Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders | |
SeekWisdom (OP) User ID: 14695767 ![]() 04/11/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
PENG User ID: 32327206 ![]() 04/11/2013 06:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. Quoting: SeekWisdom In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries. This new information came out during hearings to investigate a revised driver licensing system, substantiating fears that gun information has been shared with federal officials. Under state law, concealed weapon permit holders are confidential. As the Tribune notes, the only place where owners’ identities are stored is in driver license records. Those with a permit also have a special mark on their licenses pinpointing this designation. State Sen. Kurt Schaefer, a Republican, has been looking into the new licenses and he is at the center of the discussion and investigation surrounding the handing over of information; the information about the highway patrol’s data sharing came out during questioning in the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee. According to Schaefer, he was told that the list was given to federal authorities by the state highway patrol. “Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” the senator explained. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.” Scharfer plans to push Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, for additional answers during a hearing being held on Thursday morning. The Tribune has more about the concealed carry permit delivery to feds: The patrol responded by confirming that it had shared the list of concealed weapons holders with federal authorities. “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes,” Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the Tribune. The only way to obtain the full list is through a special request. Only law enforcement is supposed to have access to concealed carry information and then only on an individual basis. When a law enforcement officer looks up an individual’s driving record, it shows whether they have a concealed carry endorsement. Schaefer has a plethora of questions about the data and why it was given to federal authorities. Of particular note, he’s wondering where the list ended up going once it reached the feds and how the request was granted in the first place. “I want to know who all was involved in this transaction because if this is just some phone call saying give me the list of all concealed carry holders, how did the person at the patrol who fulfilled that request know who was at the other end of the phone?,” the senator asked. “How did they know where to send it? How did they know what it was being used for?” Considering how mental illness could be playing into confiscation efforts in states like New York, this story and others like it are increasingly important to explore. [link to www.theblaze.com] I'm going to talk to my BIL about this. He's in MO and an "officer". A bit more than that. Lol. But I was telling him at Christmas about this site and the mood/opinion of the 2nd amendment issues. He was pretty pragmatic about it all, and said local LE in most places would never enforce it confiscation if directed to do so. But last month called and said he is "one of them" now. Lol. Meaning he's at the top of the confiscating firearms list if needed. (ATF). Can't wait to hear what e says about this. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
SeekWisdom (OP) User ID: 14695767 ![]() 04/11/2013 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. Quoting: SeekWisdom In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries. This new information came out during hearings to investigate a revised driver licensing system, substantiating fears that gun information has been shared with federal officials. Under state law, concealed weapon permit holders are confidential. As the Tribune notes, the only place where owners’ identities are stored is in driver license records. Those with a permit also have a special mark on their licenses pinpointing this designation. State Sen. Kurt Schaefer, a Republican, has been looking into the new licenses and he is at the center of the discussion and investigation surrounding the handing over of information; the information about the highway patrol’s data sharing came out during questioning in the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee. According to Schaefer, he was told that the list was given to federal authorities by the state highway patrol. “Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” the senator explained. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.” Scharfer plans to push Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, for additional answers during a hearing being held on Thursday morning. The Tribune has more about the concealed carry permit delivery to feds: The patrol responded by confirming that it had shared the list of concealed weapons holders with federal authorities. “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes,” Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the Tribune. The only way to obtain the full list is through a special request. Only law enforcement is supposed to have access to concealed carry information and then only on an individual basis. When a law enforcement officer looks up an individual’s driving record, it shows whether they have a concealed carry endorsement. Schaefer has a plethora of questions about the data and why it was given to federal authorities. Of particular note, he’s wondering where the list ended up going once it reached the feds and how the request was granted in the first place. “I want to know who all was involved in this transaction because if this is just some phone call saying give me the list of all concealed carry holders, how did the person at the patrol who fulfilled that request know who was at the other end of the phone?,” the senator asked. “How did they know where to send it? How did they know what it was being used for?” Considering how mental illness could be playing into confiscation efforts in states like New York, this story and others like it are increasingly important to explore. [link to www.theblaze.com] I'm going to talk to my BIL about this. He's in MO and an "officer". A bit more than that. Lol. But I was telling him at Christmas about this site and the mood/opinion of the 2nd amendment issues. He was pretty pragmatic about it all, and said local LE in most places would never enforce it confiscation if directed to do so. But last month called and said he is "one of them" now. Lol. Meaning he's at the top of the confiscating firearms list if needed. (ATF). Can't wait to hear what e says about this. Thanks peng. Keep me updated. "The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding" A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy? Albert Einstein Get over here!- Scorpion |
PENG User ID: 32327206 ![]() 04/11/2013 06:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
last one I just don't give a fuck User ID: 30498531 ![]() 04/11/2013 08:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. Quoting: SeekWisdom In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries. This new information came out during hearings to investigate a revised driver licensing system, substantiating fears that gun information has been shared with federal officials. Under state law, concealed weapon permit holders are confidential. As the Tribune notes, the only place where owners’ identities are stored is in driver license records. Those with a permit also have a special mark on their licenses pinpointing this designation. State Sen. Kurt Schaefer, a Republican, has been looking into the new licenses and he is at the center of the discussion and investigation surrounding the handing over of information; the information about the highway patrol’s data sharing came out during questioning in the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee. According to Schaefer, he was told that the list was given to federal authorities by the state highway patrol. “Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” the senator explained. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.” Scharfer plans to push Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, for additional answers during a hearing being held on Thursday morning. The Tribune has more about the concealed carry permit delivery to feds: The patrol responded by confirming that it had shared the list of concealed weapons holders with federal authorities. “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes,” Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the Tribune. The only way to obtain the full list is through a special request. Only law enforcement is supposed to have access to concealed carry information and then only on an individual basis. When a law enforcement officer looks up an individual’s driving record, it shows whether they have a concealed carry endorsement. Schaefer has a plethora of questions about the data and why it was given to federal authorities. Of particular note, he’s wondering where the list ended up going once it reached the feds and how the request was granted in the first place. “I want to know who all was involved in this transaction because if this is just some phone call saying give me the list of all concealed carry holders, how did the person at the patrol who fulfilled that request know who was at the other end of the phone?,” the senator asked. “How did they know where to send it? How did they know what it was being used for?” Considering how mental illness could be playing into confiscation efforts in states like New York, this story and others like it are increasingly important to explore. [link to www.theblaze.com] I'm going to talk to my BIL about this. He's in MO and an "officer". A bit more than that. Lol. But I was telling him at Christmas about this site and the mood/opinion of the 2nd amendment issues. He was pretty pragmatic about it all, and said local LE in most places would never enforce it confiscation if directed to do so. But last month called and said he is "one of them" now. Lol. Meaning he's at the top of the confiscating firearms list if needed. (ATF). Can't wait to hear what e says about this. Ask [link to www.mdn.org] bro-in-law if he's familiar with this bunch of crooked shit that the Mo. State Pusstrol pulled in January: If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was "we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37881965 ![]() 04/11/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
PENG User ID: 37831074 ![]() 04/11/2013 11:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. Quoting: SeekWisdom In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries. This new information came out during hearings to investigate a revised driver licensing system, substantiating fears that gun information has been shared with federal officials. Under state law, concealed weapon permit holders are confidential. As the Tribune notes, the only place where owners’ identities are stored is in driver license records. Those with a permit also have a special mark on their licenses pinpointing this designation. State Sen. Kurt Schaefer, a Republican, has been looking into the new licenses and he is at the center of the discussion and investigation surrounding the handing over of information; the information about the highway patrol’s data sharing came out during questioning in the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee. According to Schaefer, he was told that the list was given to federal authorities by the state highway patrol. “Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” the senator explained. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.” Scharfer plans to push Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, for additional answers during a hearing being held on Thursday morning. The Tribune has more about the concealed carry permit delivery to feds: The patrol responded by confirming that it had shared the list of concealed weapons holders with federal authorities. “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes,” Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the Tribune. The only way to obtain the full list is through a special request. Only law enforcement is supposed to have access to concealed carry information and then only on an individual basis. When a law enforcement officer looks up an individual’s driving record, it shows whether they have a concealed carry endorsement. Schaefer has a plethora of questions about the data and why it was given to federal authorities. Of particular note, he’s wondering where the list ended up going once it reached the feds and how the request was granted in the first place. “I want to know who all was involved in this transaction because if this is just some phone call saying give me the list of all concealed carry holders, how did the person at the patrol who fulfilled that request know who was at the other end of the phone?,” the senator asked. “How did they know where to send it? How did they know what it was being used for?” Considering how mental illness could be playing into confiscation efforts in states like New York, this story and others like it are increasingly important to explore. [link to www.theblaze.com] I'm going to talk to my BIL about this. He's in MO and an "officer". A bit more than that. Lol. But I was telling him at Christmas about this site and the mood/opinion of the 2nd amendment issues. He was pretty pragmatic about it all, and said local LE in most places would never enforce it confiscation if directed to do so. But last month called and said he is "one of them" now. Lol. Meaning he's at the top of the confiscating firearms list if needed. (ATF). Can't wait to hear what e says about this. Ask [link to www.mdn.org] bro-in-law if he's familiar with this bunch of crooked shit that the Mo. State Pusstrol pulled in January: Have another link? That one says it doesn't exist. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
last one I just don't give a fuck User ID: 30498531 ![]() 04/11/2013 11:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. Quoting: SeekWisdom In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries. This new information came out during hearings to investigate a revised driver licensing system, substantiating fears that gun information has been shared with federal officials. Under state law, concealed weapon permit holders are confidential. As the Tribune notes, the only place where owners’ identities are stored is in driver license records. Those with a permit also have a special mark on their licenses pinpointing this designation. State Sen. Kurt Schaefer, a Republican, has been looking into the new licenses and he is at the center of the discussion and investigation surrounding the handing over of information; the information about the highway patrol’s data sharing came out during questioning in the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee. According to Schaefer, he was told that the list was given to federal authorities by the state highway patrol. “Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” the senator explained. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.” Scharfer plans to push Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, for additional answers during a hearing being held on Thursday morning. The Tribune has more about the concealed carry permit delivery to feds: The patrol responded by confirming that it had shared the list of concealed weapons holders with federal authorities. “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes,” Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the Tribune. The only way to obtain the full list is through a special request. Only law enforcement is supposed to have access to concealed carry information and then only on an individual basis. When a law enforcement officer looks up an individual’s driving record, it shows whether they have a concealed carry endorsement. Schaefer has a plethora of questions about the data and why it was given to federal authorities. Of particular note, he’s wondering where the list ended up going once it reached the feds and how the request was granted in the first place. “I want to know who all was involved in this transaction because if this is just some phone call saying give me the list of all concealed carry holders, how did the person at the patrol who fulfilled that request know who was at the other end of the phone?,” the senator asked. “How did they know where to send it? How did they know what it was being used for?” Considering how mental illness could be playing into confiscation efforts in states like New York, this story and others like it are increasingly important to explore. [link to www.theblaze.com] I'm going to talk to my BIL about this. He's in MO and an "officer". A bit more than that. Lol. But I was telling him at Christmas about this site and the mood/opinion of the 2nd amendment issues. He was pretty pragmatic about it all, and said local LE in most places would never enforce it confiscation if directed to do so. But last month called and said he is "one of them" now. Lol. Meaning he's at the top of the confiscating firearms list if needed. (ATF). Can't wait to hear what e says about this. Ask [link to www.mdn.org] bro-in-law if he's familiar with this bunch of crooked shit that the Mo. State Pusstrol pulled in January: Have another link? That one says it doesn't exist. [link to midwestdemocracy.com] If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was "we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister |
SeekWisdom (OP) User ID: 14695767 ![]() 04/12/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. Quoting: SeekWisdom In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries. This new information came out during hearings to investigate a revised driver licensing system, substantiating fears that gun information has been shared with federal officials. Under state law, concealed weapon permit holders are confidential. As the Tribune notes, the only place where owners’ identities are stored is in driver license records. Those with a permit also have a special mark on their licenses pinpointing this designation. State Sen. Kurt Schaefer, a Republican, has been looking into the new licenses and he is at the center of the discussion and investigation surrounding the handing over of information; the information about the highway patrol’s data sharing came out during questioning in the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee. According to Schaefer, he was told that the list was given to federal authorities by the state highway patrol. “Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” the senator explained. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.” Scharfer plans to push Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, for additional answers during a hearing being held on Thursday morning. The Tribune has more about the concealed carry permit delivery to feds: The patrol responded by confirming that it had shared the list of concealed weapons holders with federal authorities. “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes,” Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the Tribune. The only way to obtain the full list is through a special request. Only law enforcement is supposed to have access to concealed carry information and then only on an individual basis. When a law enforcement officer looks up an individual’s driving record, it shows whether they have a concealed carry endorsement. Schaefer has a plethora of questions about the data and why it was given to federal authorities. Of particular note, he’s wondering where the list ended up going once it reached the feds and how the request was granted in the first place. “I want to know who all was involved in this transaction because if this is just some phone call saying give me the list of all concealed carry holders, how did the person at the patrol who fulfilled that request know who was at the other end of the phone?,” the senator asked. “How did they know where to send it? How did they know what it was being used for?” Considering how mental illness could be playing into confiscation efforts in states like New York, this story and others like it are increasingly important to explore. [link to www.theblaze.com] ![]() "The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding" A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy? Albert Einstein Get over here!- Scorpion |
SeekWisdom (OP) User ID: 14695767 ![]() 04/18/2013 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders Hear anything Peng? "The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding" A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy? Albert Einstein Get over here!- Scorpion |
PENG User ID: 1159762 ![]() 04/18/2013 10:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
PENG User ID: 1159762 ![]() 05/02/2013 08:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Investigation Reveals: Mo. Highway Patrol Gave Feds Confidential List of Concealed Carry Gun Permit Holders [link to m.columbiatribune.com] It's on a web app and I can't copy/paste. Interesting though! Do you think he is telling the truth in testimony? About disc garbled, then second unreadable, then thought better of retrieving the data after discussing with superiors? That was on his fourth attempt to retrieve. Hmmmm. Last Edited by PENG on 05/02/2013 08:46 AM "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
PENG User ID: 1159762 ![]() 05/02/2013 08:52 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |