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70 JORDANIAN CODICES SPEAK AN ANCIENT TRUTH.....

 
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"I shall walk uprightly"
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hf
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"I shall walk uprightly"
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hf
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Those who Walk Uprightly enter into peace.

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"I shall walk uprightly"
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hf
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Those who Walk Uprightly enter into peace.

hf
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Peace of mind and soul shall lead one home!
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That is crazy cool. Can't wait to have a closer look when I have some quiet time. Thanks so much for posting it!

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That is crazy cool. Can't wait to have a closer look when I have some quiet time. Thanks so much for posting it!

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Thank you!!
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It would be really sweet if this was true but everywhere I look it looks to be fake.
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I feel it is only fake for the ones who want it to be...The truth of everything will be soon known the way things are going..
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You just don't get it, do you?

It makes NO difference whether these metal books are true or fake.

The media and religious 'authorities' would NOT allow any of that Truth to be publicized. The only thing that they would allow to be published are distractions from the Truth because Truth would destroy the religious establishment.

Look at what happened to the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Codices.

It is now some 56 and 58 years since they have been discovered, and STILL it has not been publicized that Jesus was the author of the Thanksgiving Hymns or that the Treatise On Resurrection clearly demonstrates that Jesus taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; a Doctrine which would threaten the ENTIRE monotheistic religious establishment.

Michael
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I think I'll stick with Oxford professor than random amateur who twists things to his point of view. PS, there isn't any reference in Bible about three kings. There were witnesses and there isn't written how many of them, there was three gifts from them. Get your facts straight.
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It would be really sweet if this was true but everywhere I look it looks to be fake.
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


I feel it is only fake for the ones who want it to be...The truth of everything will be soon known the way things are going..
 Quoting: Settle4It


You just don't get it, do you?

It makes NO difference whether these metal books are true or fake.

The media and religious 'authorities' would NOT allow any of that Truth to be publicized. The only thing that they would allow to be published are distractions from the Truth because Truth would destroy the religious establishment.

Look at what happened to the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Codices.

It is now some 56 and 58 years since they have been discovered, and STILL it has not been publicized that Jesus was the author of the Thanksgiving Hymns or that the Treatise On Resurrection clearly demonstrates that Jesus taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; a Doctrine which would threaten the ENTIRE monotheistic religious establishment.

Michael
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Hahaha. :D
It is not published cause obviously Jesus didn't teach this. Media hates Christianity and wants it gone. They would LOVE to see some proof of aliens. Let's take R. Reagan, he said we NEED alien invasion to form NWO. Where is your logic? We were forced in school to watch documentary about aliens, if they don't want alien disclosure, they very much suck at this.
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70 METAL BOOKS FROM JORDAN - JORDANIAN CODICES SPEAK AN ANCIENT TRUTH

In a nutshell, the truth emerging so far will not only elevate the reality of a Universal Creator to a higher and more pure human uplifting outcome, it stands a chance of uniting all traditions in every nation who actually share different pieces of this encoded puzzle.
 Quoting: Settle4It


The "false prophet" monotheistic religious 'authorities' and their accomplice WHORES in the "dragon" media would NEVER allow this Truth to be publicized.

That was what the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Codices were about in the first place.

Michael
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The debunking is prevalent; looking more and more like a PTB forgery to add confusion. If they tell the origin of the Jewish 'religion' I'll re-visit for authenticity; but seems like a new misdirection. How many fkkn hoops are you all going to jump through before you get tired of the trick? They don't tire watching. Must be entertainment for them.abduct
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Closer every day !

hf

Blessings and LOVE, Thanks !
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Cool thread! 5* Hey, you have a new account! Nice av., adding you to buddies.
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Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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I am swayed in this instance OP, toward the codices being fake, here is an extract of the email exchange between Peter Thonemann and David Elkington. Peter Thonemann was the guy from Oxford who staked his reputation on the codices being fake.




Peter Thonemann on the Lead Codices:

"On 15 September 2010, I received the following email out of the blue from a certain David Elkington "


“Dear Dr. Thonemann,

In relation to a discovery that I have been investigating in the Middle East I was given your email address by a friend […]. I am a biblical historian and specialist in the field of Christian and Hebrew origins. I’m working with Prof. Philip Davies of Sheffield University and Dr. Margaret Barker on a discovery that I made a few years back of a cache of ancient metal codices. They are comprised of lead and of copper – it is one of the copper codices that brings me to you. We think that it has a possible origin in Alexandria at the beginning of the 1st millennium AD – (the Bedouin who brought them to me said that his father found them in northern Egypt). It has an inscription in Greek along the top. A putative investigation has failed to find the meaning, dialect or type of Greek used and we are seeking to find an expert who might help in determining what it says.
Would you have the time and the knowledge to be able to help?

If you can I would be terribly grateful – I could email you a photograph of the codex as soon as you would like, however I would very much like to discuss it in person if at all possible […].

I look forward to your reply

Best Wishes

David Elkington”






After having a close look at the photos, I replied later that same day:

“Dear David,

A surprisingly easy task, as it turns out!

The Greek text at the top of your photo no. 0556 reads: ΛΛΥΠΕΧΛΙΡΕ&​#923;ΒΓΛΡΟΚΛΙΕ&#​921;ΣΙΩΝ, followed by ΛΛΥΠΕ in mirror-writing.

This text corresponds to ΛΛΥΠΕ ΧΛΙΡΕ ΛΒΓΛΡ Ο ΚΛΙ ΕΙΣΙΩΝ, i.e. ἄλυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγαρ ὁ καὶ Εἰσίων, followed by the word ἄλυπε again, in mirror writing. The text at the bottom of your photo no. 0532 is the first part of the same text again: ΛΥΠΕΧΛΙΡΕΛ&​#914;Γ, i.e. [ἄ]λυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγ…

The text was incised by someone who did not know the Greek language, since he does not distinguish between the letters lambda and alpha: both are simply represented, in each of the texts, by the shape Λ.

The text literally means ‘without grief, farewell! Abgar also known as Eision’. This text, in isolation, is meaningless.

However, this text corresponds precisely to line 2 of the Greek text of a bilingual Aramaic/Greek inscription published by J.T. Milik, Syria 35 (1958) 243-6 no.6 (SEG 20, 494), and republished in P.-L. Gatier, Inscriptions grecques et latines de Syrie XXI: Inscriptions de la Jordanie, 2: Region centrale (Paris 1986), no.118. That inscription reads, in its entirety, as follows,

1 Σελαμαν χρηστὲ καὶ
2 ἄλυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγαρ ὁ καὶ Εἰσίων
3 Μονοαθου υἱὸς υἱῷ τειμίῳ τὸ μνῆμα
4 ἐποίησεν ἔτους τρίτου ἐπαρχείας

’For Selaman, excellent and harmless man, farewell! Abgar, also known as Eision, son of Monoathos, constructed this tomb for his excellent son (i.e. Selaman), in the third year of the province’.

This is a stone tombstone from Madaba in Jordan, precisely dated to AD 108/9, on display in the Archaeological Museum in Amman.

The text on your bronze tablet, therefore, makes no sense in its own right, but has been extracted unintelligently from another longer text (as if it were inscribed with the words: ‘t to be that is the question wheth’). The longer text from which it derives is a perfectly ordinary tombstone from Madaba in Jordan which happens to have been on display in the Amman museum for the past fifty years or so. The text on your bronze tablet is repeated, in part, in three different places, meaningless in each case.

The only possible explanation is that the text on the bronze tablet was copied directly from the inscription in the museum at Amman by someone who did not understand the meaning of the text of the inscription, but was simply looking for a plausible-looking sequence of Greek letters to copy. He copied that sequence three times, in each case mixing up the letters alpha and lambda.

This particular bronze tablet is, therefore, a modern forgery, produced in Jordan within the last fifty years. I would stake my career on it.

All good wishes,

Peter Thonemann”





Regretfully the Greek text is not a supported font but the full article is here [link to danielomcclellan.wordpress.com]
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I am swayed in this instance OP, toward the codices being fake, here is an extract of the email exchange between Peter Thonemann and David Elkington. Peter Thonemann was the guy from Oxford who staked his reputation on the codices being fake.


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That's cool AC...We all have the right to our opinion!...Unless Obama has pass another law against it now...scratching
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Born 1-4-69, and have devoted my life to the search for what time it is, up until a few years ago when I came to the conclusion that we are on vacation from actual reality here in this dimensional confine.

There are many treasure map's on this vacation, and the key to finding the eternal fountain of youth emerges when we discover that love is the only way we can truly coexist.

My advice: make love your God, and embrace the messiah who is the word/code of the matrix of reality and you will possess deeper insight to life and reality while on your vacation, and be sure to position yourself in as many Kodak Moments as possible.
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Born 1-4-69, and have devoted my life to the search for what time it is, up until a few years ago when I came to the conclusion that we are on vacation from actual reality here in this dimensional confine.

There are many treasure map's on this vacation, and the key to finding the eternal fountain of youth emerges when we discover that love is the only way we can truly coexist.

My advice: make love your God, and embrace the messiah who is the word/code of the matrix of reality and you will possess deeper insight to life and reality while on your vacation, and be sure to position yourself in as many Kodak Moments as possible.
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hf...Like this!
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I am swayed in this instance OP, toward the codices being fake, here is an extract of the email exchange between Peter Thonemann and David Elkington. Peter Thonemann was the guy from Oxford who staked his reputation on the codices being fake.


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That's cool AC...We all have the right to our opinion!...Unless Obama has pass another law against it now...scratching
 Quoting: Settle4It


There is a difference between opinion and ignorance. You want to push your beliefs through false proof. I have witnessed again and again this with supporters of "Christ Conspiracy". Next time try to read the Bible and get your facts straight before you start spouting your opinion or you won't be taken seriously by well educated people. But as I can see you aim your opinion to unsophisticated and gullible people. By doing this you show yourself in the light as your audience.
I'm a bibletard, sorry for the inconvenience.
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I am swayed in this instance OP, toward the codices being fake, here is an extract of the email exchange between Peter Thonemann and David Elkington. Peter Thonemann was the guy from Oxford who staked his reputation on the codices being fake.


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That's cool AC...We all have the right to our opinion!...Unless Obama has pass another law against it now...scratching
 Quoting: Settle4It


There is a difference between opinion and ignorance. You want to push your beliefs through false proof. I have witnessed again and again this with supporters of "Christ Conspiracy". Next time try to read the Bible and get your facts straight before you start spouting your opinion or you won't be taken seriously by well educated people. But as I can see you aim your opinion to unsophisticated and gullible people. By doing this you show yourself in the light as your audience.
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Thank you! You are so sweet!
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Born 1-4-69, and have devoted my life to the search for what time it is, up until a few years ago when I came to the conclusion that we are on vacation from actual reality here in this dimensional confine.

There are many treasure map's on this vacation, and the key to finding the eternal fountain of youth emerges when we discover that love is the only way we can truly coexist.

My advice: make love your God, and embrace the messiah who is the word/code of the matrix of reality and you will possess deeper insight to life and reality while on your vacation, and be sure to position yourself in as many Kodak Moments as possible.
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hf

nicely said!
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Those who have ears let him hear. And let no one tell tell you it can be deciphered. Because it cant be explained. Its a path you must walk alome. Look at them , and i mean really look you lll see its real and the glory which surround them
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I am swayed in this instance OP, toward the codices being fake, here is an extract of the email exchange between Peter Thonemann and David Elkington. Peter Thonemann was the guy from Oxford who staked his reputation on the codices being fake.


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That's cool AC...We all have the right to our opinion!...Unless Obama has pass another law against it now...scratching
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With respect I wasn't stating my own opinion, but it does seem that for the Oxford professor it was an easy task to draw a quick conclusion as to their authenticity, based solely on the way in which the Greek was worded.

QUOTE "The only possible explanation is that the text on the bronze tablet was copied directly from the inscription in the museum at Amman by someone who did not understand the meaning of the text of the inscription, but was simply looking for a plausible-looking sequence of Greek letters to copy. He copied that sequence three times, in each case mixing up the letters alpha and lambda."


I have always held a fascination for discoveries such as these, but critical thinking serves as a useful tool.
What I have posted in an effort to contribute to your thread are my 'findings' rather than my opinion.

I really do like your thread btw, there is more to it than just these books. 5*

peace
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I am swayed in this instance OP, toward the codices being fake, here is an extract of the email exchange between Peter Thonemann and David Elkington. Peter Thonemann was the guy from Oxford who staked his reputation on the codices being fake.


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That's cool AC...We all have the right to our opinion!...Unless Obama has pass another law against it now...scratching
 Quoting: Settle4It




With respect I wasn't stating my own opinion, but it does seem that for the Oxford professor it was an easy task to draw a quick conclusion as to their authenticity, based solely on the way in which the Greek was worded.

QUOTE "The only possible explanation is that the text on the bronze tablet was copied directly from the inscription in the museum at Amman by someone who did not understand the meaning of the text of the inscription, but was simply looking for a plausible-looking sequence of Greek letters to copy. He copied that sequence three times, in each case mixing up the letters alpha and lambda."


I have always held a fascination for discoveries such as these, but critical thinking serves as a useful tool.
What I have posted in an effort to contribute to your thread are my 'findings' rather than my opinion.

I really do like your thread btw, there is more to it than just these books. 5*

peace
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Thanks AC...I know there is so much more out there...Also happy you took the time to reply here!!
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Maybe this man does not want the truth known...many don't!
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Do we still have to listen to the lies of the storytellers?

Any "universal truths" coming out of that region of the world would have to be suspect given the size of the lies they have already forced down our throats and god us we can't question or examine.

Anything that even hints at "one world unifying religion", one world spiritual outlook is enough to make me vomit. The same fuckheads would be out there manipulating the shit behind the scenes.

It's all lies, all fucking lies..... Don't these arseholes have enough already?
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The question we should ask how can we be the judge of something which is divine? Because we expect it has to apply on some rules we make? Or because someone is stating it? Its the everlasting journey which you have to do alone, look for answers yourself. Because no man can give it to you but your insight itself.
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[email protected] this shit.
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Cool stuff, OP!
Well done thread!
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Five Stars!
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Hello, As Above.

I would like to introduce you to So Below...



I've been lurking in your posts.

You are special OP. Please don't be discouraged if the audience here on GLP doesn't 'get it' yet.

You are ahead of your time. It will take a while for them to understand the significance of it all.

Maybe years.

Thank you.

flowas
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5 stars! Nicely done OP!


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Hello, As Above.

I would like to introduce you to So Below...



I've been lurking in your posts.

You are special OP. Please don't be discouraged if the audience here on GLP doesn't 'get it' yet.

You are ahead of your time. It will take a while for them to understand the significance of it all.

Maybe years.

Thank you.

flowas
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Thanks AC...Great video!