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My 9 year old special needs child confided to me today that fairies are real and she knows this because one comes to talk to her sometimes. She's very insistent that this is real and not made up or a cartoon. She says it is a small woman about a foot tall named Mikkola and when she is afraid Mikkola comes and tells her not to be afraid, like when she has a bad dream.

She stumbled on the name, she looked upwards like people do when they are trying to remember. She had trouble pronouncing it. I'm thinking it could be anything like Michaela, Mikayla, Mikla, etc.

She claims this little woman has been coming to her since she was in kindergarten. Says she has wings so she knows it is a fairy.

Is there a cartoon fairy with a name like this that she might have seen on tv or in a movie or something? Is it a doll? Is there some angel with this name?

On the worse side I fear this might be an alien abduction screen memory, It's making me sick just thinking about it.

We don't even know anybody with a name similar to that.

Oh, and she said this fairy lives in Canada, or London. Then she asked me where Canada is, and where London is!

Input please?
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Now prepare yourself... I'm not kidding here... Fairies are Real.. Ask her to ask Mikayla, what kind of fairie she is?.. My Girlfriend talks to Fairies all the time...Her fairie is named Faranika
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3160: "she looked upwards like people do when they are trying to remember"

Can you remember if she looked slightly to the left or right when she looked up?

There's a school of thought that people will look slightly to the right and up when they are trying to come up with a lie, and slightly to the left and up when they are genuinely recalling something as it happened.

I'm not saying I subscribe to it, but from what I've seen it tends to be generally correct.
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Yeah, it was more to her left, the upward looking.

Also when I make up silly mom stories she always gets angry with me and yells at me that that isn't real! (like when I was in the navy I was a jedi for my job, ha ha ha) She needs to have her world in order and doesn't like make believe.

There was one time I went upstairs to go to bed and both my daughter and my husband, on their separate beds, were both out of their covers and upside down, fast asleep, as if they'd been dropped there. That perturbs me to this day, neither of them have done that before or since, and both on the same night like that and I was awake downstairs and didn't hear a thing, nor did the dogs bark.

Some of my other kids report strange things too, but not fairies. I could write a few pages on the odd things but this one I don't have a clue about.

I'm not sure that I believe fairies could be real.

I don't know what to think at this point.
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Don't let the so called Christians on this board to find about it.

Cause everything outside their norm is the devil.
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dont let it worry you. kids have very active imaginations. they can scare the crap out of us adults sometimes. teach her to say her prayers before bedtime and she will not seek comfort from outside sources
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<<There's a school of thought that people will look slightly to the right and up when they are trying to come up with a lie, and slightly to the left and up when they are genuinely recalling something as it happened.>>

If the girl is left handed, then you have to reverse the results.

I do not think she is lying. I would listen to her respectfully and I would pay attention to the 'quality' of the messages that the so called fairy is giving her. Under no circumstances I would dismiss her, or she will not say another word.
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Presumptuous and incorrect as most christians believe in spirits and higher beings, as I do myself.

It's actually my belief guides take on which ever role best suited for the learnee. And let us not forget that sometimes while they're a learnee on one level, they're a teacher on another.




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Don't let the so called Christians on this board to find about it.

Cause everything outside their norm is the devil.
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OP you're a little paranoid. That being said, I dated a girl who saw spirits of dead people when she was a little girl. I believe her. The pineal gland is not fully atrophied in a child, so they have greater access to higher mental faculties, can see higher dimensional images, etc.
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Re: Need info: Cartoon? Fairy? Angel? Alien? What is my kid seeing?
Excellent advice. Also, here's a picture Mikayla fairy.



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I would listen to her respectfully and I would pay attention to the 'quality' of the messages that the so called fairy is giving her. Under no circumstances I would dismiss her, or she will not say another word.
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Re: Need info: Cartoon? Fairy? Angel? Alien? What is my kid seeing?
oops
[link to www.distinctivenurseries.com]
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Re: Need info: Cartoon? Fairy? Angel? Alien? What is my kid seeing?
"If the girl is left handed, then you have to reverse the results."


And what if the person is ambidextrous like me?
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blackcat66: "If the girl is left handed, then you have to reverse the results."

I know what you're referring to here, but as far as I know that doesn't factor in to the reason why you look left or right. Whether you're left handed or right handed, the "creative" half and "logic" half are still on the same sides.

Left = creative and right = logic.
If you spell "old school" with a "k", you are not old school.
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My dad is ambidextrous and a 33rd degree Mason. I'm sure that means something?
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Re: Need info: Cartoon? Fairy? Angel? Alien? What is my kid seeing?
So left truth, right false.


Left = creative and right = logic.



Interesting.

I would think it would be opposite since the creative side brings the lie. However the logic side would point to the person trying to think logical so the other person believes in.
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Op- I think that you should pay attention and not dismiss your daughters claims. Don't allow your own fears to take over.

FWIW-London, Ontario- in SW Canada-nice city
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83493: "I would think it would be opposite since the creative side brings the lie."

The idea behind it is that you (almost involuntarily) look to the right when you engage the left half of the brain to come up with the answer, and vice versa.

I didn't come up with it, I'm just saying what I've heard about the theory :)
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"FWIW-London, Ontario- in SW Canada-nice city"


I'll be damned, it's a real place!

Hmmm.
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3160, believe your daughter. I'd bet she is telling the absolute truth.

Read about the etheric, astral and mental planes as described in Theosophical Society information.

There are many higher frequency "dimensions" above the physical. Kids like your daughter who are unusual don't have to subscribe to a belief system of what is "normal" so they can see at the etheric and astral level because their minds are not blocking what is there.
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She is a character in childrens decorations. Someone posted a link above.
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They may be real but not necessarily benevolant. Beware
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Amazing; the 2 titles of threads below were with yours in the first 4 threads.

We are all living in a neural interactive simulation. Details inside. The truth.

Awake and Dreaming at the Same Time
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Thanks for the input. I'll ask her to draw me a picture of this 'fairy' and see if it at all resembles that picture.
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hhmmm. She describes her as a little woman though. That is a bit odd. Perhaps she has a friend that has suggested something.
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Re: Need info: Cartoon? Fairy? Angel? Alien? What is my kid seeing?
London Ontario- known as the "forest city"-very beautiful city, obviously lots and lots of trees, parkland, river. Anything I've read about Fairies indicates that they can be found in these types of areas.

Just my 2 cents.
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The Fairy or Deva that said "Call me Pokey" visits sometimes and is protective of me.
No wings,sorry.One way of appearing is as an elfen type person with long hair,pointed features and a fixed grin. "Traditional" he explained.
Another was is as a will o the wisp.

The psychic said that it is "of a higher consciousness and has attached itself to John for some time now. a guardian,yes,but can also be most insistent in its urgings.Wishes John would 'get on with it'.
Like a pet on a tether,that would wish to lead on occassion. More than one incarnation with John as a horse.Some loyalty here."

It is quite funny sometimes but also scares me,he is so eerie. Can talk but doesn't much. Lately just giving me a horse-like chortle.
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if your child sees a one foot tall being,it is a Little and in disguise.
Leprechaun meaning ugly little man.
Can be nasty creatures and hurt you with their gadgets.
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Re: Need info: Cartoon? Fairy? Angel? Alien? What is my kid seeing?
OP...see if you can get more info from your daughter.

for example can she DRAW the visitor?

will the visitor answer questions from you, through her?

i highly doubt your daughter is making this up.

happens all throughout history.

its important she KNOWS you will believe her...she DID open up about it to you...
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I was visited a few times as a child myself,though my memory seems clouded.
I do remember being ringed by these "elves" laughing at me,saying "He thinks he can figure it all out!"

During the Incident they explained they came because "You were the unhappiest boy we ever saw" and the voices kept me company for about two or three days. Told me some bad and some good things about my future.
But it must be more to it than that. I think it has something to do with reincarnation.This life experiencing some atonement,yet never abandoned by these beings.
The apparitions overhead at work is testimony to that. They intend to show themselves to me publicly,that I was selected somehow.
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[link to seattlepi.nwsource.com]



In Iceland, spirits are in the material world

Many on island nation believe in other-worldly beings

Saturday, December 25, 1999

By COLIN NICKERSON
THE BOSTON GLOBE

HAFNARFJORDUR, Iceland -- This can be a tough country for blasting out a foundation or building a roadbed.

Never mind the boiling geysers, wind-blasted precipices or frozen barrens. It's not the razor-sharp lava rock that daunts builders; it's the hidden people lurking below.

"There are all sorts of beings beneath our stones," said Brynjolfur Snorrason, a folklorist often asked to advise contractors on how best to avoid the lairs of Iceland's elves and other seldom-seen creatures whose presence nonetheless still seems to permeate this far northern island nation.

Highway engineers in recent years have been forced to reroute roads around supposed elf dwellings. Similarly, builders of the country's first shopping mall took care to lay electrical cables and other underground installations well away from suspected abodes of gnomes and fairies. Couples planning a new house will sometimes hire "elf-spotters" to ensure the lot is free of spirit folk.

In Iceland, such precautions are seen as simple prudence.

"It can be a strange country," said Arni Bjornsson, head of ethnological studies at the National Museum of Iceland. "Even hard-headed engineers, who say they don't hold with superstition, will build a road around a certain hill or boulder rather than take the risk of offending elves."

Icelanders love to boast of how their beloved island republic marches in the front rank of modern times. Literacy is 100 percent. Poverty is zero. And high-technology is pervasive.

Iceland is the most geographically remote of Europe's nations -- a thinly populated realm of fire and ice rising from the North Atlantic, just below the Arctic Circle -- but it's plugged in, powered up and prosperous.

And also overrun with elves, gnomes, trolls, light-fairies, lovelings and a unique species called "huldufolk," or hidden people. Iceland even has a glut of 13 unjolly Santas, the so-called Yuletide Lads, who skulk about cities, towns and rural farmsteads each Christmas -- traditionally bringing more mayhem than merriment, although lately they've stopped stealing children.

The nation's president, Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, theorizes that the surfeit of spirit-beings stems from Icelanders' abiding sense of loneliness and isolation.

"Icelanders are few in number, so in the old times we doubled our population with tales of elves and fairies," he said in an interview at the presidential residence, Bessastadir, located on a remote moor where snow dervishes and sea spume whip over bizarrely shaped formations of lava rock.

Even today, there are only 273,000 people occupying a land roughly the size of Maine and Massachusetts. And Icelanders still take spirit folk seriously: Public opinion polls and academic studies show more than half of all inhabitants think it possible or probable -- 10 percent call it "certain" -- they share their island with otherly beings, ranging from grumpy glacier-dwelling trolls to occasionally gregarious hidden people.

That lore is the occasional bane of construction engineers and real estate developers. Earlier this year, Iceland's highway agency had to change the course of a new road leading out of Reykjavik after citizens protested that the original route would disturb an elf's lair under a big rock.

"There are people who believe in elves, and we try to show respect for people's beliefs," said Viktor Ingolfsson, an official of the department. "If that means building around an elf stone, we try to accommodate."

Such broadmindedness might be just self-protection. Tales abound of broken limbs, busted equipment and other woes befalling builders daring to go where elves and hidden people traditionally tread.

"For the most part, huldufolk are harmless, even gentle beings," said Magnus Skarphedinsson, a schoolteacher and self-described elf expert. "But if you brutalize them, bad things will happen. Perhaps only that your project will have big cost overruns. But also you could fall from a disease. Or die. It can be very dangerous to bother elves."

There are skeptics, of course, the National Museum's Bjornsson among them: "Hidden folk have provided a wonderful excuse for clumsy workers: 'I didn't wreck that bulldozer, boss, an elf did it!'"

Bjornsson, one of Iceland's foremost experts in folklore, called himself a disbeliever, adding quickly: "But not entirely, not 100 percent. It is hard to be totally scientific in a country as spectacularly strange as ours."

Iceland was first settled in the late ninth century A.D. by Vikings from Norway and smaller numbers of Gaels from the British islands. They found an eerie, treeless wasteland still in the first throes of creation -- with vast billows of steam hissing from geothermal vents, volcanos spouting fire and new islets heaving into existence off the boulder-strewn shores.

Iceland remains a land in extraordinary natural flux. And its prosperity is very recent: Until this century, most Icelanders were impoverished sheep farmers or fishermen huddled in damp turf homes. The population was regularly -- and heavily -- culled by famine, plague and Earth cataclysms.

The rarely seen races populating Iceland are said to include elves, gnomes, light-fairies -- sisters to Tinkerbell -- dwarves, lovelings (slender wee creatures inhabiting hedgerows) and mountain spirits. Most of these have counterparts in the folklore of other lands. But Iceland's huldufolk, or hidden people, are a unique breed: Human-sized, highly sociable beings dressed in colorful costume, seeming to inhabit a sort of parallel universe.

"But sometimes they will invite humans to their cliff homes for a chat and pancakes," Skarphedinsson said.

Inevitably, perhaps, there's been an attempt by some entrepreneuring Icelanders to cash in on the elves. Tourist agencies flog "hidden world" maps purporting to show locations of elf homes. Guided tours of elfdom are also on offer. All this is less troubling to folklore purists than attempts to revise Iceland's spirit people to make them seem more correct and wholesome.

A prime example is what's become of the Yuletide Lads. Originally, these 13 creatures were nasty sons of the ogress Gryla, sent forth on dark winter nights to steal children for her stewpot. Then, earlier in this century, they were downgraded to less scary mischief-makers, leaving rotten potatoes in the shoes of bad children at Christmastime, but ignoring the good.

These days they are portrayed as rascally but cute gift-bringers fitted out in wool coats and red caps, and soon to be celebrated on Icelandic postage stamps.

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:zkk_exanis: Your Child will be fine!





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