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gashman
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06/17/2013 07:34 PM
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caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
i work as a bar manager and the take last night wasn't alot for the amount of people that were in, so i looked on CCTV and found both my bartenders dipping into the till and robbing me blind also not ringing drinks in! is this how bad it has got??!!!
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06/17/2013 07:34 PM
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give them a raise
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06/17/2013 07:35 PM
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police
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i work as a bar manager and the take last night wasn't alot for the amount of people that were in, so i looked on CCTV and found both my bartenders dipping into the till and robbing me blind also not ringing drinks in! is this how bad it has got??!!!
 Quoting: gashman


are you going to prosecute or just kick them to the curb?
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06/17/2013 07:35 PM
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Turn the footage over to the constables or invite the constables in for a sting.
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i'll be calling the police tomorrow, they have been with us 2/3 years
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
i work as a bar manager and the take last night wasn't alot for the amount of people that were in, so i looked on CCTV and found both my bartenders dipping into the till and robbing me blind also not ringing drinks in! is this how bad it has got??!!!
 Quoting: gashman


are you going to prosecute or just kick them to the curb?
 Quoting: Oyster


prosecute
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06/17/2013 07:36 PM
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i'll be calling the police tomorrow, they have been with us 2/3 years
 Quoting: gashman


you have to.

free drinks is one thing but still actual cash.....low life.
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06/17/2013 07:37 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
Shitcan them immediately.
gashman  (OP)

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06/17/2013 07:37 PM
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i'll be calling the police tomorrow, they have been with us 2/3 years
 Quoting: gashman


you have to.

free drinks is one thing but still actual cash.....low life.
 Quoting: Oyster


if they wanted cash they should of asked i'd of subbed them thats what pisses me off!!
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06/17/2013 07:38 PM
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my wife works in the office at a large establishment, they weigh the bottles every morning and compare against the night before sales.

in that kind of business you can't trust anyone it seems. otherwise they will not ring in drinks and pocket the cash, or serve their friends doubles or premiums without charging the right price etc etc.
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06/17/2013 07:38 PM
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Hi there,

What company do you work for, are you a tenant?

Im a pub manager for wetherspoon, you have grounds for summary dismissal and prosecution if your interested, IM me i can talk you through it. Ive dealt with a lot of this type of thing.

Could always settle for a good old fashioned cellar chat ;)
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06/17/2013 07:39 PM
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pay them a decent wage.5a
gashman  (OP)

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06/17/2013 07:40 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
Hi there,

What company do you work for, are you a tenant?

Im a pub manager for wetherspoon, you have grounds for summary dismissal and prosecution if your interested, IM me i can talk you through it. Ive dealt with a lot of this type of thing.

Could always settle for a good old fashioned cellar chat ;)
 Quoting: brianfantastic


i have 1 bar a funpub and a nightclub in one complex, we own the building and company and are freehold,
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06/17/2013 07:42 PM
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It would help if your ePOS System was something upto date, for example Aztec. Something where you can compare transactions to cctv footage and cross ref it. Then get the little fuckers to explain their actions.
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06/17/2013 07:42 PM
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I would've fired them.

With a bat!
RIP. Berserk
gashman  (OP)

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06/17/2013 07:44 PM
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you can clearly see it we have HD cameras thinking of phoning them to come in tomorrow and beat them up with a pool cue or something im so fucking angry
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06/17/2013 07:47 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
"they have been with us 2/3 years"

scum like this can kill your biz dead. go get them and don't back off
gashman  (OP)

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06/17/2013 07:48 PM
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06/17/2013 07:49 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
Just think before you act. Assult with intent is worse than theft in the eyes of the law. What may be beneficial is to go through the whole shifts CCTV and work out an average of what they stole, go back through whatever system you have in place to track cash/stock loss and then call the police. I literally summary dismissed someone last week who had been stealing an average of £800 a week for over a year. He's being made to pay it all back with damages. We are looking to prosecute for fraud, so any job he goes for in the future that requires a CRB check he will be unable to obtain. Food for thought.

Just dont do anything you'll regret.
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06/17/2013 07:49 PM
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 Quoting: gashman


mr. manager.

just fire their asses and hire somebody new. pouring drinks ain't that difficult and there are more honest people.

that and figure out how to be more of an authority figure.

people take advantage if they think they can get away with it.
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06/17/2013 07:50 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
my wife works in the office at a large establishment, they weigh the bottles every morning and compare against the night before sales.

in that kind of business you can't trust anyone it seems. otherwise they will not ring in drinks and pocket the cash, or serve their friends doubles or premiums without charging the right price etc etc.
 Quoting: Anubis


Hey, its called 'perks'...cheap bastards5a

I say try paying them a livable wage, and not relying on others to...
 Quoting: Naga


Stop posting with your Obama phone please.
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06/17/2013 07:51 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
i work as a bar manager and the take last night wasn't alot for the amount of people that were in, so i looked on CCTV and found both my bartenders dipping into the till and robbing me blind also not ringing drinks in! is this how bad it has got??!!!
 Quoting: gashman


soon when the money crash comes, you wont have money in your till at all. all TRANSACTION will be done ELECTRONICALLY and the government will also KNOW EXACTLY what goes through your till.!!

of course your business, will probably get LOOTED anyways when it all goes down, such is the business you are in gets looted as soon as a riot happens.

good luck with finding staff that are honest anyways, but for what it is worth those that stole from you, give them the option of paying it all back first.!!
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06/17/2013 07:53 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
Fire them!
Prosecute to the fullest extent of the law!
Sue them for Damages.
Hire competent people who will produce for you instead of stealing from you.
Do background checks on the people you hire.
Burn it all down! That whole area of earth I command my Legion to Nuke the holy Fuck out of the Holy land and be done with it!
 Quoting: DoomBert
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06/17/2013 07:56 PM
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Good on you to have the CCTV. The owners of my place are way too fucking cheap to install it.

Yea, that's right, sometimes I take shots at work or a little baileys in my coffee. The owners are a couple of no good cheapskates that treat their employees like shit, have a horrible kitchen that serves shit food that would probably not pass a health inspection and steal from the employees. I mean steal too, the bussers are always talking about their tip shares not seeming right, they hand over credit card charges to us the bartenders/waitstaff (I have never had that at one of these jobs, that is on the business to pay for merchant services) and are to cheap to pay for a manager or bartender to be on during lunch. It's fucking open season at lunch time, shot's is the thing to do.

But...

The money you do make is fucking great and the "perks" are nice too, so I stick it out.
Fuck Yea!
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06/17/2013 08:02 PM
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If you fire them, you can always tell your new hires that the last chaps here were fired, and are currently serving prison terms for their thievery. Wouldn't be true, but sometimes, management by fear is the only thing people understand.
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06/17/2013 08:07 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
i'll be calling the police tomorrow, they have been with us 2/3 years
 Quoting: gashman


you have to.

free drinks is one thing but still actual cash.....low life.
 Quoting: Oyster


agreed
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06/17/2013 08:09 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
my wife works in the office at a large establishment, they weigh the bottles every morning and compare against the night before sales.

in that kind of business you can't trust anyone it seems. otherwise they will not ring in drinks and pocket the cash, or serve their friends doubles or premiums without charging the right price etc etc.
 Quoting: Anubis


Hey, its called 'perks'...cheap bastards5a

I say try paying them a livable wage, and not relying on others to...
 Quoting: Naga


Stop posting with your Obama phone please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1165448


lol...that was part joke, yet part truth...those people don't make crap unless tipped well. Stealing is one thing, but you have to expect a free drink here and there...


I am still wondering why OP wants to beat their asses over this so bad. It's not his business, just report it and be done...


and yes i don't understand why the restaurant business in America gets away without paying their employees.
 Quoting: Naga


Well if your good at it you can make some decent money. Tips are never really an issue with me unless dealing with certain types of people who don't understand how to fucking tip.
Fuck Yea!
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06/17/2013 08:10 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
i'll be calling the police tomorrow, they have been with us 2/3 years
 Quoting: gashman


you have to.

free drinks is one thing but still actual cash.....low life.
 Quoting: Oyster


agreed
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Yea I agree too, taking money is terrible, but taking a shot out of a bottle that costs the owner 25 bucks and they make more than 200 on, is another.
Fuck Yea!
gashman  (OP)

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06/17/2013 08:11 PM
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Re: caught 2 of my staff stealing!!!
i wanna beat there ass because i reckon this has been going on for months, i have done everything for them even moved them house when one was moving to a new home, gave them extra shifts to pay for there new place, i trusted them alot!





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