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Star of Bethlehem really a comet? Chinese described a comet in 5 B.C. with same features as COMET ISON!!

 
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Professor Colin Humphreys from Cambridge University claims that the Star of Bethlehem that was witnessed in the skies during the Birth of Jesus; was no star at all. He points to the ancient Chinese who cited a comet in 5 B.C. The interesting thing is how they described this comet. If i didn't know any better i'd say they were describing comet ISON which is closing in on us. Mind you that after Jesus' death, they eventually changed the calendar and way we keep track of yester-years. ( A.D, B.C ).

Its not so hard for me to believe that TPTB changed the global cyclical calendar as to deceive in many ways; one of which could be to hide this comet/star of Bethlehem correlation. I mean, NASA hasn't showed us anything about ISON. Now its going to be hiding behind the sun just before it rears its beauty unto us.

The Chinese cited this comet for being very bright, having a long tail and viewable from earth for 70 days. NASA hasn't given us much. But what they have given is, it could be 10-15 times brighter than the moon. It has a long tail/dust feature. And will be viewable for about ...... 70 days!!! I don't want any negative comments, if you don't like what you see and your brain cannot handle the possibility of the second coming of Christ; Their are plenty of doom threads on here, go focus on the negative! We're stayin' positive here, ya diggg!?



[link to www.thenakedscientists.com]
^ Interview with Colin




[link to www.space.com]
^ "Not so easily dismissed, however, is the possibility that the Star was a bright comet. Such objects can remain visible to the unaided eye for weeks either in the predawn sky or at dusk. Surely it is not impossible to conceive that a comet with a bright star-like head and long gossamer tail pointing like some cosmic finger toward the horizon could have drawn the Magi to Bethlehem."


[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
^ Summary from Colin

We live in strange times indeed my friends. This world is run by spiritual wickedness in high places. Though evil may have its grip all over the world, the universe is in God's hands. This is going to be a very special comet. I do believe we will all be in for a few surprises before its all said and done!

God Bless you all!hf
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I SON... Kinda makes sense but don't know what to think about it, I'm not so sure, we'll see about that. :)
I'm a bibletard, sorry for the inconvenience.
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Good finds, OP. Not sure what I think of all this, but I do feel something big is going to happen around the ISON timeline. Intriguing reads, thanks!
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... good stuff! ... thanks! ...
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... 5 B.C. would actually be about right ...
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... good stuff! ... thanks! ...
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... 5 B.C. would actually be about right ...
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Hey Wisconsin! Curious to why you think 5 B.C. is about right? I need to look more into how/why they changed the dating the way they did...
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Re: Star of Bethlehem really a comet? Chinese described a comet in 5 B.C. with same features as COMET ISON!!
I've seen various speculations and calculations over the years, placing his birth as early as 14 BC

While I was searching, I found this website that places it at 5 BC

[link to www.abidewithchrist.org]
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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I've seen various speculations and calculations over the years, placing his birth as early as 14 BC

While I was searching, I found this website that places it at 5 BC

[link to www.abidewithchrist.org]
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Awesome, thanks for sharing that

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star of bethlehem was a light ship defense fleet ship from source to protect jesus' birth.hf

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Interesting that ISON is due on Thanksgiving Day - 11/28/13

It is also the first day of Chanukah - 25 Kislev,5774

and according to this

[link to www.chabad.org]

the day Cain killed Abel, as well as Chanukah miracle
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Re: Star of Bethlehem really a comet? Chinese described a comet in 5 B.C. with same features as COMET ISON!!
Interesting that ISON is due on Thanksgiving Day - 11/28/13

It is also the first day of Chanukah - 25 Kislev,5774

and according to this

[link to www.chabad.org]

the day Cain killed Abel, as well as Chanukah miracle
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


BOOM SHAKALAKA! When do we stop saying coincidence? Every single day the sun rises i believe less and less in coincidence.... Thanks again Rev!


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star of bethlehem was a light ship defense fleet ship from source to protect jesus' birth.hf

[link to creationlightship.com]
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Hey man, thanks for your input! I do believe we have to be careful when talking about E.T's. I have a strong feeling some are demons. Food for thought...

Much love amigo!
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Since we're talking prophecy and you like 'coincidences', check this out

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Since we're talking prophecy and you like 'coincidences', check this out

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Very interesting, i'll have to watch those vids later. I'm on the fence still with Putin. I like to believe he will stand for good, but hes been barking more than he's biting. Time will tell.
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The Biblical account says the Star was there at birth. Thats when the Magi in Persia, etc first noticed it. They were astrologers. The comet ment nothing, but a superior conjunction of Jupiter(the kingmaker)and Saturn< Important to the Jews in Pices, the spiritual sign indicated that this had to do with an important prophet or even the Messiah.
The Bible indicates an Pisces/aries cusp, the alpha and omega, beginning and end(of the zodiac), the victem, Pisces and the savior, aries. The shepherds were outwith their sheep, which they only do at birthing season in the spring to protect the sheep.
The star the Magi followed, the 7 bc conjunction separated then re-conjoined as the magi said and MONTHS later when they finally get to Bethlehem, Joseph and Mary had moved to a house. The star stood still over the house. TO this day there is a well of the Magi there which is supposed to have reflected in the well and pointed the wayto the little home. A comet could not have joined, separated and stood still like that.
Since herod died in 3bc, the birth was before then. And for Jesus to die 33 years hence, Pilate has to be there. That corrolates with the 7 b.c. date.
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Since we're talking prophecy and you like 'coincidences', check this out

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Very interesting, i'll have to watch those vids later. I'm on the fence still with Putin. I like to believe he will stand for good, but hes been barking more than he's biting. Time will tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602700


I've been cautious myself but the more I search, the more I find

let me put it this way - after praying and searching for true Christianity and the original church, I finally left Christianity - what I have been finding out about Russia and the Orthodox Church has actually been leading me back!
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Thanks for a very interesting thread, I'm sure this place (GLP) will be filled with doomers as ISON gets closer, but
I feel it's going to be awesome! hf
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Re: Star of Bethlehem really a comet? Chinese described a comet in 5 B.C. with same features as COMET ISON!!
The Biblical account says the Star was there at birth. Thats when the Magi in Persia, etc first noticed it. They were astrologers. The comet ment nothing, but a superior conjunction of Jupiter(the kingmaker)and Saturn< Important to the Jews in Pices, the spiritual sign indicated that this had to do with an important prophet or even the Messiah.
The Bible indicates an Pisces/aries cusp, the alpha and omega, beginning and end(of the zodiac), the victem, Pisces and the savior, aries. The shepherds were outwith their sheep, which they only do at birthing season in the spring to protect the sheep.
The star the Magi followed, the 7 bc conjunction separated then re-conjoined as the magi said and MONTHS later when they finally get to Bethlehem, Joseph and Mary had moved to a house. The star stood still over the house. TO this day there is a well of the Magi there which is supposed to have reflected in the well and pointed the wayto the little home. A comet could not have joined, separated and stood still like that.
Since herod died in 3bc, the birth was before then. And for Jesus to die 33 years hence, Pilate has to be there. That corrolates with the 7 b.c. date.
 Quoting: Indian Elder 13095436


Thanks for that perspective. Very awesome stuff. Astrology is so intertwined with the Bible. I can't wait to look more into this! Thanks again

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Since we're talking prophecy and you like 'coincidences', check this out

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Very interesting, i'll have to watch those vids later. I'm on the fence still with Putin. I like to believe he will stand for good, but hes been barking more than he's biting. Time will tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602700


I've been cautious myself but the more I search, the more I find

let me put it this way - after praying and searching for true Christianity and the original church, I finally left Christianity - what I have been finding out about Russia and the Orthodox Church has actually been leading me back!
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Awesome! I'll for sure read up about the Russian Orthodox Church tonight. All signs , astrological and the wicked way of the world has been drawing me back to Christ. I do feel strongly that if the rapture happened soon, a lot of avid church goers would not be saved initially. Churches around where i live seem to think everything is running normally/smoothly on this planet... i disagree wholeheartedly.
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Saw this today... Very interesting perspective of an astrological event during the time of Christ's death.

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Since we're talking prophecy and you like 'coincidences', check this out

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Very interesting, i'll have to watch those vids later. I'm on the fence still with Putin. I like to believe he will stand for good, but hes been barking more than he's biting. Time will tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602700


I've been cautious myself but the more I search, the more I find

let me put it this way - after praying and searching for true Christianity and the original church, I finally left Christianity - what I have been finding out about Russia and the Orthodox Church has actually been leading me back!
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Awesome! I'll for sure read up about the Russian Orthodox Church tonight. All signs , astrological and the wicked way of the world has been drawing me back to Christ. I do feel strongly that if the rapture happened soon, a lot of avid church goers would not be saved initially. Churches around where i live seem to think everything is running normally/smoothly on this planet... i disagree wholeheartedly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602700


Thread: Any Orthodox Christians Here?

Thread: The Complete Guide To Greek Christian Orthodox Monks Prophecies About WW3 And The Events Coming!!!
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Re: Star of Bethlehem really a comet? Chinese described a comet in 5 B.C. with same features as COMET ISON!!
Interesting that ISON is due on Thanksgiving Day - 11/28/13

It is also the first day of Chanukah - 25 Kislev,5774

and according to this

[link to www.chabad.org]

the day Cain killed Abel, as well as Chanukah miracle
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer






the day that will mark the special "holy" day of the new Millennial King...

ie: Thanksgiving

ah ha

that makes perfect sense suddenly

does it not?

indeed
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Interesting that ISON is due on Thanksgiving Day - 11/28/13

It is also the first day of Chanukah - 25 Kislev,5774

and according to this

[link to www.chabad.org]

the day Cain killed Abel, as well as Chanukah miracle
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer






the day that will mark the special "holy" day of the new Millennial King...

ie: Thanksgiving

ah ha

that makes perfect sense suddenly

does it not?

indeed
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I dunno. Thanksgiving is an arbitrary date that changes each year (in US) and has little significance historically. Maybe you could explain a bit more?
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Interesting that ISON is due on Thanksgiving Day - 11/28/13

It is also the first day of Chanukah - 25 Kislev,5774

and according to this

[link to www.chabad.org]

the day Cain killed Abel, as well as Chanukah miracle
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer

the day that will mark the special "holy" day of the new Millennial King...

ie: Thanksgiving

ah ha

that makes perfect sense suddenly

does it not?

indeed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42417880


I dunno. Thanksgiving is an arbitrary date that changes each year (in US) and has little significance historically. Maybe you could explain a bit more?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz



It's not arbitrary at all - always on the last Thursday (Thor's Day) of November
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Re: Star of Bethlehem really a comet? Chinese described a comet in 5 B.C. with same features as COMET ISON!!
Interesting that ISON is due on Thanksgiving Day - 11/28/13

It is also the first day of Chanukah - 25 Kislev,5774

and according to this

[link to www.chabad.org]

the day Cain killed Abel, as well as Chanukah miracle
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer

the day that will mark the special "holy" day of the new Millennial King...

ie: Thanksgiving

ah ha

that makes perfect sense suddenly

does it not?

indeed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42417880


I dunno. Thanksgiving is an arbitrary date that changes each year (in US) and has little significance historically. Maybe you could explain a bit more?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz



It's not arbitrary at all - always on the last Thursday (Thor's Day) of November
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


And in Canada, 2nd Monday of Oct. The rest of the world? No such thing. Looking into Thor's Day, Thx
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Yep the Chinese called it Red Dragon. Mother Shipton called it Fiery Dragon. Many names all over the world in history.

Thanksgiving is a freemason crap under tptb trying to keep the dark art alive.
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Yep the Chinese called it Red Dragon. Mother Shipton called it Fiery Dragon. Many names all over the world in history.

Thanksgiving is a freemason crap under tptb trying to keep the dark art alive.
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that's why it's on Thor's Day ;)
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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This is a very interesting thread. Thanks OP! 5 stars for you!
Quran 8:12- Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you:
give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers:
smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith - 7.88: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
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Hey, Rev - where's you get such a specific date for ISON's arrival, can you link?

Thanks!
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When the Jews return to Zion
And a comet rips the sky
And the Holy Roman Empire rises
Then you and I must die
From the eternal sea he rises
Building armies on either shore
Pitting man against his brother
Till man exists no more.
It doesn't matter what you see, or into it what you read.
You can do it your own way.
If it's done just how I say.
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 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Hey, Rev - where's you get such a specific date for ISON's arrival, can you link?

Thanks!
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


It's actually the date ISON will arrive at The Sun ;)

"will be favorably placed for viewing, first in the morning sky before perihelion passage on Nov. 28,"

[link to www.space.com]
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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