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McSquire (OP) User ID: 36741551 United Kingdom 05/22/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know we all knew abou the e-cat along time ago. But this seems like its breaking into the main stream. I got this article from my fav tech website [link to www.extremetech.com] Last Edited by McSquire on 05/22/2013 04:51 PM |
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Dieseldrinker User ID: 40180015 Italy 05/22/2013 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I do smell the actual scientific report on Cornell University preprint archive website ArXiv appears to have been written by real professors, who I doubt want to be associated with fraud. [link to arxiv.org] I hope it's not true, or I'll have to find a different job. |
McSquire (OP) User ID: 36741551 United Kingdom 05/22/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I do smell the actual scientific report on Cornell University preprint archive website ArXiv appears to have been written by real professors, who I doubt want to be associated with fraud. Quoting: Dieseldrinker 40180015 [link to arxiv.org] I hope it's not true, or I'll have to find a different job. Even sceptics are coming round . This where the scientific community start to shift. This conforms to CofE and could change the world. We will all be earning equivalent to £50k per year for 2 day weeks if this is true. Last Edited by McSquire on 05/22/2013 05:26 PM |
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Dieseldrinker User ID: 40180015 Italy 05/22/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Temperature measurements in the report are weird (they have been made with thermal camera) so I think that most semi-competent people won't take this seriously, regardless if it's about cold fusion or whatever. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4419164 United Kingdom 05/22/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I posted a thread titled "This Changes Everything" recently on this. Sad to see that the other shit in the world is overshadowing the topic. The emissivity of materials in this case is not an issue in terms of the conclusion. "Free" energy. The fuel is nickel, it transmutates into copper eventually, with no harmful radiation. It is going to change everything. Imagine an eggcup of dirt-cheap nickel powder providing all your home's energy for a year - it's that kind of thing. Of course people are entitled to doubt the result. Let 'em. One test is reported to have ended when the reaction overran, melting the device's steel container on about 800W of power input. Kind of makes the measurement equipment redundant - who needs it when the reaction causes this 'anomaly'? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23829721 United States 05/22/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont get too excited. Read the story. It really hasnt been verified independently. Rossi wouldnt allow the scientists near the thing to see how it works. Also Rossi has a long history of scams and crimes. Hes a scam artist, plain and simple. Given the fact that he has scammed people before with energy machines, what do you think the chances of this being real are? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27809228 United States 05/22/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's already too well known. Rossi probably has redundant copies of the design of his device stored on flash drives all over the world now. Closing the gap on Free Energy is the essential leap mankind needs to make to progress through the 21st Century without great incident. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4419164 United Kingdom 05/22/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's already too well known. Rossi probably has redundant copies of the design of his device stored on flash drives all over the world now. Closing the gap on Free Energy is the essential leap mankind needs to make to progress through the 21st Century without great incident. Spot on. If real, it can't be stopped and it changes everything. Let's be positive about the fact that 4 scientists have put their balls on the line testing this black box prototype. |
Dieseldrinker User ID: 40180015 Italy 05/22/2013 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More than 4 scientists, actually. In the acknowledgements section of the PDF file there also are: David Bianchini M.Sc. Prof. Ennio Bonetti (Bologna University) Pierre Clauzon, M.Eng. (CNAM-CEA Paris) Prof. Loris Ferrari (Bologna University) Laura Patrizii, Ph.D. (INFN) Prof. Em. Sven Kullander and Prof. Björn Gålnander (Uppsala University) Prof. Em. Sergio Focardi (Bologna University) Prof. Em. Hidetsugu Ikegami (Osaka University) And also: ELFORSK AB, for the Swedish participation in the E-Cat test experiment Which looks like it's a swedish power company: [link to www.elforsk.se] Unless they're all (every single name) in the scam or deluded, it seems there might be something here. I didn't really expect this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4419164 United Kingdom 05/22/2013 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More than 4 scientists, actually. In the acknowledgements section of the PDF file there also are: Quoting: Dieseldrinker 40180015 David Bianchini M.Sc. Prof. Ennio Bonetti (Bologna University) Pierre Clauzon, M.Eng. (CNAM-CEA Paris) Prof. Loris Ferrari (Bologna University) Laura Patrizii, Ph.D. (INFN) Prof. Em. Sven Kullander and Prof. Björn Gålnander (Uppsala University) Prof. Em. Sergio Focardi (Bologna University) Prof. Em. Hidetsugu Ikegami (Osaka University) And also: ELFORSK AB, for the Swedish participation in the E-Cat test experiment Which looks like it's a swedish power company: [link to www.elforsk.se] Unless they're all (every single name) in the scam or deluded, it seems there might be something here. I didn't really expect this. I think the Swedes will have it to market effectively before the rest of us for this reason. Skeptics seem to run wild on this. Apart from explaining the "errors" in methodology using textbook theories that are cleary unfit, the complaint about use of IR cameras is quite daft - I use them for my job and anyone capable of reading the manual,let alone a trained team of scientists, can understand and avoid false readings. Basically, if the surface is shiny, you can't get reliable data easily. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4419164 United Kingdom 05/22/2013 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about hooking the device to a heat exchanger in order to raise the temperature of a large tank of water? Much more straightforward and cheaper than using a good thermal camera. Quoting: Dieseldrinker 40180015 No need. The report speaks for itself. Don't sweat the details - they are saying it is real, powerful, repeatable, and unexplained by current theory. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28061965 Australia 05/22/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont get too excited. Read the story. It really hasnt been verified independently. Rossi wouldnt allow the scientists near the thing to see how it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23829721 Also Rossi has a long history of scams and crimes. Hes a scam artist, plain and simple. Given the fact that he has scammed people before with energy machines, what do you think the chances of this being real are? Rossi was not involved in this test, where does the story say he was. Have you read the associated and linked pdf file on the tests. I'm guessing others will want to test it now, if only to debunk it. More testing can only be a good thing at this point whatever the result. |
PunkSmasher User ID: 38982770 United States 05/22/2013 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like cold fusion is real but they don't know how it works, and they can't reproduce it consistantly, so it's just not reliable or useful yet. What's probably happening is the palladium crystal lattice is vibrating and it hits just the right frequency that the atoms smash the hydrogen atoms inside the structure. It's probably hard to get the palladium perfectly crystalline and to vibrate uniformly and for the hydrogen to feed into the lattice uniformly. Last Edited by Protagonist on 05/22/2013 09:47 PM |
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