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Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?

 
Anonymous Coward
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Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
All you need is 3 motherfuckers in a room and 2 of them are conspiring against the third.

Human nature. Watch children play.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
"All you need is 3 motherfuckers in a room and 2 of them are conspiring against the third."

If they're women, yes.
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04/27/2006 08:33 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
that brings me to another point....

Woman's World - the grocerystore rag that sells for $1.49

EVERY front page has at least 1 of the following

A) How to diet
B) How to bake the FUDGIEST CAKE EVER!

Is this a mixed message or what...and women pay for this.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
besides boys are worse than girls about the "secret" part of conspiracies.

girls are more up front about it.
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04/27/2006 08:36 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
"EVERY front page has at least 1 of the following

A) How to diet
B) How to bake the FUDGIEST CAKE EVER!"

Finally a conspiracy theory I agree with!
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04/27/2006 08:37 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
I am not a conspiracy theorist.

I am a coincidence theorist.
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04/27/2006 08:40 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
You are right. There are conspiracies all over the place.

What is hard to believe is conspiracies that have no hard evidence to support them, along with a bunch of ad hoc explanations about why there is no evidence.

And always remember what Benjamin Franklin said: Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
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04/27/2006 08:43 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
What is hard to believe is conspiracies that have no hard evidence to support them, along with a bunch of ad hoc explanations about why there is no evidence.


Why is that hard to believe? How can a whisper be hard evidence?
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04/27/2006 09:10 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
Because conspiracies to be stopped require the sheople to get off their asses, and actually have to do something together which is unpleasant as a group. For that to happen, they have to stop following the status quo and actually have to do something about the injustice. Most would rather leave it up to bureaucrats and the legal system, and hope that over time the system corrects itself, so they themselves do not suffer and do not have to do it tough. It is easier just to believe the government and to let the system sort itself out, instead of being proactive and actually getting to the bottom of the matter.

A conspiracy is a muli-leveled arrangement, where smoke and mirrors are used to get the sheople off the cent via red herrings and scandals. Even if the corruption is stopped for a while, those in power will go right back to their corrupt ways, so instead of trying to weed it out, sheople would rather let things go, and let the political and professional criminals use blackmail and turf wars to bring on the balance. The typical response from a sheople is "you can not do anything about it anyway, so why worry about it". Sheople are prepared to ignore the conspiracy in hope that it goes away; and as long as their life is not directly effected by it well, leave it up to those who's job it is to monitor those types of things.

That is why mankind keeps getting sucked into needless wars for; the corruption just gets deeper and deeper, until a war occurs, and the dumb sheople then march off to war as good little patriot drones defending their way of (head in the sand) life against a enemy they were told to hate, instead of them getting to the bottom of things themselves, and finding out who their real enemies are. bricks sheep flush
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04/27/2006 09:12 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
"How can a whisper be hard evidence?"

It's not the whisper that leaves the evidence. It's the actions that the people take after the whispers that leave evidence.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
"require the sheople"


How about canning the consescending attitude, dude. You're no better than anybody else.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
"require the sheople"


How about canning the condescending attitude, dude. You're no better than anybody else.
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04/27/2006 09:29 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
and, quite probably, no worse
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
they are not my leaders, so if they say they are, they are a fraud right there
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04/27/2006 10:21 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
Theye hard to believe because someone has allowed to convince you it could be true and you gave 'it' life and it became your time wasting problem that will never prove anything but paranoia,confusion,suspicion, lunacy,and eventually lead to mental presrciption medications.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
1) Any crime that requires the cooperation of two or more individuals is, by definition, a conspiracy. Since there are practical limits as to how much harm a lone individual can do, almost all of the greatest crimes in history were conspiracies, BY DEFINITION.

2) Occam's Razor suggests that for any crime, we investigate the simplest explanation first; and only if/when evidence rules that out should we go on to a more complicated one. Ironically, the simplest explanation for many crimes is that the 'victim' is also the perpetrator.

Consider arson. Who has the most obvious motive, means, and opportunity to set a building ablaze? Its owner, of course! (Assuming he has fire insurance, or by some other means can foist the cost of demolition and/or reconstruction onto other parties.) That is why a good arson investigator will always check out the owner's alibi first.

Similarly, whenever we see a crime so great that it significantly changes public attitudes and federal policy, the most OBVIOUS potential culprit is an element within government itself that desires just such changes, has the weapons to commit the crime, and the control over law enforcement to permit the crime to occur unhindered. Only if/when all relevant government elements have been exculpated should we investigate potential outsider criminals.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
conspiracies are NOT hard to believe.
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04/27/2006 06:19 PM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
Without evidence they are indeed hard to believe.
I am what I read.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
they are right idol is a bot.
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04/27/2006 10:12 PM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
Conspiracies are as old as humanity. And most of the big ones have ample evidence and many have absolute rock solid proof. The disconnect is that the sheeple will only believe what their television tells them is true.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
"Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?"

... they're not, and, lol, they can even be pretty dang creative to boot.
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
The hardest things to admit are that you were wrong, the enemies were not who you hated, and that you were duped.

In order to believe someone must abandon all foundation of their world.

Its like coming out of the Matrix.

Many simply can't do it.
"It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati, and the principles of Jacobinism, had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am."

~George Washington, 1782
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
there have been some fantastic "coincidence theories" in the past 50 years
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04/28/2006 01:29 AM
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
Most people are sheople, because they see the banks ripping them off with outrageous fee hikes and interest rate increases, the oil corporations raising prices for no reason and criminal sheople with good lawyers getting off lightly for doing horrible things, but their government just says we can do nothing about it while their coffers get loaded from all the the revenue from being part of the problem, not part of the solution. A political criminal just resigns from their job and that it seems that is punishment enough, but if you or I were to do what they do, we would be a lot worse off.

Until sheople get off their asses and actually do something to restore justice, then the conspiracies will get bigger and bigger until, they are out on the streets begging for aid. There are conspiracies out there which have plenty of evidence, but sadly sheople are scared enacting change. Change only comes when the majority are under direct threat of losing their livelihood and their way of life, so all the criminal conspirators have to do is keep 1/2 the population happy, and they have go nothing to worry about. It is a conspiracy where the majority rule and the minority will suffer from the conspiracies until the conspiracies gets big enough to effect the majority, then the sheople will act. There is a safety in numbers, and when the numbers that are not safe are bigger then those who are safe, only then will the sheople then see the danger, and only then will they look for greener pastures. sheep
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Re: Why are conspiracies so hard to believe?
Most people are sheople, because they see the banks ripping them off with outrageous fee hikes and interest rate increases, the oil corporations raising prices for no reason and criminal sheople with good lawyers getting off lightly for doing horrible things, but their government just says we can do nothing about it while their coffers get loaded from all the the revenue from being part of the problem, not part of the solution. A political criminal just resigns from their job and that it seems that is punishment enough, but if you or I were to do what they do, we would be a lot worse off.

Until sheople get off their asses and actually do something to restore justice, then the conspiracies will get bigger and bigger until, they are out on the streets begging for aid. There are conspiracies out there which have plenty of evidence, but sadly sheople are scared enacting change. Change only comes when the majority are under direct threat of losing their livelihood and their way of life, so all the criminal conspirators have to do is keep 1/2 the population happy, and they have go nothing to worry about. It is a conspiracy where the majority rule and the minority will suffer from the conspiracies until the conspiracies gets big enough to effect the majority, then the sheople will act. There is a safety in numbers, and when the numbers that are not safe are bigger then those who are safe, only then will the sheople then see the danger, and only then will they look for greener pastures. sheep





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