Will we experience the *Rapture* like the *Apostle Paul* What exactly did Saul experience on the road to Damascus?

SO WHAT DO WE KNOW:

THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS CAUGHT UP WITH JESUS CHRIST
THE DEAD WILL BE CAUGHT UP WITH JESUS CHRIST
THE CHURCH WILL BE CAUGHT UP WITH JESUS CHRIST.


IF WE ARE STRUCK BY LIGHTNING WE KNOW ONE THING, WE WILL HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE....


1st Corinthians 15:52

in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

1st Thessolonains 4:15

I am not sure of the exact way that it will occur. I just know it will.

He didn't experience ANYTHING. He was a "plant" from the beginning. His job was to infiltrate and take over the Christian movement, which he did.

People just forget how horribly he persecuted the Christians back then. That didn't work, so they made a new plan which did.

Most of his letters in the New Testament show what an arrogant, self-centered, "holier-than-thou" hypocrite he really was.

Jesus' brother was the ONE who was appointed to take over the followers if anything happened to Jesus.

I'm sorry, but I just had to vent !!!

Irish is saying paul is full of

Read Protestant Kevin Barrett's messages. Jesus over and over states the
Rapture is a lie. Jesus is correcting the heresies. Another one especially,
Faith Alone.

[link to www.hearhisheart.wordpress.com]

The Damascus moment is coming for the entire world. It is the prophesied
Great Warning, Protestants hear it called the "awakening." Read Revelation
6:15-17 and 1 Cor 3:13.

From biblegateway.com KJV1Thessalonians4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Sounds like Paul plans on being among the living at the parousia doesn't it? Does he return to endure through the great tribulation and then be called up with a multitude that is already brought up in the clouds per Revelation 7? The seventh trumpet and the announcing of the Kingdom with the first resurrection seems to be the event he claims to be part of.

biblegateway.com KJV Luke 9:27 But I tell you a truth, there be some standing here, who shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Are there some dark ones walking among us who have not died from the time Christ was on this earth until now?

Matthew 27:51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Notice they arose, but they did not come out of the graves until Christ resurrection which was three days later.
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Where did these saints go?
Wasn't this the start of the first resurrection?
Revelation 20:4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Are the saints who got out of the tombs at Christ' resurrection part of this group and are they walking among us today? Paul thinks he is alive at the second coming. Is he resurrected already on this earth in the endtimes?

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yes that is puzzling to me
because Jesus bore witness to himself so the witness is not true.
Jesus claimed that he was god's son
but how can we prove that?
when god himself always stated that he is alone ? and has no sons?

God spoke twice in the Old Testament many times. First it was through the curse in the natural and second in the spirit. Peter recognized this at Caesar Philippi. Christ was the only perfect bridge in the natural to the incorruptible spirit of God to end sacrifice and fulfill the law. The direction connection is made through him. Christ is the truth, the life and the way.

As a person in sinful flesh two witnesses are required for confirmation in the truth of Christ. From biblehub.com KJVMatthew 18:20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. KJV 2Corinthians13:1This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. KJV 1Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

Even two witnesses will prophesy in the last 1260 days of the great tribulation.

No he didn't. Do you not remember when the people witnesses the holy spirit descending from the cloud and God saying this is my son. Also, John the Baptist prophesied Jesus's coming.

Fixed.

its going to happen the day i take my last breath and release it.. then all mine fly up with me..

or it is a total deception and its not going to happen at all given it already did happen and was given away to the enemies in december of 2005.. that being said.. when and if its your turn to make it into my kingdom you will make it.. dont believe in fancy tales of rapture and so on.. for i am here in the underworlds amongst you all myself and have no intent of going too far away any time soon so there you have it straight from the horses mouth^

Nice one, something telling me that this pope knows the antichrist without his knowledge being under his control. Soon the antichrist will make a drama with fear in the vatican to impressed tptb freemason.

Just like the butler's and the guard's in the vatican who are also under one of freemason soon to be antichrist.

"45 degree, the sky will burn"

45 - Prince of Jerusalem freemason order?. Then this antichrist will be unstoppable and surmount tptb through guise, and that when America and western "public's treasuries emptied on land and sea".

Imagine the turmoils and strifes..

This is a joke I hope. This is why TPTB have dengerous flaws waiting to happen. One the antichrist knows very well.

I don't post on the pehjeshuah thread anymore, but you should use the confirmation of two witnesses against his lies. You cannot have one witness without the confirmation and completion of the works of the other one or two present. If tongues, then there is an interpreter. If there is a prophet, then there is also a judge.
From biblegateway.com KJV Revelation 11:3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Where is the sackcloth and ashes? There is a little problem with length of the commissioning - 1260 days. Is that already passed? Where does one prophesy and the other confirm the presence of Christ with the accompanying judgment?
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. Where are the supernatural works?
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.This is a literal in the flesh event on earth. It is not symbolism and not confined to the spiritual because they died, and we know from 1Corinthians15 that the spirit is incorruptible and does not die.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.Resurrected bodies are called up to Heaven.

As a person in sinful flesh two witnesses are required for confirmation in the truth of Christ. From biblehub.com KJVMatthew 18:20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. KJV 2Corinthians13:1This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. KJV 1Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. Clearly there is a failure to don sackcloth, and prophesy and judge in tandem in the flesh. It is not done from the incorruptible side in testimony nor can it be an angel due to that. They are mortal and have been overcome and killed by the beast from the pit. Game over for anyone who tells lies outside of what scripture dictates.

Yeah thanks. I really shouldn't be on it myself but sometimes I cannot resist.

The Rapture is what all believers experience when the finally leave the flesh meaning death..WHY? because Jesus overcame the grave and death..

You are in-correct about the Apostle Paul...As he said..he did not know if he was in the body or out..

SOUNDS LIKE HE COULD OF HAD A NDE...

I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know--God knows.

2nd Corinthians 12:2



WHERE ARE THE BELIEVERS NOW WHO HAVE DIED IN CHRIST??

1 Thessalonians 4:17
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.


The SPIRIT of the DEAD and the Ones still Alive will be caught up with Christ...


NOW OUR FLESH DOES NOT CHANGE UNTIL THIS SCRIPTURE:


1 Corinthians 15:52

in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Paul was not "raptured" and neither will selected Christians be. All will meet Christ when he very publicly returns to gather us.

Your answer, and proof positive that the Apostle Paul's writings, Letters are "Scripture" the the Testimony of the Apostle Peter himself. And how he points out the Foolishness of Paul Scoffers.

Peter and Paul (2 Peter 3:14-16)

14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and regard the patience of our Lord to be salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which THE UNTAUGHT AND UNSTABLE DISTORT, as they do also THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES, to their OWN DESTRUCTION. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest, being carried away by the ERROR OF UNPRINCIPLED MEN, you fall from your own steadfastness, 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

Now, it is time to eat humble pie, and ask the Lord forgiveness of your false teaching and testimony. OR remain hardheaded and hardhearted, in your unbelief. Always a choice...

Amazing thread! I could spend all day here!