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Anger at Bush may hurt GOP at polls - Turnout this fall could favor Democrats - Ya THINK??

 
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Anger at Bush may hurt GOP at polls
Turnout this fall could favor Democrats

By Charles Babington
The Washington Post
Updated: 12:22 a.m. ET April 17, 2006


Intense and widespread opposition to President Bush is likely to be a sharp spur driving voters to the polls in this fall's midterm elections, according to strategists in both parties, a phenomenon that could give Democrats a turnout advantage over Republicans for the first time in recent years.

Polls have reflected voter discontent with Bush for many months, but as the election nears, operatives are paying special attention to one subset of the numbers. It is the wide disparity between the number of people who are passionate in their dislike of Bush vs. those who support him with equal fervor.

Lately, there have been a lot more of the former -- and even Republicans acknowledge that could spell trouble in closely contested congressional races.

"Angry voters turn out and vote their anger," said Glen Bolger, a pollster for several Republican congressional candidates. "Democrats will have an easier time of getting out their vote because of their intense disapproval of the president. That means we Republicans are going to have to bring our 'A' turnout game in November."

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll showed 47 percent of voters "strongly" disapprove of Bush's job performance, vs. 20 percent who said they "strongly approve."

In the recent past, this perennial truism of politics -- emotion equals turnout -- has worked more to the Republican advantage. Several weeks before the 2002 midterm elections, Bush had 42 percent of voters strongly approving of him, compared with 18 percent in strong opposition. Democrats were stunned on election night when Republicans defied historical patterns and made gains in the House and Senate. The president's party usually loses seats during the first midterm elections after he takes office.

The premise behind the Democrats' hopes this year is simple, though not easy to quantify: People impassioned by anger or other sentiments are more likely to vote -- even in bad weather and in relatively low-profile races -- than are those who are demoralized or less emotional.

"In a midterm election, motivation is the biggest factor," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), head of his party's House campaign efforts this year.

Whether anti-Bush sentiments portend a political tidal wave in November is much debated, but Democrats hope they are hearing early echoes of 1974 and 1994. There was massive turnover of congressional seats in those midterm elections, as fired-up voters first punished Republicans for Watergate, and later turned on Democrats because of President Bill Clinton's failed health-care initiative and because of anger over House ethics abuses.

Intense opposition
The intense opposition to Bush is larger than any faced by Clinton. For all the polarization the 42nd president inspired, Clinton's strong disapproval never got above 37 percent in Post-ABC polls during his presidency.

Democratic pollster Geoff Garin said GOP House candidates have reason to worry. His surveys find that 82 percent of Americans who say they voted for Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004 plan to vote for a Democrat for the House this year. But only 65 percent who voted for Bush say they will vote for a Republican House nominee, Garin said. The remaining 35 percent say they are open to voting for a Democrat or staying home.

"We get a large chunk of Bush voters who are not motivated to go out and vote for Republicans this fall," Garin said. "That puts a lot of red districts into play."

Republican officials acknowledge Bush's problems but predict they will not translate into significant setbacks this fall. "I don't think that intensity is going to be a problem at all" in key House races, said Carl Forti, spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee.


Both parties will spend heavily on those races, he said, "so every person who's going to vote will have seen TV ads, gotten phone calls, gotten mail." That will give them ample information to base their decision on the candidates, not on their feelings toward Bush, Forti said. He noted that polls continue to show that most Americans approve of their own House member even if they dislike Congress as a whole, and that bodes well for the party in power.

"They may be upset nationally," Forti said. "But clearly that does not mean they're not going to go vote for their congressman." House elections will turn mainly on local issues and nominees, he said.

The Post-ABC News poll found that 59 percent of registered voters approve of their own representative, a lower number than in past months. But only 35 percent approve of the way Congress is doing its job. Forty percent said they plan to vote for a Republican in this year's House elections, and 55 percent said they will vote for a Democrat.

Republicans will court voters such as Johanna Lee, an insurance customer-service representative from northeast Maryland, a state with sharply contested races for Senate and governor.

Lee, 62, describes herself as a conservative Democrat who regrets voting for Bush in 2000 and 2004. She opposes his willingness to grant guest-worker status to illegal immigrants, who she feels "should be taken out of our country." Lee initially supported the invasion of Iraq, but says now "we should come out of the war because we're not doing any good there."

‘I vote for the candidate’
Despite her discontent, Lee said she would consider voting for Republicans for Congress and governor this fall. "I don't vote party," she said. "I vote for the candidate."

Other voters are less charitable. Shirley Jackson of Woodbury, Minn., said she formerly considered herself an independent voter "and my husband used to be a staunch Republican. But now we're both Democrats."

The main reason, she said, is Bush's handling of the war. "My husband and I think he lied to us, and he won't admit he's lied to us," said Jackson, 69. She said she believes Bush launched the war to avenge Iraq's reported plan to assassinate his father.

Jackson is following the competitive race to replace retiring Sen. Mark Dayton (D), and she doesn't like Republican candidate Mark Kennedy. "I won't vote for him, I'm pretty sure," she said.

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Too bad most people don't vote ALL the time- just when they're pissed about something.
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How true, Phoenix.

It makes me incredibly angry to know that every year the primary has less voters than the general election.

People need to realize the primary is WHERE the candidates are picked (ha!) for the November elections...sigh.
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the fix is in

[link to www.blackboxvoting.org]
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imo, it will either be mccain or guilliani
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if you beleive in god Polly, DONT VOTE or you will be damed with this babylonian system of GOVERMENT. end
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congress had 900 pages of documents to read to conclude the war Polly. They read just one third of the evidence and voted for war, I am, was a democrat now I will never vote again, these big religious zealota can face god about it NOT ME!
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>>>"Ya THINK??"<<<

No...But clearly you do...
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A.C. 74266, thanks for the link to Black Box Voting. I keep forgetting to check that site.

Also, Guliani may have had a slight chance at one time, but no more. The lustre has gone.

McCain, the man, I respect. However, he's too wishy-washy for me regarding his relationship with bush and what I've been able to discern with his party. He, too, had a good chance at becoming a viable candidate. I just don't know how the public perceives him nowdays.
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A.C. 40676, they may have actually read MORE of those documents than normally, sigh. One has to wonder if they ever really know, other than the highlights, exactly what they're voting for with all the ammendments and add-ons.

Too many people forego voting, I won't be one of them. Even if my vote goes missing or isn't counted, I have a clear conscience. I will do my duty.
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A.C. 80623, then clearly you view the world through rose colored glasses and wear blinders.

There WILL be a ripple effect over the policies of this administration. Is that the right way to vote? NO!! However, try telling that to all the millions of disenfranchised citizens.

The GOP may as well save their money this election because emptying their war chests will result in far fewer Republican wins this year. And, I think they already know that.
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It don't matter. The Council on Foreign Relations is set up to work whichever Party is in Office. They pacify the masses, and keep on with their agenda.

The only way you'll make a difference in this Country is shine the light on the CFR, Protest CFR Events, and get the word out.
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They better have puke buckets!
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It is my ferveernt wish and hope that Americans vote the other parties.

I'm an Independent.
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OH GOD FORBID

thats what we need another chicken crap liberal pervert to disgrace the office.

shame on us if one gets in
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A.C. 72019, right now I'd take that chickenshit liberal pervert 10 times over bush.

Guess you're not up on current events.

If nothing else worries you in this completely screwed up world right now, just remember to be VERY worried if you ever see a big, bright flash in the sky.

It'll likely be the very last thing you see.
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just remember to be VERY worried if you ever see a big, bright flash in the sky.


we will see that for sure with a lib in office

better brush up on your Koran

polly you won't look so hot in a burka
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the reason why i said mccain or guiliani had nothing to do with them actually 'winning an election'

i meant one of them will be selected by TPB and diebold and the media will do the rest.
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A.C. 74266, I understand. I just wanted to respond.
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This is not news. What this is for is to rally the Republicans and make the Democrats comfortable so they won't see any reason to get out the vote much less vote themselves (since it is all sown up). This is a strategic blow for the Republicans upon the Democrats. They have this optimized and timed to a specific length of time before the election. It is very basic manipulation...
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