BREAKING: Dzhokar Tsarnaev charged with use of WMD resulting in death | |
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Silent86 User ID: 33684112 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Here is the written complaint, looks like hes going to have an actual trial. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30605037 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh I forgot the US has different definitions for the military and civilians.... A firework gone wrong could be considered a WMD in the US. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34796448 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh I forgot the US has different definitions for the military and civilians.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30605037 A firework gone wrong could be considered a WMD in the US. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Anymore a bad fart could be considered a WMD it seems. Chili cookoffs everywhere suspect. Before you know it, Beano will be a required daily supplement... The announcement he's going to be tried in civilian court has me scratching my head. It's a good sign I think, but with this bunch of yahoo's a good sign is usually laced with something more sinister... |
Silent86 User ID: 33684112 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking through the affidavit of the FBI agent, they have all sorts-o-videos showing these two walking, placing the bombs, and walking away, within a 10 minute period, apparently the second placement he walked away within 10 seconds. Boy, I would LOVE to see those videos. Why is it that we can see a body of a dead man but we can't see these guys placing ANY thing? Just release it and I will believe it. Good god. Whats even more interesting is that they had NO video evidence to speak of the first bomb being planted, just that he "walked in the direction of the first explosion"... Last Edited by Silent86 on 04/22/2013 02:33 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487956 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking through the affidavit of the FBI agent, they have all sorts-o-videos showing these two walking, placing the bombs, and walking away, within a 10 minute period, apparently the second placement he walked away within 10 seconds. Quoting: Silent86 Boy, I would LOVE to see those videos. Why is it that we can see a body of a dead man but we can't see these guys placing ANY thing? Just release it and I will believe it. Good god. Whats even more interesting is that they had NO video evidence to speak of the first bomb being planted, just that he "walked in the direction of the first explosion"... I don't think it definitively means that there is no video of the first bag being dropped, just that it's not necessarily relevant for these specific charges. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38253979 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking through the affidavit of the FBI agent, they have all sorts-o-videos showing these two walking, placing the bombs, and walking away, within a 10 minute period, apparently the second placement he walked away within 10 seconds. Quoting: Silent86 Boy, I would LOVE to see those videos. Why is it that we can see a body of a dead man but we can't see these guys placing ANY thing? Just release it and I will believe it. Good god. Whats even more interesting is that they had NO video evidence to speak of the first bomb being planted, just that he "walked in the direction of the first explosion"... You are just going to have to wait. It takes a lot of time to build a video like that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34876111 ![]() 04/22/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Quoting: Silent86 Here is the written complaint, looks like hes going to have an actual trial. ![]() Yeah, until it goes to trial and get gets off due to police brutality and not getting his miranda rights read to him... They are already starting that meme. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38698852 ![]() 04/22/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Quoting: Silent86 Here is the written complaint, looks like hes going to have an actual trial. ![]() Yeah, until it goes to trial and get gets off due to police brutality and not getting his miranda rights read to him... They are already starting that meme. Miranda rights have NOTHING to do with a lawful arrest. They are only needed if the police question you after an arrest. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38696713 ![]() 04/23/2013 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hang on a minute. is there something they're not telling us? this is an exact quote from a gov site.. [link to www.nrc.gov] A dirty bomb is not a “Weapon of Mass Destruction” now, if a DIRTY bomb is NOT a wmd, why is this fucker being charged with USING a wmd? |
KonspiracyKitty User ID: 21087890 ![]() 04/23/2013 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "They" say this kid had a WMD, and they "also" say Iraq with tanks and bombs and guns and fighter jets didn't have WMDs is just so beyond stupid it boggles the mind. If they want the death penalty, they don't need to try to get trumped up charges to stick. He murdered several people in a premeditated fashion and wounded dozens more, that's all you need for the needle if the prosecution is so inclined. This kind of shit worries me, first I hear they want to try him as an enemy combatant and now I hear they're charging him with the use of WMDs. How long is it before ANY crime you commit becomes "terrorism" and you're shipped off to Gitmo where you'll be deprived of the rights guaranteed by the constitution. I know the government would love not having to worry about violating our rights and has been looking for ways to take them away for a while. Accused of robbery, or burglary, or drug possession, or concealed firearm without a permit or anything else? TERRORISM! No trial 4 you! Off to Gitmo you go, terrorist scum! It's not too far fetched anymore to worry that that's what's going to happen soon. Last Edited by KonspiracyKitty on 04/23/2013 01:58 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38014334 ![]() 04/23/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is or isnt a "weapon of mass destruction" needs to be standardized. In international use, the term only refers to nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. In the US, the term is much broader: [link to en.wikipedia.org] --------------------------------------------------------------- For the purposes of US criminal law concerning terrorism,[29] weapons of mass destruction are defined as: any "destructive device" defined as any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas - bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces, missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce, mine, or device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses[30] any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life[31] The Federal Bureau of Investigation's definition is similar to that presented above from the terrorism statute:[32] any "destructive device" as defined in Title 18 USC Section 921: any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas - bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces, missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce, mine, or device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses any weapon designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors any weapon involving a disease organism any weapon designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life any device or weapon designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury by causing a malfunction of or destruction of an aircraft or other vehicle that carries humans or of an aircraft or other vehicle whose malfunction or destruction may cause said aircraft or other vehicle to cause death or serious bodily injury to humans who may be within range of the vector in its course of travel or the travel of its debris. Indictments and convictions for possession and use of WMD such as truck bombs,[33] pipe bombs,[34] shoe bombs,[35] and cactus needles coated with botulin toxin[citation needed] have been obtained under 18 USC 2332a. As defined by 18 USC §2332 (a), a Weapon of Mass Destruction is: (a) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of the title; (B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors; (C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or (D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life; Under the same statute, conspiring,attempting, threatening, or using a Weapon of Mass Destruction may be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, and if by death, be punishable by death or by imprisonment for any terms of years or for life. They can also be asked to pay a maximum fine of $250,000. ------------------------------------------------------------------ |