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Majorty of Muslims are Ignorant about their religion and those who are Against Islam much Ignorant

 
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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

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there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


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and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

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i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



People how do you think ?
Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


The whole islam is a fraud, there was never such a prophet existing. This prophet muhammad was an invention of a group who rebelled against the East Roman Empire, the Quran was made out of the 5 books of Moses and it was bad translated and copied out of a Syrian-aramean Bible and some Christian Apocryphs had been added.
The quran is a very bad compilation of the original the Holy bible.

Everybody who knows and reads the Holy bible, which consist of many books will notice tha bad and corrupted charakter of the quran.
And it is clear that the prophet muhammad never existed, he was the predicted liar prophet of the Beast, the dragon, the Antichrist, the criminal.

How long you islam followers stay blind and ignorant and do not accept the ultimate TRUTH, Jesus Christ is the only way, the door and eternal life to the Father.
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Followers of the anti Christ...the unrighteous puppets of the devil himself.
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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Dont Christians tell me I have to accept their faith or be punished eternally in hell? Doesnt sound much different to me.

But all religions seem strange to me.

What do I know.
*shrug*
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"Western intellectuals and commentators refer to the enemy’s ideology as:

“Islamic Fundamentalism,” “Islamic Extremism,” “Totalitarian Islam,” “Islamofascism,” “Political Islam,” “Militant Islam,” “Bin Ladenism,” “Islamonazism,” “Radical Islam,” “Islamism,” etc….

The enemy calls it “Islam.”

--snip--

"From the Koran:

“Slay the idolators wherever you find them…” Chapter 9, verse 5

“When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads until you have made a great slaughter among them….” Ch. 47:4


Beyond the doctrine, there is the historical figure of Mohammad, who, more than anyone, defines Islam. How would you judge a man who lies, cheats, steals, rapes and murders as a way of life? This evil man is Islam’s ideal man, Mohammad. Whatever he said and did is deemed moral by virtue of the fact that he said it and did it. It’s no accident that the only morality that could sanction his behavior was his own. Nor is it an accident that Muslims who model themselves after him are the most violent.

For the 13 years that Mohammad failed to spread Islam by non-violent means, he was not so much peaceful as he was powerless. It was only through criminal activity and with the help of a large gang of followers that he managed to gain power. But he wanted his moral pretense too, so he changed Islam to reflect the fact that the only way it could survive was through force. And so, acting on Allah’s conveniently timed “revelation” that Islam can and should be spread by the sword, Mohammad led an army of Muslims across Arabia in the first jihad. From then on, violence became Islam’s way in the world. And today, acting on Mohammad’s words, “War is deceit” — in the sense that Muslims use earlier “peaceful” verses from the Koran as a weapon against the ignorance and good will of their victims. Those “peaceful” passages in the Koran were abrogated by later passages calling for eternal war against those who do not submit to Islam. How Mohammad spread Islam influenced the content of its doctrine and therefore tells us exactly what Islam means."

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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Dont Christians tell me I have to accept their faith or be punished eternally in hell? Doesnt sound much different to me.

But all religions seem strange to me.

What do I know.
*shrug*
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Big difference! One of the ten commandments..Thou shall not kill!
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Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."
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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Dont Christians tell me I have to accept their faith or be punished eternally in hell? Doesnt sound much different to me.

But all religions seem strange to me.

What do I know.
*shrug*
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Well if you don't believe in hell what is it going to hurt? Being "told" something is quite different than having to live under the very real threat of death every single day the way those who are not muzz live in muzz countries do.
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Drink urine
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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Dont Christians tell me I have to accept their faith or be punished eternally in hell? Doesnt sound much different to me.

But all religions seem strange to me.

What do I know.
*shrug*
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Christians don't want to make your head into a pez dispenser just because of a different belief.
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boo of love
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I am not trying to defend Islam,, I am just saying the truth
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Thank you, i agree. Most "christians" that claim they've studied the quran and are knowledgeable of islam, truely have not, and are ignorant. For them to claim Islam is a violent religion requires them to ignore what makes up the majority of the Old Testament - ignoring the "christian" God who commanded the Israelites to go into other lands and kill every man, woman and child, every animal, and to take the more desirable young virgins for themselves.
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Defending the WORLDS MOST VIOLENT DISPICABLE DISGRACEFUL HATEFUL GARBAGE faith is so sad.

SO SAD.
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I am not trying to defend Islam,, I am just saying the truth
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Thank you, i agree. Most "christians" that claim they've studied the quran and are knowledgeable of islam, truely have not, and are ignorant. For them to claim Islam is a violent religion requires them to ignore what makes up the majority of the Old Testament - ignoring the "christian" God who commanded the Israelites to go into other lands and kill every man, woman and child, every animal, and to take the more desirable young virgins for themselves.
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Why would anyone need to read the book when we see the movie everyday?
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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Dont Christians tell me I have to accept their faith or be punished eternally in hell? Doesnt sound much different to me.

But all religions seem strange to me.

What do I know.
*shrug*
 Quoting: Forgotten


Christians don't want to make your head into a pez dispenser just because of a different belief.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


boo of love
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yes
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To be fair, there are parts of the Bible that go directly against the basic tenets taught by Jesus.

For every friendly/wonderful teaching of Jesus, there is a opposite verse in the bible.

For every Good Samaritan story there is one of stoning people or worse.
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Now you have to understand the books of the Holy Bible are in chronological order, first the books of Moses then followed by the book of Joshua, than the books of the Judges

All books with chapters:

Genesis 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
Exodus 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40
Leviticus 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
Numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
Deuteronomy 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34
Joshua 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
Judges 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
Ruth 1 2 3 4
1 Samuel 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
2 Samuel 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
1 Kings 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
2 Kings 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
1 Chronicles 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29
2 Chronicles 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
Ezra 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Nehemiah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Esther 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Job 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42
Psalm 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150
Proverbs 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Ecclesiastes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Song of Solomon 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Isaiah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66
Jeremiah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52
Lamentations 1 2 3 4 5
Ezekiel 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48
Daniel 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Hosea 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Joel 1 2 3
Amos 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Obadiah 1
Jonah 1 2 3 4
Micah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Nahum 1 2 3
Habakkuk 1 2 3
Zephaniah 1 2 3
Haggai 1 2
Zechariah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Malachi 1 2 3 4
Matthew 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
Mark 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Luke 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
John 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
Acts 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
Romans 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
1 Corinthians 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
2 Corinthians 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Galatians 1 2 3 4 5 6
Ephesians 1 2 3 4 5 6
Philippians 1 2 3 4
Colossians 1 2 3 4
1 Thessalonians 1 2 3 4 5
2 Thessalonians 1 2 3
1 Timothy 1 2 3 4 5 6
2 Timothy 1 2 3 4
Titus 1 2 3
Philemon 1
Hebrews 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
James 1 2 3 4 5
1 Peter 1 2 3 4 5
2 Peter 1 2 3
1 John 1 2 3 4 5
2 John 1
3 John 1
Jude 1
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The books of Moses and the book of Joshua are the most violent ones. Most of the people know only the books of Mosis, so the most violent ones. Read the other books and I recommend the Roman-Catholic version of the Bible with the books of Ester, Judith and Tobit.
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I have researched more religions than most. I know more about these religions than most people that follow those religions.


I like Buddhism the best. Less killing/hate over there.

Taoism isnt too bad either.

Me myself, I am a pantheist. Everything is God.

p.s. I was raised Methodist and went to Church every Sunday for 13 years.

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I am not trying to defend Islam,, I am just saying the truth
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Thank you, i agree. Most "christians" that claim they've studied the quran and are knowledgeable of islam, truely have not, and are ignorant. For them to claim Islam is a violent religion requires them to ignore what makes up the majority of the Old Testament - ignoring the "christian" God who commanded the Israelites to go into other lands and kill every man, woman and child, every animal, and to take the more desirable young virgins for themselves.
 Quoting: JackBlue


Why would anyone need to read the book when we see the movie everyday?
 Quoting: davvi


Yeah, the movie that's scripted to fool you. Dumbass. Name some 100% legit muslim terrorist acts?

Still think 9/11 was done by muslims? Dumbass.
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Defending the WORLDS MOST VIOLENT DISPICABLE DISGRACEFUL HATEFUL GARBAGE faith is so sad.

SO SAD.
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Yeah, This Christian nation hasn't killed anyone......
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For the hundred time..

there is no such a thing as

- Killing the unbelievers in Islam
- Killing who converts his religion
- Forcing anyone to Islam

-------
there is only two conditions that gives the right to kill or fight

1- if who ever is transgressor and trying kill you
2- and the groups of people who do corruption in earth and harm people

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"


--------------

and even if it was a war time

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

-------

i can list to you tens of verses that talks about peace, forbidding the killing of innocent people ( believers and non),

but whats the point,, most of people don't look at it with an eye of justice,, they just misquote from the Quran and give it the meaning they like and support their opinion..

Even Muslims they have tens of false concepts about Islam in their Minds about Islam and they refuse to give it up...


whats wrong with you people ?

The Prophet Muhammed himself lived in peace for years with the Jews and the Christians..

...

Just see what the Quran says about those who do good from Jews and Christians

" Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, [] whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve"



People how do you think ?
Why do you see the truth then turn you back on it as if you didn't see it
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


Amazing how the Catholics, or any other religion for that matter all believe in some seriously stupid shit
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duh!
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Defending the WORLDS MOST VIOLENT DISPICABLE DISGRACEFUL HATEFUL GARBAGE faith is so sad.

SO SAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37385314


Yeah, This Christian nation hasn't killed anyone......
 Quoting: JackBlue



Christain faith and Judisism is all GARBAGE too. But those GARBAGE faiths are much less violent and dangerous than Islam.

THEY ARE ALL MAN-MADE BELEIVES YOU PATHETIC RELIGOUS TOOLS!!!!!!!!!!
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To be fair, there are parts of the Bible that go directly against the basic tenets taught by Jesus.

For every friendly/wonderful teaching of Jesus, there is a opposite verse in the bible.

For every Good Samaritan story there is one of stoning people or worse.
 Quoting: Forgotten


That's very true. If there were militant radical Christians using those parts of the Bible to wage acts of terror against the unbelievers, then the whole value of the religion would be called into question, as Islam seems to be now because of the radical nature of so many of its believers.
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"if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land." (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


"if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land." (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"
 Quoting: Quran Sciences



Who are you learning Islam from? Abdul next door? Don't you know that Muslims are obligated to lie to you (if you are a kaffir).
Muslims lived in peace with their neighbors? Did you never hear of the 600-900 men and BOYS Muhammed had beheaded AFTER they had surrendered?

His criteria for beheading was if they had pubic hair. That means they were as young as 12. Then he and his merry band of thieves raped and enslaved the women.
Do you know what dhimmitude is? Look it up. Is one of the 3 choices you've got if Muslims are in control. 1.conversion 2.dhimmitude 3. Death.
Yeah that sounds like a just and merciful creed to me.

The best source to learn Islam from is from someone who was raised in it and left it. They are the only ones who will tell you the truth. Read Understanding Muhammad by Ali Sina and then come back and talk to us.

I don't think anyone can be as dumb as you, your either a Muslim or a shrill. Your like one of those saps with the co-exist bumper stickers on their cars. I always want to flip those people off. Can't get much more stupid than that.
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OP, you will find out the truth soon enough. There is no God but YHWH. "Allah" is nothing but a demon. Of course you will laugh and try to respond in some snide way, but the moment you die you will know the Truth and wish you had listened.
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You got it wrong dude. Way wrong. Leave that mess behind. There is only YAHWEH. There is no other. You are a sinner. You answer to HIM and HIM alone. He forgives you and that's all their is too it.
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I am not trying to defend Islam,, I am just saying the truth
 Quoting: Quran Sciences


This is a common trait you come across while a non-muslim talks to a muslim, and how a muslim generally views the non-muslim world. You assume the non-muslims are ignorant, so you continue to push your viral agenda into the minds.

You are wrong. Islam is a mind-fuck virus, created to subjugate the feminine energies (including and mainly the feminine chakra energies in both males and females).
And you, the OP, are just an example of this virus at work, coming to GLP and spreading lies about a cult that today everybody is aware of:



its funny to see all those fuckers here hating islam for no real reason...other than ignorance and stereo type image shoved in their peet brain by the zionist media...taking the fack that this site promotes islam hate and ban anti-zionisits...among other things a simple google search can reveal....i am muslim ..and i dont give a fuck what you think of islam but my religion tough me to respect your religion..as long as you dont worship a cow like that fucking OP.

to be more honest with you,i really like how you back the zionists,they will suck you dry..as if they arent doing so already,india is another story for another day,as if they dont have enough problems in their country heh..btw OP go tell your uncle and friends to leave the rich arab countries and go back to the shit hole they came from,fucking maokly ape
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No reason huh?
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The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"



Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.



Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."



Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.




Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"



Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.



Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).




Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."




Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).



Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)



Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.



Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.



Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."



Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"



Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.



Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.



Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning war. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.



Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.



Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
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And it really is not that simple for you to assume people are stupid anymore,
becos we have your own people, muslims coming out with the real truth about the real shoe box cult that is islam;

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Mohammad was a desert retard who'd had too much sun, who created this shoe box cult to suit his own power agendas.

If he needed to fuck a girl , all he'd say was "allah wills that I fuck this girl". Allah was a tool that mohammad used for his own political ends.
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bullshit
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Total BS.... Islam = hate and murder. bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagjihad2jihad2islampeaceislampeace





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