'She heard everything. Shooting. Screaming. Pleading': Sandy Hook mother whose daughters survived the massacre describes girls' PTSD an

It's a warning for those that talk too much !

Would love to get her on a witness stand.

How does prohibiting law-abiding gun own owners from owning guns secure the safety of your spawn? If heaven forbid guns are removed from law-abiding citizens then what safety mechanisms are in place to remove guns from criminals and gang bangers?

Your hollow libturd appeal it is for the children is hollow and ignorant as you obviously fail to comprehend that the police re under NO obligation to protect your ignorant backside if the risk is too great to their safety.

The NRA obviously sees the grand scheme of things far better than your narrow liberal eyes and it is not bout money it is centered upon independence and rights.

Worry and stress are simply meditations on evil or sinful things. Give that effort to God instead, and He will cover you.

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An AR 15 is not a military weapon. It's no different than a shot gun basically.

Thats a bad argument because you would lose it in a debate with a well-educated gun rights infringer liberal who knows their stuff about firearms. Losing any such argiment in a debate is bad and hurts your entire viewpoint in that debate.

The only difference between the civilian AR-15 and a military M4/M16 is the military version has an additional selection for either 3 round burst on some guns or straight full-auto on others. Besides this, the two are the same. And given that in combat our military rarely uses anything other than semi-auto anyway, and instead prefers controlled semi-auto fire for almost all situations, they are the same for all practical purposes.

That is the whole point! Semi-automatic means one shot at a time. The AR 15 uses a very small caliber at that. The argument is that it is a very scary, dangerous weapon, like what would be used by military. In fact, it is not a big bad scary weapon. It's just like a shot gun. Therefore saying it should be banned because the military uses it is stupid. Who cares if the military uses as M4 or M16. The argument is that the AR 15 is not that kind of weapon.

People need to learn what semi-automatic means and what an AR 15 is.

To say its not a military weapon is a bad argument in multiple ways, and if you use that argument in a gun control deabate, any knowledgable opponent on teh gun control side will beat you on the argument youre making because Ive seen it done numerous times when people try to use that argument.


The civilian version AR-15 is the same for all practical purposes to the primary longarm the military uses.

The ONLY difference is a feature the military rarely uses. So to say its not the same is not a winnable argument on that point.

In addition to that, the second amendment DOES protect the civilian ownership of military longarms, so you are putting yourself into a box by using the argument you are. So to say its not the same is a losing argument on this point also, because you are in a way acknowledging that there is merit to the argument in the first place that military weapons in civilian are are an issue, when in fact military longarms are the protected items of the second amendment - and THAT should be your argument, not the argument the infringers use which lies on it being military or not. They are correct that it is, yet they are incorrect in not admitting that ownership is protected by the 2nd amendment.

The AR-15 is a military weapon, it was designed as a military weapon, it shares all features of the weapon our military uses except one rarely used one, and the second amendment DOES protect the civilian ownership of that weapon.




ps. and 'very small caliber'??? - its the same caliber the military uses, so that statement is odd to me.

You're missing the point, completely. Just because the military uses it doesn't make it a military weapon. They use shot guns too, which are no different than the AR15.

l out fucking l

the weapon he supposedly killed kids with is a pistol. The rifle and shotgun (semi auto anyway) were found in the car trunk after the fact he killed himself.

I hate when the media and gov. capitalizes off peoples emotion

MUH BABIES! BAN ALL GUNS!

None of the kids interviewed mentioned the intercom system turning on & them hearing the shootings. Not sure what happened?

But you can't do that, it would traumatize the children

Distinction of firearms for the general populous is scientifically impossible.

Post on!

ONLY ACKNOWLEDGES RIGHTS.

There are no sides. Just stop already.

No script. The best propaganda is done by people WHO earnestly believe what they say.

Its foreseeable that a school shooting in connecticut will produce a plethora of very well written pleas for gun control. For free. Out of genuine conviction.

whooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo
what did madame klitton say ?
we're going to have to take some things away from you for the benefit of them all ??
or some shyte LIKE THAT ?????

Allow me to jump in here. Although I understand what you are trying to say, but the above poster is making a legally correct statement for an argument.

The point is not whether the AR15 is a military style weapon, the point is that it's your right you OWN such a weapon. Therefore, by not arguing that point to them, you instead take the wind out of their sails by simply stating that this is not the point when it comes to your right to bear arms.

I think this makes for a much better argument to shut them up rather than argue about whether AR15 is a military style weapon or not.

In that context I agree. But I was responding to the mother's claim in the article that an AR15 is a military weapon and should therefore because of that be banned. She makes a false claim that many people will read and accept as fact. Many people believe this to be fact and argue against it for that reason. You're right, we should be able to own it regardless. But many people out there argue against this weapon because it's used by the military as if it's some big bad weapon because they don't understand guns.

Oh I didn't know NRA stood for National People Association

So a free society is dangerous. That is why it is called home of the Brave. If it scares you, get out. The Faithful and fearless don't want you here.

It fires 5.56 mm, which is the standard NATO military round. It is nothing like a shotgun.

While I think that quibbling over such matters is bad form when trying to debate anti-gunners, the information listed here is technically incorrect.

AR-15: Lower recievers are not mil-spec to M-16 type weapons standards (metalurgically, dimensions are a bit thinner, etc). Barrels have different twist rates. Not all AR-15 types are rated to fire the higher pressure 5.56x45 ammuntion, but use .223 instead. Most AR-15 barrels are not metalurgically equivalent, nor up to the ruggedness demaned by the milspec for M-16 variants. M-16 variants have a chromed lined chamber and barrel, not all AR-15s have that. Etc, etc, etc There's a lot more differences.

Not necessarily. Some are only rated for .223. Your post proves you don't know what you are talking about, aus-tard.

There are many civilian AR's sold in the US that have all the mil-spec features except full-auto.

To say they are not the same because some* civilian AR's do not meet mil-spec requirements is dumb.

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Exactly. One day of murders does not mean you drop the 2nd amendment. Anyone who wants to infringe on our right to bear arms is nothing short of a terrorist and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Ban matches and cigarette lighters. Make anyone who buys gasoline be required to take a safety course and register as eligible to buy flammable liquids.