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El Tiburon User ID: 28375544 United States 05/21/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Want HER ASS ARRESTED IF SHE PLEAS THE 5th. Quoting: El Tiburon The 5th is a protection you have IF you have broken the law. Her taking the 5th IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT! Taking the fifth is for anytime. My lawyer told me always take the fifth when being questioned by the police. They will use info against you. Taking the fifth is not only for guilty people. But it certainly makes one LOOK as though they're associated with some criminal activity, doesn't it? Could things escalate from reasonable suspicion to probable cause? The reality is most politicians are immune to the Saturnian legal system which has granted them 'liberty' from itself. But lesser minions? Hmmmm... They're the fall folks. I know that the 5th does not distinctly imply guilt. But, as the police would say.... if you have nothing to hide, why won't you talk to us? |
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Torchbearer (OP) User ID: 39505354 United States 05/21/2013 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One question I have is ... WHY would some underlings at the IRS go out of their way to target any particular group of individuals when that type of blatant abuse of power and authority could cost them their job ? This whole affair stinks to high heaven . The only credible explanation is that these workers WERE INSTRUCTED to target conservative groups for abusive treatment BY THEIR SUPERIORS after THOSE persons were instructed by THOSE AT THE VERY TOP !!! |
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THE WORDSMITH User ID: 37584498 United States 05/21/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ha ha... we already know they are all criminals... either through action or inaction... Quoting: THE WORDSMITH GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY !!! I finally gave the Comedian the clap... Made that myself... with my Red Paint Can.... Last Edited by The Wordsmith on 05/21/2013 10:40 PM |
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THE WORDSMITH User ID: 37584498 United States 05/21/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the one that has already claimed on the record that the targeting was NOT done for political reasons... So... we ALL know that's not true.... So.... we now can say... without a doubt...that this woman is a fucking liar. I don't want her on the stand... she would lie anyways... lock her away in prison. Last Edited by The Wordsmith on 05/21/2013 10:38 PM |
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Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 05/21/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though she is most assuredly NOT innocent, don't forget that pleading the fifth doesn't immediately make one guilty. Quoting: sauron 40255627 Even corrupt manipulated WIKIPEDIA says it accurately......... (for now until some Obamabot modifies it) "To "plead the Fifth" is to refuse to answer a question because the response could provide self-incriminating evidence of an illegal act punishable by fines, penalties or forfeiture" [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 05/21/2013 11:00 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40160914 United States 05/21/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There should be a law that if a federal employee invokes the 5th in front of Congress, they are immediately terminated and lose all retirement and other benefits. Shameful that OUR employee won't answer our questions. |
JasmineinNM User ID: 15256858 United States 05/21/2013 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American people are not allowed to take use the 5th to avoid incriminating themselves during an IRS audit or in their kangaroo courts, but wow, IRS agents get to use the 5th when their ass is being questioned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35671665 How do you like that America? Had enough yet? That is my question too. Haven't you ALL HAD ENOUGH YET???????? AREN'T YOU SICK OF THIS GOVERNMENT YET? YET?/ YET????? |
Torchbearer (OP) User ID: 39505354 United States 05/21/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the presidential election cycle. This is violation of federal law and abridges the right to free speech. These conservative groups who were unfairly singled out have a case for a complaint of denial of their CIVIL RIGHTS !!! "Beginning in March 2010, the IRS engaged in an unprecedented campaign of harassment against conservative groups, either through denials or delays in approving their tax-exempt-status applications, or through endless and burdensome audits. In notable contrast, liberal and "progressive" organizations got approvals with remarkable speed. The most conspicuous example involves the Barack H. Obama Foundation, which was approved as tax exempt within a month by the then-head of the IRS tax-exempt branch, Lois Lerner. From media reports and firsthand accounts, we also know that the IRS disproportionately audited donors to conservative causes and leaked confidential tax information concerning conservative groups in violation of federal law. This IRS politicization is not an isolated problem. It is an inevitable result of the broader efforts to regulate and, in fact, suppress political speech." [link to online.wsj.com] Last Edited by Torchbearer on 05/21/2013 11:20 PM |
M*walk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 1067150 United States 05/21/2013 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama administration has subverted the IRS for political advantage in Quoting: Torchbearer the presidential election cycle. This is violation of federal law and abridges the right to free speech. These conservative groups who were unfairly singled out have a case for a complaint of denial of their CIVIL RIGHTS !!! "Beginning in March 2010, the IRS engaged in an unprecedented campaign of harassment against conservative groups, either through denials or delays in approving their tax-exempt-status applications, or through endless and burdensome audits. In notable contrast, liberal and "progressive" organizations got approvals with remarkable speed. The most conspicuous example involves the Barack H. Obama Foundation, which was approved as tax exempt within a month by the then-head of the IRS tax-exempt branch, Lois Lerner. From media reports and firsthand accounts, we also know that the IRS disproportionately audited donors to conservative causes and leaked confidential tax information concerning conservative groups in violation of federal law. This IRS politicization is not an isolated problem. It is an inevitable result of the broader efforts to regulate and, in fact, suppress political speech." “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213727 United States 05/21/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Want HER ASS ARRESTED IF SHE PLEAS THE 5th. Quoting: El Tiburon The 5th is a protection you have IF you have broken the law. Her taking the 5th IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT! Taking the fifth is for anytime. My lawyer told me always take the fifth when being questioned by the police. They will use info against you. Taking the fifth is not only for guilty people. But it certainly makes one LOOK as though they're associated with some criminal activity, doesn't it? Could things escalate from reasonable suspicion to probable cause? The reality is most politicians are immune to the Saturnian legal system which has granted them 'liberty' from itself. But lesser minions? Hmmmm... They're the fall folks. I know that the 5th does not distinctly imply guilt. But, as the police would say.... if you have nothing to hide, why won't you talk to us? didn't Obammie also say well, if you have nothing to hide! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25658088 United States 05/21/2013 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting !!! So what did she know, and when did she know it ? Quoting: Torchbearer And what about Mr. Obama ??? Will he plead the FIfth also ? ( < 50% rule observed ) Top IRS official will invoke the Fifth Amendment in congressional hearing about tea party targeting program By DAVID MARTOSKO PUBLISHED: 16:14 EST, 21 May 2013 | UPDATED: 16:51 EST, 21 May 2013 Comments (145) Share The Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday afternoon that Lois Lerner, who heads up the Internal Revenue Service's tax-exempt division, plans to invoke the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in a hearing Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Affairs. The Fifth Amendment provides that U.S. citizens may not be compelled to offer testimony if telling the truth would incriminate them. Lerner's defense lawyer, William W. Taylor III, wrote to the committee on Tuesday that his client would refuse to answer questions related to what she knew about the extra levels of scrutiny applied to conservative nonprofit organizations that applied for tax-exempt status beginning in 2010. Lois Lerner heads the IRS's Exempt Organizations division. Her lawyer says she will plead the Fifth Amendment on Wednesday to avoid answering questions about her agency's tea party scandal during a congressional hearing IRS headquarters in Washington, D.C. is fast becoming the epicenter of the tea party probe, despite an Inspector General report that focused on employees in Cincinnati, Ohio She also will decline to say why she didn’t disclose what she knew to Congress, according to the LA Times. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook She pleads the 5th, but does she give a fuck about the 2nd and the rest??? |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 05/21/2013 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting !!! So what did she know, and when did she know it ? Quoting: Torchbearer And what about Mr. Obama ??? Will he plead the FIfth also ? ( < 50% rule observed ) Top IRS official will invoke the Fifth Amendment in congressional hearing about tea party targeting program By DAVID MARTOSKO PUBLISHED: 16:14 EST, 21 May 2013 | UPDATED: 16:51 EST, 21 May 2013 Comments (145) Share The Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday afternoon that Lois Lerner, who heads up the Internal Revenue Service's tax-exempt division, plans to invoke the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in a hearing Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Affairs. The Fifth Amendment provides that U.S. citizens may not be compelled to offer testimony if telling the truth would incriminate them. Lerner's defense lawyer, William W. Taylor III, wrote to the committee on Tuesday that his client would refuse to answer questions related to what she knew about the extra levels of scrutiny applied to conservative nonprofit organizations that applied for tax-exempt status beginning in 2010. Lois Lerner heads the IRS's Exempt Organizations division. Her lawyer says she will plead the Fifth Amendment on Wednesday to avoid answering questions about her agency's tea party scandal during a congressional hearing IRS headquarters in Washington, D.C. is fast becoming the epicenter of the tea party probe, despite an Inspector General report that focused on employees in Cincinnati, Ohio She also will decline to say why she didn’t disclose what she knew to Congress, according to the LA Times. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook She pleads the 5th, but does she give a fuck about the 2nd and the rest??? If they ignore the FIRST AMENDMENT....the FIFTH AMENDMENT should be NULL AND VOID for them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39882326 Mexico 05/21/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Want HER ASS ARRESTED IF SHE PLEAS THE 5th. Quoting: El Tiburon The 5th is a protection you have IF you have broken the law. Her taking the 5th IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT! If you have knowingly participated in public affairs and committed an act of crime, then you have the constitutional right to invoke the fifth amendment my friend, just as any US citizen has the right to bear arms under the 2nd amendment. However, in doing so, said person should at the same time, step down from their position of privilege and have no more further opportunity to work in the public sector, suggestng that either academia, or the private sector should embrace it's latest fallen angel (no doubt revering that person as a hero/martyr, until such time as the entire house of cards collapses)...... The mere resignation from public office should quell thine beating heart, and, under the constitutional oath which ye have taken, -ye are bound, and shall accept - neigh, be held accountable, for the safe passage and transit of that individual, group, institution or society, which you so vehemently abhorr, until they dost reach their place of sanctuary - lest you mock the right of every god fearing american that stands aside ye and the contract which you agreed to upheld.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29938024 United States 05/22/2013 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real scandal is that the IRS- and its sponsoring agency for which it collects taxes- has always been ILLEGAL to start with. It is a slush fund for the international bailout bankster cabal. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Torchbearer (OP) User ID: 39505354 United States 05/22/2013 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IRS officials ...guilty of lying to Congress..... OBFusCATION Officers !!! "Republicans blast IRS for keeping scandal quiet, seek names of those responsible Published May 17, 2013 | FoxNews.com Republican lawmakers accused IRS officials Friday of "lying" to members of Congress about the targeting of conservative groups, as they grilled the outgoing commissioner in the first hearing on the scandal. They also got no answers as they sought the names of those responsible. Lawmakers repeatedly confronted Steven Miller -- the acting commissioner ousted from him job earlier this week -- about his and other officials' failure to disclose the program last year despite being aware of it. "In fact, we were repeatedly told no such targeting was happening. That isn't being misled, that's lying," said Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. Yet Miller seemed to frustrate lawmakers' attempts to dig deeper. He claimed, a week after the scandal broke and a year after he first learned of the practice, that he still did not know who was responsible. "I don't have that name," he testified, after Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Wash., asked who was behind the program. Reichert accused Miller of being "uncooperative during this hearing." [link to nation.foxnews.com] Last Edited by Torchbearer on 05/22/2013 12:16 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36842606 United States 05/22/2013 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Want HER ASS ARRESTED IF SHE PLEAS THE 5th. Quoting: El Tiburon The 5th is a protection you have IF you have broken the law. Her taking the 5th IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT! Taking the fifth is for anytime. My lawyer told me always take the fifth when being questioned by the police. They will use info against you. Taking the fifth is not only for guilty people. But it certainly makes one LOOK as though they're associated with some criminal activity, doesn't it? Could things escalate from reasonable suspicion to probable cause? The reality is most politicians are immune to the Saturnian legal system which has granted them 'liberty' from itself. But lesser minions? Hmmmm... They're the fall folks. It forces police to do their job and keeps them from presuming guilt before innocence ... which is exactly what you presume they should do ... Enforcing your rights is not reasonable suspicion ... It just means the ivestigator should do his job and actually investigate if a crime has occured ... keywords are investigate and evidence ... |