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Message Subject For all eyes to see... the so called "deep secrets" of Satan.
Poster Handle Prometheus.Locke
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Lets compare this to the case of Neo. Neo said:

I know kung-fu.
There is no spoon
Guns.. lots of guns...
Whoa.

What did Neo do?

He could learn anything really fast.
He could manipulate a fake reality.
He shot and killed huge numbers of possessed people.
He died to keep the fake reality going.

Hundreds of millions of people witnessed these things, proving once and for all that we live in a Matrix reality, that every few generations someone will be born that can change it simply by thinking, and that good always wins in the end. (Except when it doesn't.)

Neo did not believe in God, Satan, or a demiurge. Rather he knew the "Creator," the "Oracle" and the "Source." The Oracle's appearance changed a bit during his life, for reasons unknown, but one thing was resoundingly clear:

They were all working towards the same goal, whether they knew it or not.
 Quoting: Prometheus.Locke


Neo is of course a mythical being loosely based on Jesus and other Messiah figures. He also was desperately flawed being a mere human.

I'm just trying to make the point that character matters. Jesus said you will be able to detect false prophets by their fruits. What sort of things are your prophets into and what are the consequences of following him. For Jim Jones this was clear. The beatles quickly found out that the Maharishi Yoga was nothing but a sex crazed exploiter and fakir.

If we take OPs story at face value. What sort of character does this entity display? It appears to like mind control, murder betrayal and exploitation of various sorts. This is an entirely different agenda from Jesus.

Jesus' claim is that humans are in fact slaves to their bad behavior, akin to drug addiction, and that he could set you free from those negative thought patterns. More importantly being set free from sin gives you access and fellowship with the creator himself, which is a transcendent life giving process. The demiurge on the other hand, appears immoral and would be perfectly happy if you were dead (and in hell).


I conclude that they are fundamentally different entities and that you would do well to be on the side of team Jesus.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


My point was the portrayal of Jesus is also from a "book" and the first hand accounts you speak of are not only not recorded, but have been embellished (probably by this entity) for thousands of years, with numerous changes, additions, and deletions.

Further, the "character" displayed by Jesus in the Gospels is so different from the portrayal of the Father in the Torah that it's almost as if the original character was split, or had multiple personality disorder. The counterpart of course, being Satan. To me, it is somewhat illogical to believe in a story of a battle between pure good and pure evil, as we never see such a thing in the real world--rather these stories are almost always relegated to fiction. Stories aside, the truth of the matter is always much less black and white.

My goal has always been to point out that it is "team humanity" that we truly belong to, and what is best for our species in the true "good" in the world. An outside entity, of unknown veracity and power; whose main goal has been to change what we perceive as good, appears to be an enemy of our innate nature.

Human nature has progressed passed "animalistic behavior" not because of a higher power, or because of religion; but rather because of social evolution. Our global society benefits from cooperation, and this has been the driving force over thousands of years behind our ever increasing equality and liberty.
 
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