"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (1775) Benjamin Franklin

"they who give up a little pussy to obtain free plumbing services, deserve neither loneliness nor clogged toilets and should call me when my wife is not home"

flaccidnator (2013)

at least, now you in the US know what it maybe was like a good 70years ago in Germany,

what most of you call us collaborateurs for, that we did nothing against it.

so let me ask:

who is stopping those police and swat teams from searching your homes?
who is stopping them from getting people out of their houses, pointing guns to them?

no one.

you are sooooooooooooo right!

What goes around comes around.

This is the judgement against the Nations, and those who remain apart of them will suffer by them.

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Americans love death and destruction, thus they will get their fill of it.

That had awesome all over it...

Yes. Bostonians are tolerant of bad bad things. They do as they are told, no matter how obvious the lies are. The sodium fluoride Nazi-style has done its job.

Pussies. Bostonians are pussies. Poor children though.

Thread: And while we watch martial law in Boston, CISPA PASSES 4/19/13

Perhaps the reports of "almost continual gunfire and explosions" implies some resistance?

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the worlds great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."

~Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle Of Democracy (1770)

Actually some people did try to stop hitler. The White Rose is a good example.

As to your question, no one is stopping them. They aren't being stopped. Now.

nice

Government is the problem. It exist to enslave and brainwash the populace.

I promise, I would not let them in, I would tell them to get a fucking warrant. I would not put up with that shit. I have been in law enforcement and a SWAT member and I know what they can and cannot do. I would not let that stand. I wouldn't start a shootout or any stupid shit over what is going on, unless they tried to force their way in, but otherwise I would simply not allow them in. Period. My kids are not staring down a swat team without just fuckin cause. I get that they are looking for someone, you are more than welcome to talk to me, but you are not coming in. I would even step outside and talk with them, but they would not come in.

as a proud gun toting american, i see your point. we are a disgrace to the founders and the principles our nation was founded on.

I would hope not, because if they are starting shooting at people whom do not want their homes searched against the Constitution, then they are worse than the terrorist that they are supposedly looking for.

Yes, I do agree. Things should not have been allowed to get this far in the first place.

In a real country of real men, the public itself would tolerate no delay in finding a subversive and would be in the streets and alleys themselves searching the culprit out themselves in righteous indignation.
What they have instead become is just another suspect to be interrigated at gunpoint, restricted to quarters while others waste their money on this indulgent goatfuck.

People have turned this into a nation of cowards!

I would even step outside and talk with them, but they would not come in

If you went outside to "talk" to them they'd take you down, tough guy.

Uhm... wow. That's the very reflection of the society we are living and experiencing now. That's some serious insight right there.

So if democracy is doomed to fail, then what should we be trying to create instead?

Talk about living in fear.
I can't believe they shut down Boston for such an idiotic reason.

I really wonder if the average American thinks that is ok.

Uhhh... How about a constitutional Representative Republic?

Now THAT'S a novel idea... eh?

He had a great mind, nice quote, today's events makes me feel sick.

This^^^ is what's happening currently in America. On the news right now people are clapping and cheering for what? Their freedoms were suspended and their homes were illegally searched. So what, they caught some kid, but they also showed full force what they can and will do at the cost of "National Security." Communist America at its finest. We have all bent over and let the long dick of the government fuck us right up the ass. God Bless Amerika the land of the illusionment that you're free.

Never have I been more ashamed of my fellow citizens. Bunch of fucking idiots.

Well it's better than what all the morans think we have, a "democracy" where 51 % can vote away the rights of the 49%.

Of course the very notion that any individual can "represent" any other individual let alone hundreds of thousands or millions is absurd on the face of it.

Government is the solution to all the problems and if some one doesn't think so then they are a racist, homophobic gun nut.

After all big government has worked so well what with all the guarding of liberty and fiscal responsibility they engage in.

There's only one solution.

very well said.

Well, as an average american, and a Boston one at that, it does and doesn't sit well with me.

First of all: the guys were found to have multiple bombs and guns on them. So every tiny limp dicked Chuck Norris Rambo wanna-be on here that says they would go and hunt them down in the street.....no you wouldn't, pussy, you would sit on your couch in the basement caressing your assault rifle and pray they don't bust into your house to kill you. The cops were taking a huge risk,(know as their hired and paid duty) and go out there to find these sick fuckers. One of which had chucked bombs at them while in pursuit.

Second: in a way, I am proud that we were able to step aside and allow those that are actually trying to protect us to do their jobs, and find these guys as fast as they could before more were hurt or injured.

Third: in another way, I really wish it were voluntary. Meaning, YOU could offer to have them search your home and property. But to have them go door to door, and basically intimidate you into doing it smacks more of Marshall Law than anything I have seen so far. There is no over sight, no accountability and no assurance that what was seen was forgotten.

I am playing both sides of the fence, and I think a lot of Americans are in this position, because it isn't a simple scenario and subject. The PEOPLE need to be the judge and determine what, and to what degree, their liberties by law are defended and upheld. Some think it's another step in America becoming a socialist republic. Some see it as a way for us to do what ever is needed to ensure that we aren't attacked, or shot, or bombed, or terrorized. However you do have to wonder if there is any threshold that a country should suspend it's own Constitution in the event of unforeseen challenges.

In case anyone cares, it's called "exigent circumstances" when police can search or stop anyone...been around forever. Tough to argue and sue in this situation I think.