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Extraterrestrial Music From Other Galaxies - How Could It Sound And Be Engineered?

 
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Extraterrestrial Music From Other Galaxies - How Could It Sound And Be Engineered?
A philosophical question, but serious. If on earth exists music, so it must exist also on other planets if civilisations have a certain evolution behind them. Music can be primitive, think about simple african drum sounds, or it can be advanced technology, think about synthesizers and MAX/MSP beat & gliitch patches of mathematical rendered algorithms. Also I find the question interesting, how a much more advanced race from another galaxy, could do audio engineering and what they would use.

We on earth use soundcards or audio interfaces with a maximum of 32 bit internal audio resolution but mostly 24 bit are the maximum for most pro gear you can buy on earth and we use software plugins or hardware gear like grooveboxes, drumcomputers and synthesizers or instruments like piano or guitars or whatever. We also can use noises of all kind of things and record it and make beats out of brething air if we cut it the right way and arrange it the right way.

But thats more for advanced producing technics and not meant for most artists to understand. But whats interesting, is the question how a race would produce music thats 15 million years ahead of us. I think its also a factor, how they hear and how their brains work. Probably they have 3 or 4 brains with a IQ around 7.000+.

So they could create better headphones and faster computers and better sounding soundcards and audio interfaces. but if they work in higher resolutions, say 1 mhz instead of our 96 khz if you do mastering, and with 4.096 bit audio resolution instead of our 24 or 32 bit audio resolution, their music will probably sound much louder for sure.

And thats the only thing I can say about advanced extraterrestrial music produced in another galaxies, it will sound a lot louder like we can go without distortions, so the signal to noise ratio will be better. But maybe they hear better and prefer it very silent. This also could be.

Its a to complex question how music from other galaxies could sound, but I think its worth a topic, from my point of view thats the only topic, thats about this question on internet. I would like to study your ideas about this philosophical question.

Example, the greys (aliens) will probably not like to listen to new kids on the block because they have no emotions ( i mean the greys) and if the greys would like new kids on the block music, probably just because its containing some sonical codes or codec of renderings of certain transiental flux or vortex energies that are between oscillating frequencies, shaping certain factors of formants and resonants.

Complex subject, not easy to explain so people with no idea about it can understand. Audio engineering is a highly complex subject, very mathematical and about a lot of ultra complex physics.

So how the music could sound? How the music could be made? What gear? What soundcard features do have soundcards from highly advanced aliens from other galaxies? Hope my questions don´t go beyond the serious capacities of the people here.

I mean at the end its a metaphysical question, but aren´t Immanuel Kant and Friedrich Nietzsche a genius, because they made the metaphysical ............so important for the academical world of science?
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No reaction to something that important and interesting? I wonder why there are thousands of topics about one and the same subject and everyone is posting there, but the interesting stuff nobody wants to pay attention. I start to see the mind of mankind and its like an empty ocean without any deepness. Well if you all are like that, you should post your "Criminal Muslim Propaganda Hate" topics and your unfriendly "Police State Is Violent" topics, but ask yourself why this planet is like that. Its because humans do not talk about things before they happen. Humans talk about things when its already happening and to late. Actually the police does a god job and I have a few friends that work for the police. I like the job of the police and I think you all here should show some respect.
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Music from aliens would sound nothing like human music. Just listen to a cricket's chirp or a cat's mrawing.
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lots of reed. instruments
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Very interesting. I would think that such a race or species would probably not have to actually perform music on an instrument. Maybe just by thought somehow. I would think that they would be disgusted with the way our music has devolved from Mozart to lil wayne... Possibly would enjoy the rhythm and tones of Tool?
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But if they did use instruments...what the hell would they be like?
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my mind is blown thinking about this
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Maybe they have some device that could record and play back the music I hear in my dreams. Why isn't there anything on earth that could record our dreams. Movies and music would take giant leaps forward.
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Rofl Reminds me;

Disaster Area, a plutonium rock band from the Gagrakacka Mind Zones, are generally regarded as not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but also as being the loudest noise of any kind at all. Regular concert goers judge that the best sound balance is usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some thirty-seven miles away from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves play their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stays in orbit around the planet - or more frequently around a completely different planet.

Their songs are on the whole very simple and mostly follow the familiar theme of boy-being meets girl-being beneath silvery moon, which then explodes for no adequately explored reason.

Many worlds have now banned their act altogether, sometimes for artistic reasons, but most commonly because the band's public address system contravenes local strategic arms limitations treaties.

This has not, however, stopped their earnings from pushing back the boundaries of hypermathematics, and their chief research accountant has recently been appointed Professor of Neomathematics at the University of Maximegalon, in recognition of both his General and his Special Theories of Disaster Area Tax Returns, in which he proves that the whole fabric of the space-time continuum is not merely curved, it is in fact totally bent.

Disaster Area are fronted by Hotblack Desiato.

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And i loved the Germans;



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Yes, that probably realistic, that they could or would record dreams of beings that exist in other galaxies and transform these recorded dreams into music. We on earth also can do something that goes a little bit into this direction, we can transform pictures into tones and sounds, but the results will just sound like liquid metalic melodic reverbs.

Its interesting, but lucid dreaming would be in our case a bit similar to what they could do if they would go that way. Intel created computers many years ago that can read the humans mind by scanning trough ultra magnetic resonant concepts the activity of the neurons in certain areas of the brain and because the computer has already the library of the human thoughts associated it can create the conjunction between scanning the brain and finding the exactly thought.

So if alien beings have this concept in a far more advanced way, they could just scan their mind and the music would be already finished composed im seconds without the need to work with filters and sound effects, because it sounds already like they had it in their imagination.
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A philosophical question, but serious. If on earth exists music, so it must exist also on other planets if civilisations have a certain evolution behind them. Music can be primitive, think about simple african drum sounds, or it can be advanced technology, think about synthesizers and MAX/MSP beat & gliitch patches of mathematical rendered algorithms. Also I find the question interesting, how a much more advanced race from another galaxy, could do audio engineering and what they would use.

We on earth use soundcards or audio interfaces with a maximum of 32 bit internal audio resolution but mostly 24 bit are the maximum for most pro gear you can buy on earth and we use software plugins or hardware gear like grooveboxes, drumcomputers and synthesizers or instruments like piano or guitars or whatever. We also can use noises of all kind of things and record it and make beats out of brething air if we cut it the right way and arrange it the right way.

But thats more for advanced producing technics and not meant for most artists to understand. But whats interesting, is the question how a race would produce music thats 15 million years ahead of us. I think its also a factor, how they hear and how their brains work. Probably they have 3 or 4 brains with a IQ around 7.000+.

So they could create better headphones and faster computers and better sounding soundcards and audio interfaces. but if they work in higher resolutions, say 1 mhz instead of our 96 khz if you do mastering, and with 4.096 bit audio resolution instead of our 24 or 32 bit audio resolution, their music will probably sound much louder for sure.

And thats the only thing I can say about advanced extraterrestrial music produced in another galaxies, it will sound a lot louder like we can go without distortions, so the signal to noise ratio will be better. But maybe they hear better and prefer it very silent. This also could be.

Its a to complex question how music from other galaxies could sound, but I think its worth a topic, from my point of view thats the only topic, thats about this question on internet. I would like to study your ideas about this philosophical question.

Example, the greys (aliens) will probably not like to listen to new kids on the block because they have no emotions ( i mean the greys) and if the greys would like new kids on the block music, probably just because its containing some sonical codes or codec of renderings of certain transiental flux or vortex energies that are between oscillating frequencies, shaping certain factors of formants and resonants.

Complex subject, not easy to explain so people with no idea about it can understand. Audio engineering is a highly complex subject, very mathematical and about a lot of ultra complex physics.

So how the music could sound? How the music could be made? What gear? What soundcard features do have soundcards from highly advanced aliens from other galaxies? Hope my questions don´t go beyond the serious capacities of the people here.

I mean at the end its a metaphysical question, but aren´t Immanuel Kant and Friedrich Nietzsche a genius, because they made the metaphysical ............so important for the academical world of science?
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Interesting question! I'm an experimental electronic musician myself also dipping into the baroque/classical era.

What if we went beyond scales? What if we wrote music using the sounds of the planets? I mean to say what if I used the sounds of Jupiter and manipulated that to mingle with the sounds of the Orion nebula?

What if our creativity is only bound by our imaginations in higher dimensions and we communicate with music rather than speech?

I hope in my next incarnation my thoughts turn to music instantaneously. :D
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nice ideas
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OP interesting question in general, but this is incorrect:


So they could create better headphones and faster computers and better sounding soundcards and audio interfaces. but if they work in higher resolutions, say 1 mhz instead of our 96 khz if you do mastering, and with 4.096 bit audio resolution instead of our 24 or 32 bit audio resolution, their music will probably sound much louder for sure.
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Frequency- and bit resolution has nothing to do with "louder". The loudness of a signal would be determined by the amplitude of the (sound-)wave, not its frequency range or how finely grained (=bitrate rsolution) the waveform is.
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Interesting thought.

From my experiences traveling in spirit i have noticed most music in other dimensions are kind of a constant frequency which provides a certain feeling. say 3 instruments hitting a 1 note of a cord separately but at the same time making a constant firing of chords.
Of coarse TRUE, talented musicians can do that here but the level of technicality is on a different bar.

That's one aspect.

The other.

who bloody knows!

I have noticed that for me personally the more closer we get to this shift the more depth my creations have come.

Music forever changes, look at live band era to the electronic scene now.... I think trying to comprehend what an advanced race would have would be unimaginable!
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I like someone else thinks it's possible,thought I was only one.i do EVP,lots,and talk to a voice.occasionally someone else will just turn up,say short sentence and go again.but twice,over many years I got what I could only call an odd musical sound,like an instalment I can't quite get.its still on my tape as I allways kept the clear or odd ones.
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Sound would be expressed in a higher vibration with the ability to transmit a melodic or harmonic phrase either mentally or have it resonate from any materiial. It wouldn't be really need a medium to be captured or stored upon.

Instruments actually would'nt be essential. It would be totally within the vibrational content of the beings.
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Think about this: Western classical style music is the best sounding and most complex/evolved form of music on earth. More primitive music from other regions usually sounds like shit in comparison. This is not subjective, it's fact.

There are probably whole planets with nothing but shit-sounding ass music on them, and a few with far more advanced and beautiful music than anything we have.
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I read somewhere that the Plejarens, or whoever, create music by compossing using the cosmic background noises of astrologic objects and phenomena. So, they probably take solar flares as ground melody and mix in some meteor-tails, and a planetary sand-storm, and so on.
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ET's like music, but since they are telepathic, the music is not only sound, but it also puts images in their head, more like a movie than just listening to a song.
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Sound being frequency, then it opens up the imagination to understanding and playing with absolutely any idea of what can be done with it.
Eyes see 1 octave of light , ears hear 12 octaves of sound.( human beings)

Other beings would have an alternative relationship with sound.
But they would still need to dance!
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Sound being frequency, then it opens up the imagination to understanding and playing with absolutely any idea of what can be done with it.
Eyes see 1 octave of light , ears hear 12 octaves of sound.( human beings)

Other beings would have an alternative relationship with sound.
But they would still need to dance!
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Re: Extraterrestrial Music From Other Galaxies - How Could It Sound And Be Engineered?
perhaps 'music' would be a trivial novelty to 'them'; a passing notion perceived by 'them' as a tool us lowly commoners/humans cherish for its 'entertainment' value/purposes..

if in fact, they do enjoy waveform modulation, the 'engineering' aspect, and all things pertaining to.. hmm, would it be with the use of woodwinds, strings and brass? or would it sound something like THIS?

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Info related to spacecraft suggests that the technology is interwined with the beings life force or brain which enables the craft to take commands.

Any kind of audio engineering could be like this too.
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OP interesting question in general, but this is incorrect:


So they could create better headphones and faster computers and better sounding soundcards and audio interfaces. but if they work in higher resolutions, say 1 mhz instead of our 96 khz if you do mastering, and with 4.096 bit audio resolution instead of our 24 or 32 bit audio resolution, their music will probably sound much louder for sure.
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Frequency- and bit resolution has nothing to do with "louder". The loudness of a signal would be determined by the amplitude of the (sound-)wave, not its frequency range or how finely grained (=bitrate rsolution) the waveform is.
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I am audio engineer at master degree and its a fact that a higher resolution has more "steps" and "additional microscale levels" that will fill up more with vortex and flux energies that humans receive as effects of loudness and increased amplitude. The more resolution, the louder it can get, but it will not get louder, without processing it the right way. Just making it louder will not make a difference. You need to use higher class converters and cut out certain frequencies and configurate a certain stereo centering and a lot more. Its complex and more science than music production.





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