Sandy Hook and Paul Vance's Conflict of Interest

Sadly the Bush family has made nepotism safe for democracy.

yes.. this curious...

but perfect to cover mistakes... or bigger...

Who told kept EMS at bay?

From what we can tell in the police, fire and EMS audio, Newtown police asked for EMS units to enter the school. Newtown EMS successfully entered the scene, briefly, and continued to request entering the scene, and according to unit A2, was "waived in" to the scene by law enforcement. It was Newtown officer who reportedly brought one child out by hand, to a Newtown EMS unit.

State police audio indicates that the scene is "inactive" about an hour into the event. Why is this point not driven home to Newtown police and dispatch?

Long after State police audio declares the scene "inactive," Newtown dispatch is still keeping EMS out of the parking lot - even though injured are still coming out.

Was this a failure of communication between CSP and local law enforcement? Did CSP realize lives could have been saved, but it was now too late, and they don't want extraneous medical professionals coming in who would have been able to tell, possibly, that the kids could have been saved if they'd been gotten to more quickly?

Many children are still missing, and presumably hiding in and near the school, possibly injured; there is every reason to stage EMS units in the parking lot, and send EMS into the school.

Was this a Connecticut State Police operation gone wrong? Isn't it ironic that the decision to allow lawsuits against the State is up to the son of the State Police spokesman?

Who told kept EMS at bay?


Here is where the truth lives.

So the magic questions is why call for EMS and make another page for MORE EMS only to not allow them in the building.

One more time. They call for EMS...EMS arrives...they do not let them in....they again call for more EMS and Ambulances....but make them stage at the firehouse.

Who made the call to not let them in? And why call for more?

Newtown police chief Kehoe would have been incident commander early on and probably making the call to hold back EMS. I believe the final call to not go in at all came from either tactical medics or paramedics, but Im not sure.

Oh. Well then why call for more when you are holding back the ones on site already?

Yes he was but once CSP arrived they have authority over a crime scene (remember CSP also took over the county sheriffs' offices statewide). It looked like Vance was on scene early, perhaps it was him or initially was another CSP officer until he arrived. Was that after the call for ambulances had been denied? Not sure. We need to find pics of Vance and let PatJack do shadow analysis to find out how early he was there.

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According to this dude they were kept outside even while everyone was still inside.

“I’m having a hard time even asking you this question,” Glenn began. “What did it feel like as a dad to know that your son was in that build, and you could not go in and grab him?”

“It was extremely hard. I’m fortunate that the fire department is a big family,” Pete replied. “One of them, the EMS captain, her mother is the secretary in the office. She’s the one who got the intercom open. And we were both together on the truck and we were consoling each other, and making sure we were able not only get in and do our jobs and but keep each supported to make sure everything was going to be all right.”



Huh the EMS captain. Not let in? Interesting. Kids still inside? huh.......They just sat and waited to find out about the kids. Weird.

"Weird" is an understatement....hmmmm

excellent point OP!!!!!!!!!

God bless those who keep working on this.
Cheers for OP.

Considering another article I read was from an EMT that was told to stand down by the Newtown EMS captain.

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During this entire dispatch they are constantly asking for EMS but EMS is never let in....why?

Newtown Area Fire & Police
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10:09:06 AM
Male: “Okay, who is the commanding officer on the scene here?

10:09:11 AM
Male: “Sergeant Kullgren will be commanding officer.”

I thought that was interesting as well. This is a good feed because it includes mostly the EMS and fire calls. They all get called to the scene. A couple times the police are demanding them to come to the school. But they are all held at bay. It's so odd. They say the shooting has stopped and building is in lockdown but they will not let them in.

Final call to not go in at all? First I've heard of that; was there such a call?

At any rate, neither tac med nor paramedics have authority to give orders to other participating agencies.

Why would they give such a call, even if they could--to preserve the crime scene? And yet in the same breath they ask Father Weiss to go in.

Sounds to me as if three to five separate agencies had three to five separate plans.

so let me understand...

1. connecticut has a really strange system.

2. the one who is in charge is the son of the state police spokeman?

Im just going on media reports so Im not sure either. The LE and EMS reports would clear it all up a lot more and I'd love to see em. There were reports that a paramedic came out and told the rest of EMS that no more would be coming out, everyone left was dead. This was probably just after a second triage of the deceased to make certain no dead was mistriaged. Youd want a second triage assessment on the dead just to confirm once you got the injured out. They did the same thing at VA Tech.

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The nepotism runs even deeper than that.

It was Karin Halstead who made the call to keep out the EMS.

You may recognize that name. I cover her and her family in Part III in my theory of what really happened.

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Lol blast from the past.

Vance Sr. speaks for the state police i.e. those who assumed 100% responsibility for investigating the crime.

Vance Jr. decides who can sue the state as a result of this crime.

I don't think "conflict of interest" quite covers it.

Old news. Its just getting to GLP and getting a pin now?

Btw cops on scene inside DID ask for EMS to be sent in. At 9:46 am, right when they breached and entered, they called for ambulances, but then shooting resumed (you can hear the shots clearly on 911calls), and officers immediately rescinded their request for rigs and said "The building is not secure the building is not secure!"

The investigation's own gunshot audio expert, Paul Ginsberg, recorded a very loud gunshot at 9:46:54 am and included it in his report. CSP Detective Alison Peters seems to have been responsible for scrubbing that shot in a "revision" of Ginsberg's analysis.

When asked about the 9:46:54 am gunshot recently by a reporter, Ginsberg said via telephone that he "signed a confidentiality agreement and can't speak without the permission of the Connecticut State Police."

Thread: All this sandy hook bs

Would it be safe to say most participants probably had to sign this confidentiality agreemment?

This is what keeps the thoughts of a coverup going.

It must be intentional.

No media in sight that will question this obvious coverup...

They're questioning it, but getting stonewalled.