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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

-------
there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


--------------

and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

-------

i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



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Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
It's not about who, its always about what you do, to make your dream come true.
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I am not trying to defend Islam,, I am just saying the truth
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"if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land." (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"
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Those that are against islam aren't ignorant like you think they are


You can selectively quote peaceful Mecca verses as much as you want in an attempt to BS people. You know even better than me that the violent and warmongering Medina verses override the peaceful Mecca ones, making them invalid. Isn't it so, wise Muslim?
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Ergo, here goes bsflag
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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Cool story brohmed...

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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
-
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


You are either misinformed or an outright liar. All four major schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence state that the apostate is to be put to death

Muslim countries today have a death penalty for apostasy
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[009:029] Fight those from among the people of the Book, who believe not in ALLAH, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what ALLAH and HIS Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax considering it a favour and acknowledge their subjection.
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The problem is orders of magnitude worse than you think it is.

Even the Muslim religious 'authorities' do NOT understand that the Doctrine of "resurrection" in the Quran is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; that Mohammed was Elijah and John the Baptist 'raised from the dead'; and that the "Night Journey" of Mohammed is the same as the Vision of the "Son of man".

And I seriously doubt that there are even 10 people on the face of this wretched planet that are even aware enough to care about these Revelations.

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To be fair, there are parts of the Bible that go directly against the basic tenets taught by Jesus.

For every friendly/wonderful teaching of Jesus, there is a opposite verse in the bible.

For every Good Samaritan story there is one of stoning people or worse.

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 Quoting: The Comedian


That's a pretty long, and incriminating list.


So OP, what do you have to say about that?
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I am a muslim and my religion teaches me to kill everyone who is not muslim. ok?
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...well then, where are all Other faith institutions in Muslim countries? dismantled and non-existent.

Once upon a time in the 7th Century the storied story began....
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On one occasion, Muhammad ordered the beheading of more than 700 Jews who had surrendered to him. On another occasion, when a severed head was tossed at his feet by one of his men, he exclaimed that it was “more acceptable to me than the choicest camel in Arabia.” On still another occasion he exulted, “I have been made victorious through terror.” Indeed, the Qur’an is full of admonitions to terrorize. Was Muhammad perverting the religion he founded? Was he a “misunderstander” of Islam?
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When the Qur’an, the hadith, the sira, and the Islamic law manuals refer to jihad, they are almost always referring to the jihad of the sword. In Islam, the most commonly agreed-on definition of jihad is “war against non-Muslims.” The purpose of jihad is to establish, spread, and defend the religion of Islam. Although jihad is obligatory, not everyone is obliged to engage in battle. One can fulfill the obligation through financial support, moral support and, nowadays, through political activism, propaganda, and lawfare. The Qur’an, however, makes it quite clear that actual fighting is the preferred form of jihad—and certainly preferable to prayer in a mosque or to charitable works:

Do you pretend that he who gives a drink to the pilgrims and pays a visit to the Sacred Mosque is as worthy as the man who believes in God and the Last Day, and fights for God’s cause? These are not held equal by God…Those that have embraced the Faith, and left their homes, and fought for God’s cause with their wealth and with their persons are held in higher regard by God. (9: 19-20)

And they are held in high regard by many Muslims today, as indicated by the jubilation in the Muslim world following the 9/11 attack, the celebrations in Gaza after the Boston Marathon bombings, and the widespread mourning after the death of Osama Bin Laden.
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Most pious Muslims don’t pose a danger to their fellow citizens, but that may be because many pious Muslims, like many pious Catholics, aren’t fully acquainted with the teachings of their faith. However, the combination of piety and knowledge one finds in people like Bin Laden and Ayatollah Khomeini can be a danger signal. Recall that Major Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood murderer, was both a very devout Muslim and a knowledgeable one. For example, a year before his rampage he delivered a detailed and accurate PowerPoint presentation on Islamic doctrine to his medical colleagues.
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O Allah, vanquish the unjust Christians and the criminal Jews…strike them with your wrath…drape them with endless despair, unrelenting pain, and unremitting ailment; fill their lives with sorrow and pain…this is our supplication; Allah, grant us our request!
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Did Tsarnaev pervert his religion? One way to find out is to look at the place where Islam is primarily practiced and preached—the mosque. Between 1998 and 2011, four separate studies of US mosques found that approximately 80 percent of them were teaching Islamic supremacism, jihad, and contempt for Jews and Christians. About 80 percent had texts on site advocating violence, and one study revealed that in 84 percent of the mosques, texts supporting violence were recommended by the imam.
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All i know is that the women of Islam don't seem to carry the same rights as men of Islam.
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Serious questions have been raised about the leadership of the Islamic Society of Boston, which operates the two Islamic Centers—one in Cambridge and one in Boston—that the Tsarnaev brothers attended. One of ISB’s founders, Abdulrahman Alamoudi, is now in prison for his participation in an assassination plot. One of ISB’s original trustees, Imam Yusuf al-Qaradawi, is the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood; he once called the Holocaust a “divine punishment” of the Jews: “The last punishment was carried out by Hitler…Allah willing, the next time will be at the hands of the believers.” In May of 2012, Imam Abdullah Faarooq, one of the senior leaders of ISB, told an assembly that they must “pick up the gun and the sword” in response to the arrest of two Boston-area terrorists. According to Americans for Peace and Tolerance, “APT’s extensive investigation shows that the mosque is a font of extremism—bringing in viciously anti-Jewish and anti-Christian speakers, and being headed by extremist leadership.” The mosque’s influence, says APT, “has resulted in terrorist charges or convictions for several individuals connected to the mosque, including the son of the mosque’s former vice-president.”
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All i know is that the women of Islam don't seem to carry the same rights as men of Islam.
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They don't carry any clitorises either.
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O Allah, vanquish the unjust Christians and the criminal Jews…strike them with your wrath…drape them with endless despair, unrelenting pain, and unremitting ailment; fill their lives with sorrow and pain…this is our supplication; Allah, grant us our request!
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Oh Allah, fill their shorts with fleas and their hats with lice, fill their shirts with ticks and their trousers with fire ants. Fill their universities with lesbian libtards and their Supreme Courts with wise, fugly Latinas. Fill their TVs with Kardashians and their radios with pretentious NPR announcers with British accents.
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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

-------
there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


--------------

and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

-------

i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



People how do you think ?
Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Wait a minute, wasn't your prophet also a child molester?

And isn't the 72 virgins in paradise all young boys?
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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

-------
there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


--------------

and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

-------

i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



People how do you think ?
Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Awww and next you are going to tell us that we are all people of the "book" and share one God? Right? Am I right?

You insult us all repeating the above crap when all we have to do is look around and see otherwise.

GTF
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To be fair, there are parts of the Bible that go directly against the basic tenets taught by Jesus.

For every friendly/wonderful teaching of Jesus, there is a opposite verse in the bible.

For every Good Samaritan story there is one of stoning people or worse.
 Quoting: Forgotten


I won't get into the debate on Christian teachings on this thread.. too long


Just one question for you & all who try to use moral equivalency (which btw is a FAIL) please name one Christian group who use Scriptures as a rally call for violence. What is a Christian rally call for violence? Praise Jesus explode your bomb? It does not exist


In this whole wide world I suppose you might find 1 maybe 2 such small groups, the World is full of Muslim groups that use the Qur'an for a justification for violence


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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

-------
there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


--------------

and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

-------

i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



People how do you think ?
Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


hf
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of course there are many different sects of Islam that interpret Islam differently, and of course, most of the warfare in Islam is between these Islamic sects who have different opinions of what the Koran means.

I think there is more difference between the Islamic sects than there is between Christian sects.

Wahabism is the sect of Islam that is the cause of most of the international terrorism against the West.

It is a branch of Sunni Islam.

The state of Iraq was Sunni minority and Shiite majority but was actually a secular government, the Baathists were basically Arabic nazis who believed in evolution and scientific racism and all that.

Saudi Arabia is the biggest Wahabi country, it began there, It is over 300 years old.

Mecca and Medina are located in Saudi Arabia which probably makes it tend to be more religious, since pilgramages to Mecca and Medina are a main tenet of Islam, it is the Islamic holy land.

Shia is the sect of Islam that began in Iran and became Iran's religion in the 16th century.

Muslim missionaries to Iran did much like the Christian missionaries, they at first explained Islam in terms of Zoroastrianism, claiming Allah was sort of the same deity as Ahura Mazda. Christian missionaries blended the pagan religions and Christianity in the same way.
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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

-------
there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


--------------

and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

-------

i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



People how do you think ?
Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
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