COMET C2012/S1 ISON : COMA/TAIL OF OVER 64,400 KM [UPDATE]

I Agree , I still say that it is going to be more than 5 km and that some orbiting objects should be seen as its ability to keep them in orbit will drastically be reduced as it nears the sun , possibly mars

What evidence could possibly convince you that the traditional descriptions of the Sun are correct?

Likewise, what experiment could you propose that would falsify the 'Electric Sun' theory *to you?* Any you could imagine?

...JESUS UPDATE ...
..FINAL TIME STAMP REPORT..

NUCLEUS BELIEVED TO BE 5 KM...[i think a little larger]
50 TONES OF "DUST" LEAVING THE NUCLEUS PER MINUTE.
COMA OVER 30,000 KM.

.....UNKNOWN ...................

ROTATIONAL PERIOD
DIAMETER
SPECTROSCOPY [ EXCEPT FOR CO,CO2,WATER]
POSSIBLE ORBITAL OBJECTS OR "FRAGMENTATION

.....UNKNOWN......................

PLEASE FIND NEW IMAGES AND REPOST THEM. BUT ONLY WITH AN ACRMINUTE SCALE EMBEDDED

I do not understand, so I will not coment.

With whom are you speaking to?

If it is green than we might get sprayed hard with CN gases ?
Am i right ?

No, this comet will be far away from Earth. We will not pass through ISON's tail. Mars will do.

I guess to anybody .... lets lighten up a bit.. shall we

i will repost the link to MR Van Falndren s Book that goes over a sphere of orbital [significant] influence.. i was referring to that .. though ill need a secretary to find any thing in this thread.. :)

A 'comet' has a specific definition and they originate inside our own solar system. I believe this object has a similar composition to a comet though it is probably more 'dirt' than "snowball', but it does not originate from inside our solar system, is not following a trajectory indicating it does, and apparently is not behaving at all like an ordinary comet.

It is also much larger than any comet ever observed.
quote anon astrophysicist

NEAT was of similar composition i believe and it was bigger than Earth. At the time of it's nearest approach to the Sun it's coma was larger than the Sun itself, just to give you an idea of the show we can expect. When ISON gets to within the orbital distance of Mars it will be almost as if there is another Sun, IT WILL BE VISIBLE AT MID DAY AND ILLUMINATE THE EARTH AT NIGHT..

It is most likely trailing hundreds if not thousands of potentially Earth impactors with it. We have no idea at this point in time how close it will come to Earth.


end Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicst 1350433

I JUST WANTED IT LISTED HERE FOR HISTORY

OH NO ! In mr Van Flandrins [deceased] book he makes real clear that the "shrinking sphere of influence " will release orbital objects as it nears the sun!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to books.google.com] [buy here]

chapter 10 do comets have Satellites?
[read here]
[link to books.google.com]

Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets: Paradoxes Resolved, Origins Illuminated Second Edition

thanks

Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets: Paradoxes Resolved, Origins ...
By Tom Van Flanderen [SUPER ASTRONOMER]

can be read in English on line here
[link to books.google.com]


HIT THE "FRONT COVER" TAB AND GO TO the one titled " DO COMETS HAVE SATELLITES[CH 10]"

This Whole chapter is about a modern comet theory and gives models that can be observed for and even predicted!

I WILL LOOK FOR THAT MODEL..BUT NEED HELP SOMETIMES

Last Edited by RPHUNTER on 04/07/2013 01:50 PM

NASA MATH : COMET ENCKE TAIL SEPARATION EVENT BY CME !

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

I USED THE TECHNIQUE IN PROBLEM 5

I measured it and heres what I got ..
[link to www.nasa.gov]

the arc minute on the SWIFT image was 60 mm [millimeters] and [EDIT ] THE COMA WAS BETWEEN 6 AND 9 MM

so at .15 arc minute we get a maximum measured value of

174,842 [times] 0.15

to get a whopping 26226.315789473684210526315789465

or an apparent measured diameter of

9MM = 26,226 KM !

just for comparison I remeasured it so heres the other calcs...

8 mm = 23312.280701754385964912280701747 or 23,312 KM

7 MM = 20398.245614035087719298245614028 OR 20,398 KM

6 MM = 17484.21052631578947368421052631 OR 17,484 KM

A FALSE COLOR IMAGE [NO SCALE] FROM ASTROS IMAGE[ROTATIONAL FILTER]
N

THIS IS A GIMP FRACTAL FILTER IN PURPLE THAT , TO ME BLOWS UP THE COMA .. I THINK I CAN SEE A POINT IN THE CENTER OF THE COME IMAGE]

Last Edited by RPHUNTER on 04/07/2013 02:05 PM

IN the NASA IMAGE 1 MM is the equivalent of 2914 KM

SO IF THE NUCLEUS can be observed at over 4 A.U. [astronomical units] it would have allot bigger than 5 KM !!!!

Last Edited by RPHUNTER on 04/07/2013 02:56 PM

TYTY

[link to www.nasa.gov]

IN THIS IMAGE, YOU CAN MEASURE THE OBJECT AGAINST THE SCALE

[SCALE IS ONE ARC MINUTE [60 MM] OR 60 , 1 MM ,ARC SECONDS]

1 MM = 2914 KM

Last Edited by RPHUNTER on 04/07/2013 03:57 PM

Here is one of the first images of C2012/ISON IT WAS 6.722 A.U. ON SEPT 22 1012

[link to www.aerith.net]

THE SCALE IN THE IMAGE IS ONE ARC MINUTE , THE FOCUS BAR SET ARE BOTH 20 ARC SECONDS LONG....

OK I BLEW UP THE SCALE TO DO A MEASUREMENT UNTIL IT WAS ON-SCREEN WITH A 60 MM = 60 ARC-SECONDS = ONE ARC MINUTE

THEN I LOOKED HERE TO GET THE DISTANCE ON SEPT 22 1012 WHEN THE IMAGE WAS MADE.. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

IT WAS 6.722 A.U. ON SEPT 22 1012 , SO AN ARC SECOND = ?[WHAT]


ONE ARC SECOND AT = 4.037 A.U. ON JAN 30 2013 WAS 2,914 KM

SO

4.037 = 2,914
----------------------
6.722 = X

19,587.908 = 4.037 X

X= 4,852.095 KILOMETERS / PER ARC SECOND

IN THIS IMAGE THE SMALLEST[ BRIGHT CENTRAL AREA]

MEASURED 2 MM =9,704 KM ?

OVER ALL

10 MM = 48,520.951 KM FOR THE COMA ??!!??

THATS BIGGER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW

THAT WOULD MAKE ALLOT OF SPECULATION AS TO THE NUCLEUS SIZE EARLY ON, AND I READ HERE ON GLP, A RECOUNTING OF C2012/S1 FRAGMENTING .. ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS ?

Last Edited by RPHUNTER on 04/08/2013 01:28 AM

A dirty snowball with a 3 mile nucleus appears that size at 6.722 A.U?

Another comet Elenin epic fail.

You have done nothing but dismiss science because you do not understand science. All you have proven is that you don't have a grasp of how science works, what it says, and what evidence supports scientific inquiry. You suffer from Dunning-Kruger.

Not really. Neither Elenin nor ISON were billed as going to be impressive comets. It was the ones who don't understand science that made a lot of noise. No scientist said Elenin or ISON were going to be a problem with anything.

YEAH POST FACTS OR LEAVE IT. WE "DISCOUN"T ISON .. WHATS NXT?
I EAT GUYS LIKE YOU FOR BREAKFEST

quote:Anonymous Coward 1645786:MV8yMTg5MjUwXzM3MTU1MDU0X0E4RjM0MUMy]


Not really. Neither Elenin nor ISON were billed as going to be impressive comets. It was the ones who don't understand science that made a lot of noise. No scientist said Elenin or ISON were going to be a problem with anything.


Last Edited by RPHUNTER on 04/08/2013 09:35 AM

A 'comet' has a specific definition and they originate inside our own solar system. I believe this object has a similar composition to a comet though it is probably more 'dirt' than "snowball', but it does not originate from inside our solar system, is not following a trajectory indicating it does, and apparently is not behaving at all like an ordinary comet.

It is also much larger than any comet ever observed.
quote anon astrophysicist

NEAT was of similar composition i believe and it was bigger than Earth. At the time of it's nearest approach to the Sun it's coma was larger than the Sun itself, just to give you an idea of the show we can expect. When ISON gets to within the orbital distance of Mars it will be almost as if there is another Sun, IT WILL BE VISIBLE AT MID DAY AND ILLUMINATE THE EARTH AT NIGHT..

It is most likely trailing hundreds if not thousands of potentially Earth impactors with it. We have no idea at this point in time how close it will come to Earth.


end Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicst 1350433

I JUST WANTED IT LISTED HERE FOR HISTORY

OH NO ! In mr Van Flandrins [deceased] book he makes real clear that the "shrinking sphere of influence " will release orbital objects as it nears the sun!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to books.google.com] [buy here]

chapter 10 do comets have Satellites?
[read here]
[link to books.google.com]

Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets: Paradoxes Resolved, Origins Illuminated Second Edition

A 'comet' has a specific definition and they originate inside our own solar system. I believe this object has a similar composition to a comet though it is probably more 'dirt' than "snowball', but it does not originate from inside our solar system, is not following a trajectory indicating it does, and apparently is not behaving at all like an ordinary comet.

It is also much larger than any comet ever observed.
quote anon astrophysicist

NEAT was of similar composition i believe and it was bigger than Earth. At the time of it's nearest approach to the Sun it's coma was larger than the Sun itself, just to give you an idea of the show we can expect. When ISON gets to within the orbital distance of Mars it will be almost as if there is another Sun, IT WILL BE VISIBLE AT MID DAY AND ILLUMINATE THE EARTH AT NIGHT..

It is most likely trailing hundreds if not thousands of potentially Earth impactors with it. We have no idea at this point in time how close it will come to Earth.


end Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicst 1350433

I JUST WANTED IT LISTED HERE FOR HISTORY

OH NO ! In mr Van Flandrins [deceased] book he makes real clear that the "shrinking sphere of influence " will release orbital objects as it nears the sun!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to books.google.com] [buy here]

chapter 10 do comets have Satellites?
[read here]
[link to books.google.com]

Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets: Paradoxes Resolved, Origins Illuminated Second Edition