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Practicing compassion

 
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Nice :)

“Compassion is not religious business, it is human business, it is not luxury, it is essential for our own peace and mental stability, it is essential for human survival.”

~Dalai Lama~


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This is how i see what compassion is: Compassion is willingness to bear the pain of others. And wisdom comes along with compassion. There is no one without other. In practice, compassion gives rise to a wisdom, and wisdom gives rise to a compassion. Compassion is to want others free from suffering. It's not passive and it's not empathy alone but rather an empathetic altruism that actively strives to free others from suffering. Genuine compassion has it both loving-kindness and wisdom. That is to say that one must understand meaning of suffering (wisdom) and must experience deep empathy toward all sentient beings (loving-kindness).
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impressive and astute all rolled into one. hf You deserve a green karma for making us all better for having read it.
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Perfectly stated. Green all around.
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Pity is a judgement. Compassion requires action.
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so true!
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Beautiful thread :)

smile_kiss hf
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"All the peace and happiness of the whole globe,
the peace and happiness of societies,
the peace and happiness of family,
the peace and happiness in the individual persons' life,
and the peace and happiness of even the animals and so forth,
all depends on having loving kindness toward each other."

Lama Zopa Rinpoche

I am very pleased to see how much love this thread has caused. Honestly I did not think it would have created this much love. :)

One action
It can change so much
Small actions, they remain high in history
It would take us in the right direction
Your own belly button staring, however, is this.

One action
Would make seem world less sick
But lock yourselves to your rooms
Hide yourselves from the world
Close your eyes.*

Listen to a lullaby
That puts you to sleep
Whom strength to this nightmare
If you could just it fade.

Where is love?
Died in the spirit of the times?
Where did disappear compassion?
Was it too hard off in front of us?

I'm not perfect myself
I know it
I am just one person
Human of small actions
The ambassador of love
Life of compassion.

Don't just stand still
Remember, small actions they count
They are forged in gold.

How can you live in this world
And show no compassion
Remember, one action, great power
I know some of us are afraid
To use their hearts.

One action
Action of compassion
Open your heart today
For the better tomorrow.


-My own poem "One action"

Love & Light to all of you.

I hug you all with universe!
We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin.

Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you.
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The worst thing one can do is to feel sorry for someone else.
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Hello Shabali, thanks you for your words, for which I humbly accept the validity. hf

For those minds who seek freedom; the path of the Bodhisattva is unparallelled.


The Sanskrit term Bodhisattva is the name given to anyone who, motivated by great compassion, has generated bodhichitta, which is a spontaneous wish to attain Buddhahood for the benefit of all sentient beings. What makes someone a Bodhisattva is her or his dedication to the ultimate welfare of other beings.
(A bodhisattva, literally an awake (bodhi) being (sattva), is an ideal in Mahayana Buddhism. Having intimately experienced the interconnection of all life, a bodhisattva vows to work for the awakening of all and not just for oneself alone. )



The Goal is the Practice Itself


We begin Dharma practice by developing love and compassion. There is no end to Dharma practice, but if there were, it would end with love and compassion. This is the core essence of Dharma practice. Developing love and compassion is the essence of any Dharma practice we can do. All teachings have the same message, that of generating love and compassion. So it is crucial that we know how to essentialize all of the Dharma teachings, not thinking that all these Dharma teachings have separate goals. When we practice Bodhicitta, loving-kindness, the goal is already here, right here in each of us, in this moment. It does not exist in the future when we are better practitioners. The goal IS what we are doing right now. Practicing love and kindness is the goal of the practice. When we practice love and compassion for other beings, for ourselves, we are truly enlightened in that moment. There is no other definition of enlightenment apart from having love and compassion. The goal is already actualized in this moment. The goal is the practice itself.



[link to www.naljorprisondharmaservice.org]
 Quoting: JellyVision



Namaste my friend! And thank you for you too. :)


Yes practice is the goal, or goal is to practice.

Direct experience

Everything should arise from direct experience. Dharma is just data to put in test in our every day life. We should not take them granted, and simply believe what is written is the truth, but like an analyst buying gold, who cuts, burns, and critically examines his product for authenticity, we should test dharma in our every day life through direct experience. And such as dharma is data, and should be put practice in our every day life and should be directly experienced. So should compassion be practiced and directly experienced and learned through experience and practicing. When we practice compassion, and have experience it teaches us that we all want compassion, we all are capable of doing it and that wisdom comes along with compassion.
We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin.

Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you.
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Hey Ladies, my sandwich isn't going to make itself. GET BACK TO THE KITCHEN.

Now that's compassion
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People mix up a lot of things, like happiness and fun.
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Showing my compassion to you, dear Brief.
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The worst thing one can do is to feel sorry for someone else.
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I say this to you with the utmost compassion: GO BACK AND READ THE OP.
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"All people are my people"

I am compassionate towards every being stuck in Hell with me. I just wish more people felt the same. I'm glad you're making the effort OP.
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So true.
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"All people are my people"

I am compassionate towards every being stuck in Hell with me. I just wish more people felt the same. I'm glad you're making the effort OP.
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You are very welcome <3 Love and light to you my friend.
We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin.

Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you.
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This might be somewhat heterodox (I cannot confirm lineage, school, etc) but I like it. Maybe you will too.

It releates to Avalokiteshvara (Kannon in Japanese, Quan Yin/Guanyin in Chinese), who is perhaps the foremost Bodhisattva of Compassion in East Asia.

I advise reading the whole we page first (long but good):

[link to www.souledout.org]

The following is only a portion from the source link:


"This meditation on the thousand armed Avalokiteshvara is a visualization which appeared when a friend asked for spiritual guidance to alleviate her suffering ... feel free to experiment with each meditation technique.

Find a quiet and comfortable space. Then, while breathing deeply for a few moments, relax and empty your mind. In that void, picture Avalokiteshvara standing in front of you. Repeat his name. Then imagine streams of violet light flowing from his thousand eyes piercing the veils of glamours and illusions, dispelling all fear and suffering surrounding you.

As you experience the veils lifting, see His thousand arms transform into shimmering threads of golden light surrounding you in a translucent cocoon of gold. Remain in His "embrace," in complete silence, until you experience a fully open heart and a peaceful mind. Place your consciousness at the top of your head. At your crown see a thousand-petaled lotus bursting through the cocoon of gold, unfolding, revealing a diamond at its very center, radiating rainbow hued swirling vortexes of light. Radiating from your crown and heart center, the energies unite transforming into a thousand arms~like wings of an angel~each possessing and bestowing enlightened compassion. Transformed, you emerge the embodiment of compassion.

Go forth and serve ... Buddhas All! As a person think in their heart, so shall they be!"
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Am struggling to understand the very topic and differentiate it all with emotions taken out of the equations hf
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amazing. Thank you. Much Love to youhf
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.
We are spiritual beings on a human journey.
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I like your message but honestly, there is no need to practice anything if you do the simplest of things...
'Be the love that you are.' hf
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There is a fine distinction between love and compassion. Love is more about instinct but compassion is more about wisdom, in my opinion.

This is why compassion does indeed have to be practiced to reap the full benefit.

That's why this thread is more active than benign and we need to fully realize that -i think.
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I like your perspective on compassion. Mine is, compassion is love in action to others(empathy). hf
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Insightful.
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Am struggling to understand the very topic and differentiate it all with emotions taken out of the equations hf
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emotions except pure love and compassion are mind based (ego) pure love and compassion is consciousness. Consciousness exists outside of our minds. Hope it helps. Much Love to you.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.
We are spiritual beings on a human journey.
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Hello Shabali, thanks you for your words, for which I humbly accept the validity. hf

For those minds who seek freedom; the path of the Bodhisattva is unparallelled.


 Quoting: JellyVision



Namaste my friend! And thank you for you too. :)


Yes practice is the goal, or goal is to practice.

When we practice compassion, and have experience it teaches us that we all want compassion, we all are capable of doing it and that wisdom comes along with compassion.
 Quoting: Sabali


So true <smiles> as wisdom leads to compassion, compassion leads to wisdom.

I remember a Tibetan teaching that represented them as the two pillars either side of the gateway to enlightenment, as a relative beginner I got my first glimpse of a truth I try unsuccessfully live up to.

I can sincerely say that as a 'seeker of truth', my experience with an examination of 'bodhichitta' ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] was by far the most deep and profound.

To transform yourself thus is not a task taken lightly. The correct orientation or posture of the mind is a submission to the duration of your intent ~ The duration is for infinite incarnations.
Although 'Unattainable,' he vows to attain it; At the cost of his own happiness he will reincarnate again and again until the suffering of all beings is ended.

To those beings whose compassion extends to their bitterest foe, I pay homage.


Spontaneity


"Bodhicitta is a sudden and lasting compassion for all beings, accompanied by a falling away of the attachment to the illusion of an inherently-existing self.

This spark of compassion motivates one to achieve omniscient Buddhahood as quickly as possible, so that one may benefit infinite sentient beings. Bodhicitta is a felt need to replace others' suffering with bliss. Since the ultimate end of suffering is moksha, bodhicitta necessarily involves a motivation to help others to awaken (to find bodhi).

One for whom bodhicitta is the prime motivation for all actions is called a bodhisattva."
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Perhaps people confuse the two because when you define compassion on Google you get this:

Define:Compassion
com·pas·sion
Noun

Sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others: "the victims should be treated with compassion".
Synonyms
pity - mercy - sympathy - commiseration - ruth - clemency




I do believe that to have compassion is a sign of intelligence.

I also think that what might be even more important is for one to have empathy and the ability to connect to how someone or something is "feeling" and to understand why some people do what they do.




Define:Empathy
em·pa·thy
Noun

The ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
Synonyms
sympathy


Compassion, Empathy, and Sympathy are things greatly needed in today's society.. sadly it seems that when it is shown, it is just that.. only shown, "for show", and not acted upon.

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If compassion is a sign of intelligence, that explains Cheney.

And he thinks he's an adult lol
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In the song, this is repeated over and over again

Om Tare, Tuttare,Ture,Soha

an altruistic mantra contemplation

Tare: quickly with boldness

Tuttare: clearing away all fear, distress and suffering of all beings

Ture: complete victory of truth over all negativity

Soha/svaha: all accomplishments
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Hello Shabali, thanks you for your words, for which I humbly accept the validity. hf

For those minds who seek freedom; the path of the Bodhisattva is unparallelled.


 Quoting: JellyVision



Namaste my friend! And thank you for you too. :)


Yes practice is the goal, or goal is to practice.

When we practice compassion, and have experience it teaches us that we all want compassion, we all are capable of doing it and that wisdom comes along with compassion.
 Quoting: Sabali


So true <smiles> as wisdom leads to compassion, compassion leads to wisdom.

I remember a Tibetan teaching that represented them as the two pillars either side of the gateway to enlightenment, as a relative beginner I got my first glimpse of a truth I try unsuccessfully live up to.

I can sincerely say that as a 'seeker of truth', my experience with an examination of 'bodhichitta' ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] was by far the most deep and profound.

To transform yourself thus is not a task taken lightly. The correct orientation or posture of the mind is a submission to the duration of your intent ~ The duration is for infinite incarnations.
Although 'Unattainable,' he vows to attain it; At the cost of his own happiness he will reincarnate again and again until the suffering of all beings is ended.

To those beings whose compassion extends to their bitterest foe, I pay homage.


Spontaneity


"Bodhicitta is a sudden and lasting compassion for all beings, accompanied by a falling away of the attachment to the illusion of an inherently-existing self.

This spark of compassion motivates one to achieve omniscient Buddhahood as quickly as possible, so that one may benefit infinite sentient beings. Bodhicitta is a felt need to replace others' suffering with bliss. Since the ultimate end of suffering is moksha, bodhicitta necessarily involves a motivation to help others to awaken (to find bodhi).

One for whom bodhicitta is the prime motivation for all actions is called a bodhisattva."

 Quoting: JellyVision



Key to enlightenment is not just boundless love and compassion but also to understand that self is nothing but a voidness, it cannot grasp anywhere nor it can be touched.



And yes it was very deep and profound journey for me too. Meditation after meditation I was almost frustfrated cause I did not get the point of this all. I was looking from somewhere else, that was my problem, I looked outside, not inside, I did not ask myself who I am. And when I finally started ask myself who I am, slowly but surely I started realize all point of this. This puzzle started solve it self.
We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin.

Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you.
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Religion destroys compassion; well, at least, the Abrahamic religions do.
Think about it.
I don't care how you people try and twist the words of the God of your book, it all essentially means if you don't follow my religion you will suffer for eternity.

It's hard believing the compassion in others who subscribe to ideas like these.
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thats the way
hf
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Good read. Thank you. I've found more compassion from the people on GLP than possible any other group of people i've known in my life
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Glad you have found compassion, remember to spread it towards all beings.

hf
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I believe this is a living example of peace of mind and compassion:

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Hello Shabali, thanks you for your words, for which I humbly accept the validity. hf

For those minds who seek freedom; the path of the Bodhisattva is unparallelled.


 Quoting: JellyVision



Namaste my friend! And thank you for you too. :)


Yes practice is the goal, or goal is to practice.

When we practice compassion, and have experience it teaches us that we all want compassion, we all are capable of doing it and that wisdom comes along with compassion.
 Quoting: Sabali



And yes it was very deep and profound journey for me too. Meditation after meditation I was almost frustfrated cause I did not get the point of this all. I was looking from somewhere else, that was my problem, I looked outside, not inside, I did not ask myself who I am. And when I finally started ask myself who I am, slowly but surely I started realize all point of this. This puzzle started solve it self.
 Quoting: JellyVision


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Part of practicing compassion is living simply...so that others may simply live.

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Part of practicing compassion is living simply...so that others may simply live.

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It seems to me some people mix up practicing compassion with pity. Or that practicing compassion should be pointed only to those that are emotionally attached to us. People are in some what delusion that if you are not emotionally attached to person whom you spread your compassion is impossible. The buddha taught us that we should practice loving-kindness and compassion towards all sentient beings without any exceptions ,regardless do we like them or not.

Compassion and pity should not be mixed up. Pity has it roots in fear and it carries this sense of arrogance and condescencion, sometimes even a smug feeling of "Glad it's not me". The key is to realize that all beings are the same and we all suffer in same way, and to honor all those who suffer, and to know that you are neither separate from nor superior to anyone.

And compassion without emotional attachment is possible. We should clarify the difference between attachment and compassion. You see true compassion is not just an emotional response but a firm commitment founded on reason. A truly compassionate attitude toward others does not change even if they behave towards us negatively. Genuine compassion is not based on our own expectations but on the needs of the other.

We all think in some level that compassion is important, but problem is that the compassion is flawed. We measure it out. Example, we feel compassion for people around us but not for animals and other types of sentient beings. Or in other way there is some who feel compassion for animals and other sentient beings but not for human. Or we feel compassion only people in our country but for not others in other countries. We simply draw line somewhere. We feel compassion for those on one side of the line but not for those on the other side of the line. That is why our compassion is flawed. It is not necessary to draw that line. Nor is it suitable. Everyone, including you wants compassion, and we can practice our compassion to everyone, every single sentient being.

"Whatever joy there is in this world
All comes from desiring others to be happy,
And whatever suffering there is in this world,
All comes from desiring myself to be happy.

But what need is there to say much more?
The childish work for their own benefit,
The Buddhas work for the benefit of others.
Just look at the difference between them!"


-Shantideva

Love & Light!
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Compassion flows naturally, unless we block it. This happens when we attach the idea of value to something, whether for good or bad.

It is obvious to most we won't feel compassion with something we attach negative value to. But what may not be so obvious, is that the act of attaching positive value to things and people also blocks the flow of compassion.

This is perhaps easiest to understand if you realize that saying "xyz is good" is the equivalent of saying "not-xyz is bad".

Praise a thing, and you at the same time curse the absence of that thing. It cannot be avoided. There's a saying in my country "no matter how you turn, your butt is behind you". That's an apt description of trying to LOVE everything - you only love the thing you see in front of you, and the thing behind you ends up being hated.

That's why there are two traps, and only one path leading to our true nature.

There is the trap of negativity, which leads straight to "hell".

There is the trap of positivity, which is like walking backwards straight to "hell".

There is the path of neutrality, which is to be in "heaven" already.

True unconditional Love and Compassion does not flow from loving everything (that's impossible), it flows from being at peace with everything, which means, accepting all things as they are, not attaching value to them either way.

Look around, and you'll see people proving this every day. The ones who do their best to LOOOVE everything always have some kind of trigger that sends them into a hate orgy. The people who SUPPORT a certain idea always go into a hate frenzy when confronted with those who think otherwise.

It doesn't matter if the thing they LOVE and SUPPORT is the most godly and wonderfully positive thing in the Universe, they still end up stuck in ungodly hate half of the time. Because they didn't realize the path to heaven is to be there already, which means you are at peace, which means you don't attach value to anything.

It's a Paradox - what we seek can only be found by stopping the search for it.