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Why NDEs are more than hallucinations, and connecting the dots revealing a single coherent reality

 
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OP: 'But can't actually provide any evidence.'

I don't need to provide evidence to back up your claims. Good luck with your theories.
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OP: 'But can't actually provide any evidence.'

I don't need to provide evidence to back up your claims. Good luck with your theories.
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In other words, you like most, are lying and have no evidence to support your views, which you claim you have.

The only thing close to being 'scientific' evidence, that negates what I'm sharing, is a discovery that the stimulation of the angular gyrus (a part of the brain), emulates an OBE.

However, even then, for this study, participants failed to have a life review, which are typical in NDEs.

Also, participants, in this study, failed to come across any veridical information.

And participants, failed to have any miraculous healings, which occurred for some NDEs, or when Jesus materialized to the people. The latter occurred, when the person was fully awake. Not even the one and only scientific peer reviewed journal, that covers NDEs, are able to explain, or even mentions this latter phenomenon.
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Dear OP, thanks for sharing.
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Dear OP, thanks for sharing.
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Your welcome hf
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OP: 'And participants, failed to have any miraculous healings, which occurred for some NDEs, or when Jesus materialized to the people.'

I have to prove something to you?

Please empirically explain who this character, 'jesus' is. Can you produce him as evidence of your claims? You make wild claims that this person appears to people. I don't believe it. Prove it.

An alternative theory to your whole premise (and life devotion) is that this person is not a person at all. It sounds as if you are twisting the appearances of archetypal beings into a theory that is not substantiated by science.

Good luck with this line of reasoning.
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Re: Why NDEs are more than hallucinations, and connecting the dots revealing a single coherent reality
OP: 'And participants, failed to have any miraculous healings, which occurred for some NDEs, or when Jesus materialized to the people.'

I have to prove something to you?

Please empirically explain who this character, 'jesus' is. Can you produce him as evidence of your claims? You make wild claims that this person appears to people. I don't believe it. Prove it.

An alternative theory to your whole premise (and life devotion) is that this person is not a person at all. It sounds as if you are twisting the appearances of archetypal beings into a theory that is not substantiated by science.

Good luck with this line of reasoning.
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Inversely, where's the 'empircal' evidence, which you claimed to have, to disprove my assumptions.

I never once mentioned, there's 'empirical' evidence, to support my views. You however, claimed to have 'empirical' evidence to discredit my assumption, which I know is false, since this would for example, require making someone 'clinically dead' to reproduce the NDE.

Anyone, who actually knows about scientific experiments, would know, due to ethical reasons, this would not be allowed.

Due to this, the next, best source of evidence, are case studies.
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OP: 'Inversely, where's the 'empircal' evidence, which you claimed to have, to disprove my assumptions.'

Again, I don't need to disprove any assumptions on your part. You need to prove your theory, apparently against empirical evidence (I'd like to see that). That's how science works. I don't need to provide the empirical evidence you're trying to refute with your theory. It has already been provided, hence my use of the term, empirical evidence.
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OP: 'Inversely, where's the 'empircal' evidence, which you claimed to have, to disprove my assumptions.'

Again, I don't need to disprove any assumptions on your part. You need to prove your theory, apparently against empirical evidence (I'd like to see that). That's how science works. I don't need to provide the empirical evidence you're trying to refute with your theory. It has already been provided, hence my use of the term, empirical evidence.
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You have not provided any 'empirical evidence' to refute what I'm stating.

You have only claimed it exists, which I already know is false, and that you're lying.

Good luck, with your lies. Maybe someone, who doesn't ask follow-up questions, or doesn't know any better, may think your honest and semi-intelligent.
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Re: Why NDEs are more than hallucinations, and connecting the dots revealing a single coherent reality
As someone who used to love NDEs, I am sorry to say this, but the depictions of hell are sadistic and untrue, from what I have found... God is not going to torture people forever. Bible clearly says evil people are destroyed, not kept around.

Bible also very clear that we sleep when we die.

The idea that we can do any evil here and judge ourselves also seems very new age and unfair.

PLUS: tptb have the tech to fake the whole thing:

[link to www.educate-yourself.org]

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