"A World Where Everyone Is Equal" ... What a Stupid Idea -_-

Equal in opportunities, yes.

Basically, the essence of being human is to strive to be better than others


I coulnd't read past this part.






You and this thread have failed, my child.

A centralized power structure exists to become corrupt and stagnant. It's inevitable.

The government is busy making laws and conforming to agendas that it has no business being involved in. Humanity wasn't meant to be governed like this. It's going to get people killed.

It always does.

Well, what i said is true.... but maybe you misunderstood what i meant.

Sure. But to have equal opportunities you have to improve yourself to be able to have the same level of abilities or better abilities than other person

Yes ... a world without corruption would be the right thing to want ... but not equality.

I think what is meant by equality is that everyone has the same rights and opportunities as everyone else, what you do with those is up to the individual.

Like giving women the right to vote made them "equal" to men in that regard.

Last Edited by HI.Lander on 05/20/2013 06:27 PM

Maybe youre just retarded op, i dont think any of us are quite sure. Youre basically trying to say the meaning of life is to be better than others, well thats just a retarded statement.

I personally try to better myself and or others, We arent here to dominate each other, we are here to better our civilization as a whole. If everyone was equal in every way, the populace would focus on creating a better output for the whole and not the individual.

Well yes... that kind of equality is needed ...... but for example economic equality would be a disaster .....

this is the correct answer, but many maniacs want to force everyone into being equal. they dont believe there are lazy people and everyone should all things equally.

Economic equality means countries arent fighting over oil and land and weapons and gold and etc etc...The world would grow as a whole. (individual) Oh i love bacon, dude i only got 4 pieces ill give you one. (whole) Yo you want some bacon? You can have half, im full dude heres my other piece.

NO.... You do not know what you are talking about.

I didn't say we are here to dominate each other... What I meant was that we need a reason to improve ourselves and our surroundings

We obviously need laws. We need to follow certain rules.


We can't be economically equal .... The world wouldn't support us... The world population would have to be much lower ....

In an equal world people wouldn't do hard jobs like construction, farming, things under the hot sun, the trash men, etc etc etc ....

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Technological advances would suffer greatly. .... A lot of people study very very hard to reach certain things ... they want to be admired,.... a role model ...

In an equal world we wouldn't have role models so people wouldn't really work too hard in college... they would probably study other things



ETC ETC ETC,,,,

An equal world wouldn't be a nice world...

Obviously, equal rights are ok .... rights like voting and stuff like that....

Absolute capitalism or taking more power than you give to sustain your existence is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain your existence.

Responsible capitalism or sharing power as equally as possible to sustain your existence is the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to sustain your existence.

One is the dumb or animal way and one is the smart or human being way.

Last Edited by Hypertiger on 05/20/2013 06:47 PM

Sure...

That's an utopia.

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If the whole continent of Africa for example had the same economic advantages we have the contamination would be much higher.... deforestation, food resources, destruction of important places, ..... etc etc

exactly

In my opinion a better world wouldn't be an equal world

A better world would be a place where there's no corruption and the strongest help the weakest.....

For example, we waste so much food... It is just retarded. We could help our poorer population and poorer countries if we just made better decision s when it comes to food.

I've seen in San Francisco places where restaurants and stores throw perfectly good food to the trash..... Like seriously good food.... Lots of totally edible vegetables and fruits. Sometimes they just throw bananas to the trashcans because they start to get black spots... They only want perfect fruits.

In many places they throw away the breads, donuts and other sweets everyday to make new ones the other day.

ETC ....

We could be helping so many people....

The essence of a primitive pack mammal is to strive to be better than others. The essence of an enlightened being is to strive to be better than one's former self.

Your username suggests you are female. Without the advancement of equality you would be nothing more than the property of a man, less than human. You have already hedged your original statement to describe this sort of equality as necessary. The fact that you have to arbitrarily redraw the line demonstrates the weakness of your original argument. So equality is bad, except when it benefits you?

As far as economic equality is concerned, we do not know what it's effects would be, since it has never happened, and human beings are quite unskilled at predicting the future. However, in a state of super-abundance, meaning in a society technologically advanced enough that all human desires could be readily fulfilled without the need for labor, does it not make sense that everyone should be able to have whatever they want, essentially making them all equal? So I would argue that economic equality is not necessarily bad. It depends on the circumstances.

Regarding technology, many of the most groundbreaking advances in science were made in the pursuit of pure knowledge, not profit. Einstein did not derive the equivalence of matter and energy in order to make a buck. Nor did Planck seek to strike it rich in defining the laws of quantum mechanics. Yet both of them redefined our understanding of the universe, and made possible technologies never dreamed of before their times. These men sought knowledge for its own sake, as do many others.

You should focus your energy on trying to lift up your self and others, not climbing to the top on the backs of others. Inequality is a fact, but viewing it in terms of better than or worse than is simplistic and limiting. Arguing that true equality is universally detrimental, when it has never occurred before, is ignorant conjecture.

We have here a bit of a semantic game.

Inequality and equality can be defined in some very different forms.

Becuase equality and inequality can be defined in any number of different ways, trying to respond to them requires us to be clear what forms we are speaking of.

The first sense of the word equality would be sameness. I would agree with the OP that sameness or equivalence is a horrid goal. Adam Smith, the founder of modern economics, would too.

Smith considered inequality in this sense to be one of the ten very good things about modern society.

However using the word inequality for this sense is a bit of a straw man argument. It is a mathematical sense of the word inequality and not a human one.

A better word for inequality in this sense would be the word diversity.

On the other hand we have the sense of equality of economic opportunity. We have no basis of knowing what a world of true economic equality would be like because the world has never even approximated such a state, nor is it in fact possible for us ever to do so.

Equality of that sort is an ideal, a utopian goal, but not a realizable state. However the fact that it is utopian does not mean that we should not try to reach it. We should try to do so, knowing full well we will never succeed. That drive is what makes the weak try to better themselves and it is the same effort toward reaching that goal that will encourage the strong to help the weak as well.

It is incidentally demonstrably not true that in an equal society noone would do difficult or laborious tasks. Some individuals prefer such work directly.

Finally we have the sense of equality of treatment by the law and respect by the populace.

In this last sense equality should be mandatory, not considered optional.

Furthermore, it is primarily in this last sense that most who try to foster equality actually mean the word.

Last Edited by Falerin on 05/31/2013 10:13 AM

Economic equality means everybody is equally poor except the masters.

an educated world. indeed stupid.

"Without the advancement of equality you would be nothing more than the property of a man, less than human."

Jewish liberal feminist garbage. ^^^^

Fools like you believe it's horrible to stay home and raise children - every woman needs to be a cop, soldier, or lying attorney. Talk about degrading women.

NOPE. The Soviets tried that approach, the Chinese tried.... lot's tried, ALL failed.

Socialism is the philosphy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill.
Hate to break into your delusion but I ain't gonna work my tail off while you sit on yours...........everyone ends up slacking because no one wants to waste their energy working for rewards that someone else will get. Sorry dahling.....
Humans are pretty selfish and that's fine.

Who are you responding to?? Not the OP obviously. Nothing she said was against anyone getting an education......
But if everyone had a Masters Degree then they would become irrelevent in the real world......................

Basically being a human is to act in human ways. To help when help is needed, to be friendly but just, not lying, not backtalking, to respect nature and all beings, to help mankind, to live in symbiosis with nature, not walking on others shoes, find a purposefully living. Yes it is just like in jungle, when someone hits U in the right chin when U haven't done anything wrong, then turn your left chin and have balls to be an antichrist.

Human equality is a myth. No two things on earth are equal or have an equal chance. The mistake we make is equating equality with personal value. The closest humans can come is equality under the law. I rob a bank, and you rob a bank. We both go to prison. THAT is equality.