chemtrails ???

Why can't that be a shadow? You've never walked with the sun at your back and seen your shadow I front of you? All it requires is the sun at a slight angle.

I've noticed chemtrails spraying before I ever saw anything on the net about them. After watching them long enough I discovered a pattern and started researching.

Not that far ahead of something. These things/beams whatever are very odd.

Of course you noticed it. Contrails have been persistent since planes could fly high enough. But the idea of "chemtrails" didn't start until the rise of the internet.

Why not that far? Is there a limit to how long a shadow can be?

Ya, there is I think, but I don't think these Black Beams are shadows.

Well if they spray Aluminum / Barium concentrate.
They will need seeds that are GMO to live & grow.

Wo would think tthere is a need for Aluminum resistant
Seeds, Well Bill Gates & Monsanto come to mind...



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Very little Al+++ in the soil solution is required to cause damage to most plants. Few, if any plants grown for commercial purposes in this country will tolerate more than 1.0 ppm of soluble Al+++, and most will have some problems at levels greater than 0.5 ppm.

Aluminum is a common metal in soils. It is a significant toxin in acid soils (or soils exposed to acid rain) causing stunted roots (no rootlets ergo poor plant health). Good picture on that site as well.

Here are that site's general conclusions

-- When the soil pH is below 5.0, soluble Al is almost certainly a problem.

-- When the soil pH is between 5.0 and 5.5, soluble Al likely a small problem

-- When the soil pH is between 5.5 and 6.0, soluble Al is not likely to be a significant problem

-- When the soil pH is above 6.0, soluble Al is almost certainly not a problem.

-- Lime is the solution to excess soluble Al in the topsoil

-- Gypsum may be needed to correct excess soluble Al in the subsoil

Hope that's helpful - I learned something so... thanks! The genetic modification to withstand Aluminum is probably done to keep an acid tolerant plant from surviving the low pH but stunting from Al+++ poisoning.

Right. Just like on a cold day your breath linger on for miles in a trail behind you.

Really? What is the limit then? The Moon can cast a shadow on the Earth (and vice versa) from 250,000 miles. Why can't a contrail cast a shadow a mile or two in front of a plane?
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I noticed chemtrails and sometimes droppings/particles from them before I searched the internet.

The are all contrails.

Sometimes contrails are ephemeral and dissipate as quickly as they form; other times, depending on atmospheric conditions, contrails persist and grow wide enough to cover a substantial portion of the sky with a sheet of cirrostratus.

To make this concept simple for you, and not confuse you with the more complex physics of SUBLIMATION, because most people who believe in chemtrails have no understanding of physics. Contrails either dissipate or last depending on mainly two main conditions at fight levels (there are more, but like I said, I will keep it simple). Temperature, and Moisture content of the atomosphere. Contrails are made of ice crystals, much like snow flakes. Why do some snow flakes melt, and some stick around? Temperature and moisture content at ground level. The SAME SCIENCE. Basically if the air at flight levels is dryer or warmer, the contrails will dissappear quickly. If the air is very cold and supersaturated with moisture, the contrails will remain and form clouds. And then you have the conditions everywhere in between.

Now, when you learn how these conditions work, you will understand why you see more long lasting persistent contrails in front of weather systems. The uneducated will say "Chemtrails caused storms". Those with a basic understanding of Meteorology know the storm system created the conditions for persistent contrails out in front of the system.vv
Now for some basic science of Meteorology for the chemtrail believers. When a cold front or storm system is moving in, its cold dry air, that system is like a giant bulldozer that is pushing supersaturated air up high in the atmosphere. And that is a lot of times you see long lasting contrails before up to days before storms.

Sorry to ruin your thread with science. But I felt it was needed.

Under a full moon at 3:00 AM I watched a lower altitude plane approach Florida from the Bahamas. It was at about 10,000 feet.

It had no trail. Suddenly it turned on its contrail and sprayed something for a few miles, then turned it off as it went directly overhead. The jet was low enough to where I could hear the engines.

The winds on the ground were 10-15 knots. Winds aloft much more. The trail spread out and obscured a large portion of the sky. It was summer. Low altitude. Not high enough to sustain ice crystals.

That was all I needed to ever see. It was no contrail. The jet was clearly spraying something. It was spot treating an area.

I was also wondering who pays for all these chemtrails in the sky all over the world. I have been noticing them for about 3 years now. Does this have anything to do with population control? Who is controlling the weather? Yes, chemtrail awareness needs to be improved.

Where does the Air Force base their secret 200+ jet chemtrail fleet?

And more...many more. For almost a decade now!

As someone who has actually studied these subjects, I have an obligation to post the truth where you people post lies.

That's a lot of fine research you've done there...I have to wonder what you are trying to prove.

Too bad you don't put as much effort into your research in the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science.

Can't say I'm surprised though...

completely appreciate explanations like this

but...the crazies don't debate...they only get defensive, transfer and gaslight

otherwise their world comes crashing down

Wow, such bullshit. Its been admitted by gov officials, scientists, experts, weathermen/women, etc that this is fact. not fiction. amazing how blatantly in denial you all are. I've even witnessed it myself and im hard to convince without proper facts. I don't know why I even bother......