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| Sabali (OP) User ID: 41986028 Finland06/19/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are right with that mate :) Happiness is based on peace of mind, not on excitement. People usually mix up excitement as happiness. If there is a remedy when trouble strikes, What reason is there for despondency? And if there is no help for it, What is the use of being sad? So come what may, I'll never harm My cheery happiness of mind. Depression never brings me what I want; My virtue will be warped and marred by it. Nagarjuna We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin. Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you. |
| homelessguy92 User ID: 40373762 United States06/19/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me some people mix up practicing compassion with pity. Or that practicing compassion should be pointed only to those that are emotionally attached to us. People are in some what delusion that if you are not emotionally attached to person whom you spread your compassion is impossible. The buddha taught us that we should practice loving-kindness and compassion towards all sentient beings without any exceptions ,regardless do we like them or not. Quoting: Sabali Compassion and pity should not be mixed up. Pity has it roots in fear and it carries this sense of arrogance and condescencion, sometimes even a smug feeling of "Glad it's not me". The key is to realize that all beings are the same and we all suffer in same way, and to honor all those who suffer, and to know that you are neither separate from nor superior to anyone. And compassion without emotional attachment is possible. We should clarify the difference between attachment and compassion. You see true compassion is not just an emotional response but a firm commitment founded on reason. A truly compassionate attitude toward others does not change even if they behave towards us negatively. Genuine compassion is not based on our own expectations but on the needs of the other. We all think in some level that compassion is important, but problem is that the compassion is flawed. We measure it out. Example, we feel compassion for people around us but not for animals and other types of sentient beings. Or in other way there is some who feel compassion for animals and other sentient beings but not for human. Or we feel compassion only people in our country but for not others in other countries. We simply draw line somewhere. We feel compassion for those on one side of the line but not for those on the other side of the line. That is why our compassion is flawed. It is not necessary to draw that line. Nor is it suitable. Everyone, including you wants compassion, and we can practice our compassion to everyone, every single sentient being. "Whatever joy there is in this world All comes from desiring others to be happy, And whatever suffering there is in this world, All comes from desiring myself to be happy. But what need is there to say much more? The childish work for their own benefit, The Buddhas work for the benefit of others. Just look at the difference between them!" -Shantideva Love & Light! Good read. Thank you. I've found more compassion from the people on GLP than possible any other group of people i've known in my life |
| Sabali (OP) User ID: 41986028 Finland06/19/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AROHA to you too, there in other side of this planet  We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin. Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you. |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States06/19/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are right with that mate :) Happiness is based on peace of mind, not on excitement. People usually mix up excitement as happiness. If there is a remedy when trouble strikes, What reason is there for despondency? And if there is no help for it, What is the use of being sad? So come what may, I'll never harm My cheery happiness of mind. Depression never brings me what I want; My virtue will be warped and marred by it. Nagarjuna Dennis Prager wrote a wonderful book on happiness called "Happiness is a serious Problem" I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
| Sabali (OP) User ID: 41986028 Finland06/19/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good read. Thank you. I've found more compassion from the people on GLP than possible any other group of people i've known in my life Quoting: homelessguy92 Glad you have found compassion, remember to spread it towards all beings.  Last Edited by Sabali on 06/19/2013 05:10 PM We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin. Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you. |
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| TheRollsRoyceTrent User ID: 41258536 United States06/19/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything takes "practice". Even loving others take practice especially if "you don't like them". How To Get The COLDEST Air From A Window Air Conditioner: Keep Your Window Air Conditioner On LOW Fan Speed And Set The Thermostat On 77* Or So. It Blows The Coldest Air - Saving On Cooling Costs. It Really Does Work. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694278 United States06/19/2013 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything takes "practice". Even loving others take practice especially if "you don't like them". Quoting: TheRollsRoyceTrent If I may... This is not quite correct. Honestly only 'doing' requires practice to perfect whereas 'being' requires nothing more than just 'being, for there is nothing to do except just BE. How much simpler can it get? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 39958690  Canada06/19/2013 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like your message but honestly, there is no need to practice anything if you do the simplest of things... Quoting: Seeker of Truth 'Be the love that you are.' There is a fine distinction between love and compassion. Love is more about instinct but compassion is more about wisdom, in my opinion. This is why compassion does indeed have to be practiced to reap the full benefit. That's why this thread is more active than benign and we need to fully realize that -i think. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694278 United States06/19/2013 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like your message but honestly, there is no need to practice anything if you do the simplest of things... Quoting: Seeker of Truth 'Be the love that you are.' There is a fine distinction between love and compassion. Love is more about instinct but compassion is more about wisdom, in my opinion. This is why compassion does indeed have to be practiced to reap the full benefit. That's why this thread is more active than benign and we need to fully realize that -i think. I like your perspective on compassion. Mine is, compassion is love in action to others(empathy). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41988894 United States06/19/2013 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything takes "practice". Even loving others take practice especially if "you don't like them". Quoting: TheRollsRoyceTrent If I may... This is not quite correct. Honestly only 'doing' requires practice to perfect whereas 'being' requires nothing more than just 'being, for there is nothing to do except just BE. How much simpler can it get? Yes! It is a state of being. Compassion is, quite simply, always there. Now I do have to 'practice' not losing my temper sometimes, ha! :pinklotus: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 39958690 Canada06/19/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like your message but honestly, there is no need to practice anything if you do the simplest of things... Quoting: Seeker of Truth 'Be the love that you are.' There is a fine distinction between love and compassion. Love is more about instinct but compassion is more about wisdom, in my opinion. This is why compassion does indeed have to be practiced to reap the full benefit. That's why this thread is more active than benign and we need to fully realize that -i think. I like your perspective on compassion. Mine is, compassion is love in action to others(empathy). Thank you. I think that we are losing our compassion because the war on terrorism is making us less tolerant when we need to be more tolerant to effectively fight terrorism. That's why I included that link about the Benghazi fiasco in my first response. Most Americans are fed up with all the blame games and want real answers. Compassion is more important than we realize, but it's a hard sell when fear and paranoia dominates. |
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| LIL' ANGEL User ID: 1053878 United States06/19/2013 05:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me some people mix up practicing compassion with pity. Or that practicing compassion should be pointed only to those that are emotionally attached to us. People are in some what delusion that if you are not emotionally attached to person whom you spread your compassion is impossible. The buddha taught us that we should practice loving-kindness and compassion towards all sentient beings without any exceptions ,regardless do we like them or not. Quoting: Sabali Compassion and pity should not be mixed up. Pity has it roots in fear and it carries this sense of arrogance and condescencion, sometimes even a smug feeling of "Glad it's not me". The key is to realize that all beings are the same and we all suffer in same way, and to honor all those who suffer, and to know that you are neither separate from nor superior to anyone. And compassion without emotional attachment is possible. We should clarify the difference between attachment and compassion. You see true compassion is not just an emotional response but a firm commitment founded on reason. A truly compassionate attitude toward others does not change even if they behave towards us negatively. Genuine compassion is not based on our own expectations but on the needs of the other. We all think in some level that compassion is important, but problem is that the compassion is flawed. We measure it out. Example, we feel compassion for people around us but not for animals and other types of sentient beings. Or in other way there is some who feel compassion for animals and other sentient beings but not for human. Or we feel compassion only people in our country but for not others in other countries. We simply draw line somewhere. We feel compassion for those on one side of the line but not for those on the other side of the line. That is why our compassion is flawed. It is not necessary to draw that line. Nor is it suitable. Everyone, including you wants compassion, and we can practice our compassion to everyone, every single sentient being. "Whatever joy there is in this world All comes from desiring others to be happy, And whatever suffering there is in this world, All comes from desiring myself to be happy. But what need is there to say much more? The childish work for their own benefit, The Buddhas work for the benefit of others. Just look at the difference between them!" -Shantideva Love & Light! Very nice post Sabali. I too have been living and practicing, Love, Patience and Tolerance along with compassion. Last Edited by Lost Angel on 06/19/2013 05:59 PM I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Jesus Christ Stay small(in ego), stay teachable(in life), stay in the basics(keep it simple) and pay attention(to guidance). me Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does. anonymous |
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| Sabali (OP) User ID: 41986028 Finland06/19/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how i see what compassion is: Compassion is willingness to bear the pain of others. And wisdom comes along with compassion. There is no one without other. In practice, compassion gives rise to a wisdom, and wisdom gives rise to a compassion. Compassion is to want others free from suffering. It's not passive and it's not empathy alone but rather an empathetic altruism that actively strives to free others from suffering. Genuine compassion has it both loving-kindness and wisdom. That is to say that one must understand meaning of suffering (wisdom) and must experience deep empathy toward all sentient beings (loving-kindness). We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin. Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you. |
| JellyVision User ID: 41968053  United Kingdom06/19/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Shabali, thanks you for your words, for which I humbly accept the validity. For those minds who seek freedom; the path of the Bodhisattva is unparallelled. The Sanskrit term Bodhisattva is the name given to anyone who, motivated by great compassion, has generated bodhichitta, which is a spontaneous wish to attain Buddhahood for the benefit of all sentient beings. What makes someone a Bodhisattva is her or his dedication to the ultimate welfare of other beings. (A bodhisattva, literally an awake (bodhi) being (sattva), is an ideal in Mahayana Buddhism. Having intimately experienced the interconnection of all life, a bodhisattva vows to work for the awakening of all and not just for oneself alone. ) The Goal is the Practice Itself We begin Dharma practice by developing love and compassion. There is no end to Dharma practice, but if there were, it would end with love and compassion. This is the core essence of Dharma practice. Developing love and compassion is the essence of any Dharma practice we can do. All teachings have the same message, that of generating love and compassion. So it is crucial that we know how to essentialize all of the Dharma teachings, not thinking that all these Dharma teachings have separate goals. When we practice Bodhicitta, loving-kindness, the goal is already here, right here in each of us, in this moment. It does not exist in the future when we are better practitioners. The goal IS what we are doing right now. Practicing love and kindness is the goal of the practice. When we practice love and compassion for other beings, for ourselves, we are truly enlightened in that moment. There is no other definition of enlightenment apart from having love and compassion. The goal is already actualized in this moment. The goal is the practice itself. [link to www.naljorprisondharmaservice.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694278 United States06/19/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how i see what compassion is: Compassion is willingness to bear the pain of others. And wisdom comes along with compassion. There is no one without other. In practice, compassion gives rise to a wisdom, and wisdom gives rise to a compassion. Compassion is to want others free from suffering. It's not passive and it's not empathy alone but rather an empathetic altruism that actively strives to free others from suffering. Genuine compassion has it both loving-kindness and wisdom. That is to say that one must understand meaning of suffering (wisdom) and must experience deep empathy toward all sentient beings (loving-kindness). Quoting: Sabali impressive and astute all rolled into one. You deserve these and a green karma for making us all better for having read it. :C &R: |
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| Diluted User ID: 39523455 United States06/19/2013 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.” - Epicurus Read my book that discusses everything from the hidden government to ET contact: [link to www.scribd.com] Love to GLP. |
| LIL' ANGEL User ID: 1053878 United States06/19/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Everybody smiles in the Same Language. I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Jesus Christ Stay small(in ego), stay teachable(in life), stay in the basics(keep it simple) and pay attention(to guidance). me Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does. anonymous |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40805391 United States06/19/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how i see what compassion is: Compassion is willingness to bear the pain of others. And wisdom comes along with compassion. There is no one without other. In practice, compassion gives rise to a wisdom, and wisdom gives rise to a compassion. Compassion is to want others free from suffering. It's not passive and it's not empathy alone but rather an empathetic altruism that actively strives to free others from suffering. Genuine compassion has it both loving-kindness and wisdom. That is to say that one must understand meaning of suffering (wisdom) and must experience deep empathy toward all sentient beings (loving-kindness). Quoting: Sabali Oh yes, perfectly said. |
