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smokahontas (OP) User ID: 23237790 United States 04/18/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys will just about beleive in anything.Obviousaly something blew up to the left of the screen then traveled by what it appears to be a gas line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38395255 Missle! Missle! Missle! Missle! Missle! Missile, missile, missile, missile. missile. NOT! I might think it was a MISSILE also if I had a lower IQ. Fuck off shill, you are ineffective here. Your bullshit doesnt work "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
saved User ID: 37888172 United States 04/18/2013 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had my doubts, all day. Now I have no doubt... Only question now is who shot it! Quoting: smokahontas Only 2 suspects available. Our own government? Or the terrorist. Weve been giving missles to alquida to fight assad in syria. WIde open border? hmmmm Or just another out and out false flag just like the pentagone.... no pun intended But there is one thing that is no doubt! That was a heat seeking missle no question!!! Come And Take It! |
Abi ~ User ID: 25045778 United States 04/18/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only munitions that scream like that before striking are subsonic, most US munitions are hypersonic. Quoting: DreamsOfAsteroids This being said most subsonic munitions are short range. Think AGM, Hellfire, Patriot GEM-C, hell even a javelin. That is if the audio is perfectly in sync and the fertilizer itself left the crater. ETA: Then we have the angle of projectile, it's low, like really for something that is point to point, like a javelin or TOW. Thank you! Ya, so we are being played, as usual... because, if I understand you correctly, DreamsOfAsteroids, you are saying it would have had to have been SHORT range..meaning from our own backyard, so to speak??? When are they going to tell us who they are blaming this one on?? Nothing like war to balance the budget, eh?? :( You accept the love you think you deserve~~~ Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~ Truth has no temperature~~~ Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~ Have no regrets~~~ |
El_Duderino User ID: 38042695 United Kingdom 04/18/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was/is a 'God' he would be uncircumcised....... Wouldn't have done it himself now would he ;) We are not children of celestial fuckin' light, walkin' arm-in-arm into the Age of Aquarius. We are wankers who wreck the planet an' piss on each other, 'til half the world's starvin' an' the other half's busy findin' new ways to keep from noticin' it. That's the fuckin' limit've our potential, believe me. :jcbanner: |
saved User ID: 37888172 United States 04/18/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys will just about beleive in anything.Obviousaly something blew up to the left of the screen then traveled by what it appears to be a gas line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38395255 Missle! Missle! Missle! Missle! Missle! Missile, missile, missile, missile. missile. NOT! I might think it was a MISSILE also if I had a lower IQ. Fuck off shill, you are ineffective here. Your bullshit doesnt work 5 STARS for the truth OP! Come And Take It! |
smokahontas (OP) User ID: 23237790 United States 04/18/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had my doubts, all day. Now I have no doubt... Only question now is who shot it! Quoting: smokahontas Only 2 suspects available. Our own government? Or the terrorist. Weve been giving missles to alquida to fight assad in syria. WIde open border? hmmmm Or just another out and out false flag just like the pentagone.... no pun intended But there is one thing that is no doubt! That was a heat seeking missle no question!!! I considered a heat seeking missle as well which would explain the initial fire and the firemen calling for "lots of ambulances, a bomb went off" "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33376707 United States 04/18/2013 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only munitions that scream like that before striking are subsonic, most US munitions are hypersonic. Quoting: DreamsOfAsteroids This being said most subsonic munitions are short range. Think AGM, Hellfire, Patriot GEM-C, hell even a javelin. That is if the audio is perfectly in sync and the fertilizer itself left the crater. ETA: Then we have the angle of projectile, it's low, like really for something that is point to point, like a javelin or TOW. Thank you! No sweat. I went into a lot more detail in other threads and someone else pointed the AGM out to me, but if it is an AGM it's delayed fuse. Also most missiles bombs and rockets blow up quite a bit before the actual target for maximum blast effect. |
ceawaves User ID: 20832710 Germany 04/18/2013 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it looks like a missile, travels like a missile, explodes like a missile.. Then no question about it.. had to be a duck~ Don't mean to make lite of it.. but don't know what else to do at this point. All this that's going on is to big, to much, for people to believe.. even if they see it they won't believe it..even if they know it, they won't believe it.. Last Edited by ceawaves on 04/18/2013 09:52 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3673683 Australia 04/18/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I remember where the video I saw earlier today was - it seemed like a guy and his wife driving to the scene of the apt. complex and seeing the devastation. As I recall, someone mentions to them they were fairly sure it was a plane that crashed into the plant - but I can see, especially when you are not expecting it or watching for it, a plane and a missile being easily confused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15791731 [liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com] Pause on these kids faces, neither of them are crying despite the audio. |
smokahontas (OP) User ID: 23237790 United States 04/18/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it looks like a missile, travels like a missile, explodes like a missile.. Quoting: ceawaves Then no question about it.. had to be a duck~ Don't mean to make lite of it.. but don't know what else to do at this point. All this that's going on is to big, to much, for people to believe.. even if they see itm they won't believe it..even if they know it, they won't believe it.. sooo true thats why the jews didnt flee Germany, can't happen to me , not here. The idea of exceptionalism. "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30699297 United States 04/18/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had my doubts, all day. Now I have no doubt... Only question now is who shot it! Quoting: smokahontas Only 2 suspects available. Our own government? Or the terrorist. Weve been giving missles to alquida to fight assad in syria. WIde open border? hmmmm Or just another out and out false flag just like the pentagone.... no pun intended But there is one thing that is no doubt! That was a heat seeking missle no question!!! that's true, Texas aint far from Mexico, but if it was a missile It looks a heck of a lot like a TOW (explosion wise). Just from what Ive seen in combat footage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36001255 New Zealand 04/18/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I remember where the video I saw earlier today was - it seemed like a guy and his wife driving to the scene of the apt. complex and seeing the devastation. As I recall, someone mentions to them they were fairly sure it was a plane that crashed into the plant - but I can see, especially when you are not expecting it or watching for it, a plane and a missile being easily confused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15791731 do you know how to check you internet history? go back an check ! we need to see this ! |
Relayer User ID: 37580724 United Kingdom 04/18/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the beginning of this about drones , dont know wether it helpful for you or not, it is interesting and quite informative , surprised it hasn't had more views [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by Relayer on 04/18/2013 09:54 PM The more I know, the more I know I don't know. _R~ |
saved User ID: 37888172 United States 04/18/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only munitions that scream like that before striking are subsonic, most US munitions are hypersonic. Quoting: DreamsOfAsteroids This being said most subsonic munitions are short range. Think AGM, Hellfire, Patriot GEM-C, hell even a javelin. That is if the audio is perfectly in sync and the fertilizer itself left the crater. ETA: Then we have the angle of projectile, it's low, like really for something that is point to point, like a javelin or TOW. Thank you! Ya, so we are being played, as usual... because, if I understand you correctly, DreamsOfAsteroids, you are saying it would have had to have been SHORT range..meaning from our own backyard, so to speak??? When are they going to tell us who they are blaming this one on?? Nothing like war to balance the budget, eh?? :( NIce! Well lets all think back to the legislation they passed to declare the united states a battleground!? Remember that? WOnder why that is? I dont. Come And Take It! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2430574 United States 04/18/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds just like this: [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1494911 United States 04/18/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it looks like a missile, travels like a missile, explodes like a missile.. Quoting: ceawaves Then no question about it.. had to be a duck~ Don't mean to make lite of it.. but don't know what else to do at this point. All this that's going on is to big, to much, for people to believe.. even if they see it they won't believe it..even if they know it, they won't believe it.. Isn't that the truth |
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El_Duderino User ID: 38042695 United Kingdom 04/18/2013 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :Dudeffs: We are not children of celestial fuckin' light, walkin' arm-in-arm into the Age of Aquarius. We are wankers who wreck the planet an' piss on each other, 'til half the world's starvin' an' the other half's busy findin' new ways to keep from noticin' it. That's the fuckin' limit've our potential, believe me. :jcbanner: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7292290 United States 04/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I remember where the video I saw earlier today was - it seemed like a guy and his wife driving to the scene of the apt. complex and seeing the devastation. As I recall, someone mentions to them they were fairly sure it was a plane that crashed into the plant - but I can see, especially when you are not expecting it or watching for it, a plane and a missile being easily confused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15791731 do you know how to check you internet history? go back an check ! we need to see this ! thoses people where stupid thats why... they also said meth lab... WTF tards |
smokahontas (OP) User ID: 23237790 United States 04/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely we would know by now if it were a nuke, cant hide radiation "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
Ailithe User ID: 34440031 United States 04/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called a pressure relief valve sweety. When pressure builds up from the Anhydrous Ammonia (which is a liquid contained in a highly pressurized tank) the vapor created by it in the tank will release itself through the pressure relief valve releasing it into the air. As the fire continues to burn near the tank the liquid turns to vapor in the tank causing more and more to leak out via the pressure relief valve (which is there so the tank doesn't go boom in normal operating conditions). Mind you the fire was burning for quite some time before the explosion occurred. Anhydrous Ammonia should not have water any where near it. It was in the evening storm fronts are moving in from the west, humidity in the air (which is moisture) made the vapor being released more volatile. A piece of flying debris on fire could have flew up in the air where the vapor was hanging and what you see in the video is what happened. It ignited off to the left in the cloud of smoke/vapor followed it down to the source and boom. There are videos on the net showing how you can light a candle you just blew out by putting the flame near the smoke trail coming from the freshly blown out candle. To help you better understand how it works. There is also some videos on Bleve's as well. The sound you hear is the pressure being released from the tank from all the build of vapor be it through the pressure relief valve or a breach in the tank happening. It's hard to explain without drawing pictures but hopefully this will clear up that there is NO missile. The original video of the guy in the truck with his little girl was edited 1) because it was sideways initially 2) the sound was modified because it was extremely loud (I saw it when it was first released.) You guys will just about beleive in anything.Obviousaly something blew up to the left of the screen then traveled by what it appears to be a gas line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38395255 Do you realize the amount of permits and safety codes would be in place for an infrastructure holding fertilizer and possible risk of explosive or hazardous material? 1) Gas lines wouldn't be just wiggling or floating loosely about from a fire (started in the office/storage area first) 2) This place would be up to code for fire safety Quit shilling |
Abi ~ User ID: 25045778 United States 04/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I remember where the video I saw earlier today was - it seemed like a guy and his wife driving to the scene of the apt. complex and seeing the devastation. As I recall, someone mentions to them they were fairly sure it was a plane that crashed into the plant - but I can see, especially when you are not expecting it or watching for it, a plane and a missile being easily confused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15791731 do you know how to check you internet history? go back an check ! we need to see this ! I saw that one, too...went thru tons of vids and I saw the one you were talking about..I will try and find again..I clear all history, so that will not help me, but, I will look for it, too...:) You accept the love you think you deserve~~~ Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~ Truth has no temperature~~~ Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~ Have no regrets~~~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33376707 United States 04/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only munitions that scream like that before striking are subsonic, most US munitions are hypersonic. Quoting: DreamsOfAsteroids This being said most subsonic munitions are short range. Think AGM, Hellfire, Patriot GEM-C, hell even a javelin. That is if the audio is perfectly in sync and the fertilizer itself left the crater. ETA: Then we have the angle of projectile, it's low, like really for something that is point to point, like a javelin or TOW. Thank you! Ya, so we are being played, as usual... because, if I understand you correctly, DreamsOfAsteroids, you are saying it would have had to have been SHORT range..meaning from our own backyard, so to speak??? When are they going to tell us who they are blaming this one on?? Nothing like war to balance the budget, eh?? :( If it was munitions, yes short range. But I've heard a couple oilfields hiss before ignition before, hence the audio sync comment. Could have been a terrorist or foreign SF style group with foreign munitions. A lot of foreign countries use conventional missiles still. Iran's "new" sizziler for example is just a 70s Russian missile with better fuel. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29667147 United States 04/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is some basic info on ammonium nitrate explosions from wikipedia: [link to en.wikipedia.org] There are two major classes of incidents resulting in explosions: In the first case, the explosion happens by the mechanism of shock to detonation transition. The initiation happens by an explosive charge going off in the mass, by the detonation of a shell thrown into the mass, or by detonation of an explosive mixture in contact with the mass. In the second case, the explosion results from a fire that spreads into the ammonium nitrate (AN) itself (Texas City, Brest), or to a mixture of an ammonium nitrate with a combustible material during the fire. The fire must be confined at least to a degree for successful transition from a fire to an explosion (a phenomenon known as "deflagration to detonation transition", or DDT). Pure, compact AN is stable and very difficult to initiate. However, there are numerous cases when even impure AN did not explode in a fire. Now, I think we would all agree that the West, TX explosion appeared to be initiated by the streak of light which comes from the left side of video. That streak of light was either: 1. Ignition of ammonia gas that was being produced by the decomposition of the burning ammonium nitrate OR 2. Ignition of ammonia gas that was being produced further away from the flames (perhaps from storage tanks of ammonia gas or ammonium nitrate that were heated enough to release the gas) Ammonium nitrate decomposes at 200 oC so there is definitely a possibility that tanks situated some distance away from the fire were pumping ammonia into the air. OR 3. Explosive impact from a projectile Here is what bothers me about the first two scenarios. The ignition occurs way off to the left and propagates toward the flame. If ammonia gas was present within it explosion limits all the way from the left side of the screen to the fire, the combustion would begin as soon as the gas reached the fire which would serve as the ignition source. Ammonia gas does not auto-ignite until it reaches about 680 C which is glowing red heat! It simply doesn't make sense that the ignition would begin so far away and propagate toward the flame. It is a very strange explosion IMO, although I must admit I am not an expert on these things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8218651 Australia 04/18/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What possible motive could they have for doing this? All you people seem to do is claim a conspiracy without any reasoning. Come up with an ACTUAL theory first. You have nothing, not one shred of evidence. You all just mindlessly bleat and scratch around trying to pull something out of nothing, and in the process all you do is dishonor those who have suffered. |
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