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I had no idea! This really surprised me that the U.S. was the only country. Portugal and Austria have 35 combined vacation days and holidays guaranteed. That's five freakin weeks off. Nicely done Portugal and Austria!

Japan comes in second to last with 10 guaranteed vacation days. That's still 10 more than the U.S.

"Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off."

"So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich."


There's a really good chart in this article graphing the 21 richest countries in the world and where they stand. Quite staggering compared to the U.S.


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Here's the actual study which was conducted by the Center for Economic and Policy Research

[link to www.cepr.net]
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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So you're saying a little guaranteed R&R for the workforce in America is harmful? I'm not supporting more regulation, but I don't see how having zero time guaranteed to decompress from an already stressful job is "getting it right"
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In Australia full-time employees get 4 weeks paid holiday.

Casual workers get a higher hourly rate in lieu of holiday pay & sick day pay.
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I had no idea! This really surprised me that the U.S. was the only country. Portugal and Austria have 35 combined vacation days and holidays guaranteed. That's five freakin weeks off. Nicely done Portugal and Austria!

Japan comes in second to last with 10 guaranteed vacation days. That's still 10 more than the U.S.

"Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off."

"So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich."


There's a really good chart in this article graphing the 21 richest countries in the world and where they stand. Quite staggering compared to the U.S.


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It's called the THIRD WORLD. The US isn't really a developed nation as far as workers or human rights are concerned. Not really. And now the infrastructure is falling apart, well you know what's next. 5 years tops.
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move or get your ass back to work
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In Australia full-time employees get 4 weeks paid holiday.

Casual workers get a higher hourly rate in lieu of holiday pay & sick day pay.
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Yep, I see it on the graph. 20 paid vacation, 8 paid holiday guaranteed for Australia
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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I think you need to go and work in a Bengali sweat shop
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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So you're saying a little guaranteed R&R for the workforce in America is harmful? I'm not supporting more regulation, but I don't see how having zero time guaranteed to decompress from an already stressful job is "getting it right"
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WTF do you all do for a living? I've had paid holidays & vacation for decades!

Educate &/or improve yourself. There's only one person to blame for your situation....

YOURSELF!
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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and one more thing...apparently we do need govt regs to stop outputting idiots like you
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We our having our lives stolen by working every day.

We are only on this planet a short time, and we spend our most productive years working for goddamn pieces of paper or electronic bits of zeros and ones.

And for what? It's all completely pointless? Do we really need to be wasting our lives like this?
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Good, we don't need the government interfering in business. Every single government regulation only harms our economy, glad to hear America gets something right.
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So you're saying a little guaranteed R&R for the workforce in America is harmful? I'm not supporting more regulation, but I don't see how having zero time guaranteed to decompress from an already stressful job is "getting it right"
 Quoting: clovis


WTF do you all do for a living? I've had paid holidays & vacation for decades!

Educate &/or improve yourself. There's only one person to blame for your situation....

YOURSELF!
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Couldn't agree with that statement more. I'm not complaining, I have 4 weeks. I just thought it was surprising that the U.S. was the ONLY one. It made me think of those who are working less fortunate jobs. Where, in other countries, these lower wage jobs are still guaranteed some time off
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Good, at least we haven't already gone full retard.
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You relate working more days without vacation to working harder, that's a leap I'm not willing to make. Also poor people stuck in shit jobs need to shoulder some responsibility for that. It sucks that their years of laziness and bad choices left them stuck working at the 711 but if it's not sufficiently bad to motivate them to improve it's not sufficiently bad for the government to step in and fix it for them.
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Japan is surprising. I thought it would give less than the US. IIRC, they have a midnight rush hour over there.
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We our having our lives stolen by working every day.

We are only on this planet a short time, and we spend our most productive years working for goddamn pieces of paper or electronic bits of zeros and ones.

And for what? It's all completely pointless? Do we really need to be wasting our lives like this?
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bump
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America has a huge number on permanent paid vacation.
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You relate working more days without vacation to working harder, that's a leap I'm not willing to make. Also poor people stuck in shit jobs need to shoulder some responsibility for that. It sucks that their years of laziness and bad choices left them stuck working at the 711 but if it's not sufficiently bad to motivate them to improve it's not sufficiently bad for the government to step in and fix it for them.
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I see your perspective. Although, I don't think there's much proof to show that people who have vacation are working very hard either.

Also, I don't think everyone in a shit job is there because they lack in motivation. Folks graduating college are stuck in shit jobs and a lot of others with good experience are too.
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Here's the actual study which was conducted by the Center for Economic and Policy Research

[link to www.cepr.net]
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From the CEPR study

"United States law offers no guarantees of paid leave. The only exceptions are for government contractors and subcontractors covered under the Davis-Bacon Act."

What's the Davis-Bacon Act you ask?

From Wikipedia, "The Davis–Bacon Act of 1931 is a United States federal law that establishes the requirement for paying the local prevailing wages on public works projects. It applies to “contractors and subcontractors performing on federally funded or assisted contracts in excess of $2,000 for the construction, alteration, or repair (including painting and decorating) of public buildings or public works”

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We our having our lives stolen by working every day.

We are only on this planet a short time, and we spend our most productive years working for goddamn pieces of paper or electronic bits of zeros and ones.

And for what? It's all completely pointless? Do we really need to be wasting our lives like this?
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If your job is a waste of time you picked a piss poor job. I'm sorry you failed at life. You can't blame me, or your boss, or the system for that, you need to look in the mirror and blame yourself.

I gather from the fact that you think work is a waste of your life that you value yourself pretty highly. You shouldn't. You aren't special. Special people with value have jobs they love and do jobs that me a difference. You're like any random unhappy loser collecting carts in the parking lots.

The last few generations have been brainwashed to think they deserve a trophy for losing. You don't.
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You relate working more days without vacation to working harder, that's a leap I'm not willing to make. Also poor people stuck in shit jobs need to shoulder some responsibility for that. It sucks that their years of laziness and bad choices left them stuck working at the 711 but if it's not sufficiently bad to motivate them to improve it's not sufficiently bad for the government to step in and fix it for them.
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I see your perspective. Although, I don't think there's much proof to show that people who have vacation are working very hard either.

Also, I don't think everyone in a shit job is there because they lack in motivation. Folks graduating college are stuck in shit jobs and a lot of others with good experience are too.
 Quoting: clovis


Maybe it's not all motivation. Maybe it's the lack of discipline or the fear of sacrifice. Maybe it's the ego refusing to admit that they picked the wrong field or their experience isn't worth as much as they think it is.
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You relate working more days without vacation to working harder, that's a leap I'm not willing to make. Also poor people stuck in shit jobs need to shoulder some responsibility for that. It sucks that their years of laziness and bad choices left them stuck working at the 711 but if it's not sufficiently bad to motivate them to improve it's not sufficiently bad for the government to step in and fix it for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40305150


I see your perspective. Although, I don't think there's much proof to show that people who have vacation are working very hard either.

Also, I don't think everyone in a shit job is there because they lack in motivation. Folks graduating college are stuck in shit jobs and a lot of others with good experience are too.
 Quoting: clovis


Maybe it's not all motivation. Maybe it's the lack of discipline or the fear of sacrifice. Maybe it's the ego refusing to admit that they picked the wrong field or their experience isn't worth as much as they think it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40305150



So where did a lot of these deficiencies come from? They're a product of the system. You're acting like everything is completely fine and none of this is by design.

And for someone who claims to be a special person with value, working a job you love, you sure seem to carry a lot of hatred and anger. Are you really as happy as you think you are?

I just have too much love for all people to speak the way you are
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take the welfare money away from the mooches and give it to the workers for a vacation
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US workers have no freedom or rights, just dumb slaves who think they're better than the rest of the world.

US economy is nothing but handful of mega chain stores owned by globalist companies, they all work for Satanists and have to send their white teen daughters to go get work-raped by their black coworkers. And they love every minute of it, even their ridiculous mothers and fathers, they all got shit eating grins on their faces. Shit eater pride.
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I had no idea! This really surprised me that the U.S. was the only country. Portugal and Austria have 35 combined vacation days and holidays guaranteed. That's five freakin weeks off. Nicely done Portugal and Austria!

Japan comes in second to last with 10 guaranteed vacation days. That's still 10 more than the U.S.

"Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off."

"So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich."


There's a really good chart in this article graphing the 21 richest countries in the world and where they stand. Quite staggering compared to the U.S.


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 Quoting: clovis


Stay in school...
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but we have guns...
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For now....
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move or get your ass back to work
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are you fucking kidding me? why would anyone be against giving people a yearly break? wtf is wrong with you douchebags. damn you are fucking retarded.