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Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"

 
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Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
"His mother, Nancy Lanza, was found shot through her forehead by a .22-caliber rifle left in her second-floor bedroom." [link to www.cnn.com]

According to the search warrant, that rifle had three live rounds and one spent cartridge: [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Yet according to Carver, Nancy was shot four times in the head. How did Nancy receive three extra .22 rounds to her head by the time Carver or his staff performed her autopsy?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
Sorry, that's today's CNN piece, rather.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
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Zeph, I got this one;

Here lapdog:

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
― Samuel Adams
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


Zeph, I got this one;

Here lapdog:

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
― Samuel Adams
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31185579



you do know that Sammy was, shall we say, "a little lite in the loafers"
don't ya....yep bet that one slipped right by ya...but you right on quoting him if ya like
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


Zeph, I got this one;

Here lapdog:

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
― Samuel Adams
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31185579



you do know that Sammy was, shall we say, "a little lite in the loafers"
don't ya....yep bet that one slipped right by ya...but you right on quoting him if ya like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121



you have been weighed you have been measured and you have been found wanting.....

"let him who is without sin, cast the first stone"

YOU are the scum on the bottom of my shoe, whether ignorance or intent drive you, you are shit. You have not a backbone in place. YOU will gladly lick the hands of your master.....
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


Address the issue instead of making a feeble attack on the poster if you want to be taken seriously.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


Address the issue instead of making a feeble attack on the poster if you want to be taken seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19958864


seriousness went out the window 22 threads ago.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


Zeph, I got this one;

Here lapdog:

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
― Samuel Adams
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31185579



you do know that Sammy was, shall we say, "a little lite in the loafers"
don't ya....yep bet that one slipped right by ya...but you right on quoting him if ya like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121



you have been weighed you have been measured and you have been found wanting.....

"let him who is without sin, cast the first stone"

YOU are the scum on the bottom of my shoe, whether ignorance or intent drive you, you are shit. You have not a backbone in place. YOU will gladly lick the hands of your master.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31185579


still smarter and richer than you.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
What a wicked lying bitch.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
It's a complicated investigation. Separate threads make the discussion more focused on each, particular issue.

I'm not interested in a "wow-sandy-hook-it-was-a-FEMA-hoax" thread followed by some animated icons, a few "Yeps!" and a "What's next?"

This is one of the most important American stories of our century, or so I believe.

What's the rush to abandon the topic? We haven't even begun to crack the case yet (though have laid some great groundwork). But this could, like the Kennedy case, take decades.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


Zeph, I got this one;

Here lapdog:

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
― Samuel Adams
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31185579


Great quote, 311, thanks for that!
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
This doesn't actually specify shot only once in the head, does it? It only says shot in the forehead, leaving unsaid how many times shot. Reporters these days do not seem concerned with specifics or accuracy in their reporting. Most reporting these days is about reporting the emotional reactions to what happened, not reporting details of what happened.

His mother, Nancy Lanza, was found shot through her forehead by a .22-caliber rifle left in her second-floor bedroom. Nearby was a blue-and-white duffel bag containing 50 rounds of rifle ammo, ear protection, eye protection, binoculars, paper targets and a certificate from the National Rifle Association bearing Adam Lanza's name.
[link to www.cnn.com]
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
This doesn't actually specify shot only once in the head, does it? It only says shot in the forehead, leaving unsaid how many times shot. Reporters these days do not seem concerned with specifics or accuracy in their reporting. Most reporting these days is about reporting the emotional reactions to what happened, not reporting details of what happened.

His mother, Nancy Lanza, was found shot through her forehead by a .22-caliber rifle left in her second-floor bedroom. Nearby was a blue-and-white duffel bag containing 50 rounds of rifle ammo, ear protection, eye protection, binoculars, paper targets and a certificate from the National Rifle Association bearing Adam Lanza's name.
[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


The main thing this article did for me is specify the location of the rifle and imply it was in fact the .22 weapon used to shoot her. The warrants list another .22 (Volcanic starter pistol) on the premises, but this article suggests it was in fact the rifle (Savage Mark II) that caused her death. This rifle, according to the warrant, has only one spent cartridge and three unfired bullets.

Also mentioned here:

"Stephen J. Sedensky III, the state’s attorney who is in charge of the investigation, said in a statement on Thursday that Mr. Lanza shot his mother in the forehead with a .22-caliber rifle while she was in bed in her second-story bedroom."

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"Police found Nancy Lanza lying in bed in her pajamas with a gunshot wound to the face." [link to newyork.cbslocal.com]

"Authorities headed to the Lanza home, about five miles away, and found Nancy Lanza in bed in a second-story bedroom with a gunshot wound to her forehead, and a rifle on the floor." [link to www.nbcconnecticut.com]

"The documents also confirm that investigators found Lanza’s mother, Nancy, shot to death in her bed with a gunshot wound to the forehead.

Read more: [link to foxnewsinsider.com]
[link to foxnewsinsider.com]

Carver said she was shot four times. The warrants don't reflect that scenario.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
This doesn't actually specify shot only once in the head, does it? It only says shot in the forehead, leaving unsaid how many times shot. Reporters these days do not seem concerned with specifics or accuracy in their reporting. Most reporting these days is about reporting the emotional reactions to what happened, not reporting details of what happened.

His mother, Nancy Lanza, was found shot through her forehead by a .22-caliber rifle left in her second-floor bedroom. Nearby was a blue-and-white duffel bag containing 50 rounds of rifle ammo, ear protection, eye protection, binoculars, paper targets and a certificate from the National Rifle Association bearing Adam Lanza's name.
[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


The main thing this article did for me is specify the location of the rifle and imply it was in fact the .22 weapon used to shoot her. The warrants list another .22 (Volcanic starter pistol) on the premises, but this article suggests it was in fact the rifle (Savage Mark II) that caused her death. This rifle, according to the warrant, has only one spent cartridge and three unfired bullets.

Also mentioned here:

"Stephen J. Sedensky III, the state’s attorney who is in charge of the investigation, said in a statement on Thursday that Mr. Lanza shot his mother in the forehead with a .22-caliber rifle while she was in bed in her second-story bedroom."

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"Police found Nancy Lanza lying in bed in her pajamas with a gunshot wound to the face." [link to newyork.cbslocal.com]

"Authorities headed to the Lanza home, about five miles away, and found Nancy Lanza in bed in a second-story bedroom with a gunshot wound to her forehead, and a rifle on the floor." [link to www.nbcconnecticut.com]

"The documents also confirm that investigators found Lanza’s mother, Nancy, shot to death in her bed with a gunshot wound to the forehead.

Read more: [link to foxnewsinsider.com]
[link to foxnewsinsider.com]

Carver said she was shot four times. The warrants don't reflect that scenario.
 Quoting: Aletheia 41406531


Great points You guys. Maybe Carver just went a little overboard and just surmised everyone had multiple shots. Did he do Nancy's autopsy?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
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Zeph has more to contribute than a person with no damn name.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Today's Courant Piece Reintroduces Confusion Over Carver's Claim Nancy was Shot "Four Times"
holy shit Zeph, 23 threads by you just on the first 2 search pages...obsessed much?......

and ya'll call me a shill....

you really need to get some counseling....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37578121


same tone as the shill that tried to spook me..... ignore this one. likes to claim all sorts of mental disorders for people that reasonably questions the otomatotomatotomatotomatotomato
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