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Found this , am curious what do you think ?

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"I am also studying Daniel and the Book Of Revelations… and after becoming one of the pharmaceutical companies many victims, my eyes have been opened. Some years ago, the word “sorcery” may have been attributed to illegal drugs or witchcraft… now it has become apparent, given the Greek origin of the word (pharmakeia/one who poisons)… reference is to pharmaceuticals… here’s why: TODAY, hidden from the general public, a POISON has been allowed into mainstream medicine, to be legally prescribed to patients. When we take an “antibiotic” prescribed by our doctor, we assume it is truly that, an antibiotic… unfortunately the FDA, being the most corrupt gov agency, has allowed BigPharma to label a TOXIC drug, an “antibiotic”. How many times have you said you took “an antibiotic”?? Well, all antibiotics are NOT created equal!! There is a class, just ONE class of “antibiotic” that works differently from every other antibiotic on the market… it is called a “Fluoroquinolone” …and it “works” by damaging DNA. Furthermore, it damages DNA at the mitochondria level, this is what gets passed from mother to child.

Fluoroquinolones are marketed in a way that leads the patient to believe these are simple antibiotics. Nothing could be further from the truth. ALL Fluoroquinolones are toxic to cells thereby negatively affecting all bodily systems. The damage that they cause is wide and varied… depending on many variables.

The Fluoroquinolones, a POISON drug masquerading as an “antibiotic” include CIPRO/Ciprofloxacin, LEVAQUIN/Levofloxacin, AVELOX/Moxifloxacin, FLOXIN/Ofloxacin, VIGAMOX/Moxifloxacin in eyedrop form, also Zymar eyedrops …and many removed from the market over the years… also within the VETERINARY Community, BAYTRIL/Enrofloxacin and several others POISONING our beloved PETS!!

My eyes were opened when I became a victim of Johnson & Johnson’s LEVAQUIN and Bayer’s AVELOX, both Fluoroquinolones… prescribed in 2003 to treat a sinus. Little did I know, I was not alone.

The POISONING of America… or rather the WORLD (as this is a global issue) has been going on for years right under our noses, how or why would we ever suspect the very ones we have put our faith and trust in??! Their hidden agenda is depopulation!! But their bottom line is PROFIT!! What better way to accomplish BOTH goals.. slowly poison us w/ a drug we are led to believe is an “antibiotic”, something we need in order to stay healthy (or so we thought)… and profit off us by making us sick in the first place. And through this one class of “antibiotic”, KEEP us sick!! WHO would ever hold an “antibiotic” suspect??!

On my journey into the evil world of pharmaceuticals I’ve learned that the FDA LIES and DENIES, our laws are in place to protect the pharm co’s, NOT US. The FDA, BigPharma, WHO and the entire medical community work together keeping us sick for PROFIT!! And they are accomplishing this goal through the prescribing of a Fluoroquinolone “antibiotic”. IT IS A DEATH PILL.

I have seen the face of Satan and it was in my DOCTOR!! I have witnessed evil and it IS the FDA and WHO (World Health Organization) and the pharmaceutical companies. They walk hand in hand. They CONTROL the world… with LIES and GREED, they decide who lives and dies…. many after ingesting this one poison. A slow insidious death…

There is NO doubt in my mind that this is what we are reading in Revelations… the poisoning, crippling and maiming of God’s people through these poisons, this pharmaceutical LIE, well-orchestrated and well-hidden. I know because it happened to me… and I came to this conclusion on my own. I now see that I am not alone.

I have been involved in advocacy, promoting awareness of “Fluoroquinolone Toxicity” for several years… please help as you spread the Word of GOD!! FQRESEARCH.ORG and FQVICTIMS.ORG Please WIKI, YouTube and friend on FB “Fluoroquinolone Research Foundation”…. search the “Johnson & Johnson Levaquin Tendon Rupture Lawsuits” and Bayer’s CIPRO Lawsuits. Please know that Fluoroquinolones have been Black-Boxed (the strongest warning before being pulled from the market) and even so, CONGRESS passed a LAW that states that generic drugs do NOT have to carry the same warnings as the brand… at the same time, TWELVE different manufacturers have been approved to make GENERIC LEVAQUIN… WITHOUT the BLACK-BOX WARNING!!

ONE of these manufacturers just happens to be FUJIFILM… yes the PHOTO COMPANY!! WHY?? PROFIT!!

THEY DO NOT CARE IF YOU DIE AS LONG AS THERE IS MONEY FOR THEM.

WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN IS ALL TRUE… AND IT IS ONLY THE BEGINNING."
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no Christians in the house?
How about non-believers?
Thoughts on the medicine?

Anyone have a thought or care about this AT ALL?
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thank you for the info. I had no idea about those antibiotics.
Yes, I believe there are those who pretend to be doing
good and are not. Some are aware of what they are doing some are not.
we are in a Spiritual war, the only thing we can do is what
you are doing, spread the word, both what is negative and positive.
Do the best we can and optimize our ability for God to work through us,
because a lot of this is way more than any human can handle.
I will spread the info
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no Christians in the house?
How about non-believers?
Thoughts on the medicine?

Anyone have a thought or care about this AT ALL?
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Right on my friend and brother...

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is there any way of helping your body repair itself or addressing the damage from fluoroquinolones?
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It's 100% true, I knew about the Greek word for pharmaceutical and sorcery being the same word!
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Yes, it is sorcery alright.

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What are some of the symptoms OP? My daughter was on some crazy antibiotic cocktails when she got MRSA close to her brain. I can't remember what they all were but her meds cost aprx $1000 per week!
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thank you for the info. I had no idea about those antibiotics.
Yes, I believe there are those who pretend to be doing
good and are not. Some are aware of what they are doing some are not.
we are in a Spiritual war, the only thing we can do is what
you are doing, spread the word, both what is negative and positive.
Do the best we can and optimize our ability for God to work through us,
because a lot of this is way more than any human can handle.
I will spread the info
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You are very welcome, Bro. or sister. We most certainly are in a spiritual battle : there is a warfare for our minds/SOULS...so onward Christian soldier!!

Amen, Bro/Sis!Do what we can for the Lord and keep spreading His Truth and oppose all deception!
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1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
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Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
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no Christians in the house?
How about non-believers?
Thoughts on the medicine?

Anyone have a thought or care about this AT ALL?
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Right on my friend and brother...

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My post...
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Bless you. Thank you for reply and shared link , have it pulled up now, haven't the time to read/digest just yet but give you my word I promise to read!
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OP
is there any way of helping your body repair itself or addressing the damage from fluoroquinolones?
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Honestly have no clue. This was news to me this a.m . Something we will have to study into .. My thread post was someone elses , from a comment made at another site > When I found it , I was looking into this verse :

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

"Sorceries all nations were deceived." It's really scary to think of big pharma as being this but am believing Prozacs etc desensitize us to things of God , helps aid in the spiritual deception..

Suggestion: You could make a comment to the commenter of the post. Possibly they will have more answers/info.
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It's 100% true, I knew about the Greek word for pharmaceutical and sorcery being the same word!
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Believing along the same lines as I have the greek too.

My dad was a physician .
This bothers me..I know he loved people , wanted to help cure/treat people and wished to help but... man , I feel he was sOOO deceived...
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G5331
φαρμακεία

pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
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Yes, it is sorcery alright.

[link to logok.org]

Come quickly Lord Jesus ! Save us from this crazy world.
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Some think that the Bible was referring to JUSt the mind altering drugs to cause trances/visions, etc.
But LOOK at what these drugs are doing ... adverse reactions and look at all the drugs in our food, flourides in water, etc. , GMO's/ FDA 's genetically altering us even down to our dna!!!
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As with anything else in this world, medicines can be abused. Alcohol is not evil in itself, but getting hammered can certainly lead to unpleasant things. Even in Revelation we see that some leaves "are for the healing of the nations".

So while it is true that pharmakea can be rendered either drugs or sorcery, the intent is what matters.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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As with anything else in this world, medicines can be abused. Alcohol is not evil in itself, but getting hammered can certainly lead to unpleasant things. Even in Revelation we see that some leaves "are for the healing of the nations".

So while it is true that pharmakea can be rendered either drugs or sorcery, the intent is what matters.
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My dad's intention was good .. ty for that.

Pharma often puts POISONS into the drugs, mercury /gardisil etc in vaccines: TheIR intent is not a good one though, now is it? Especially when "they" wish to depopulize and control.

Who again is the prince of the power of the air? Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Yep satan is going strong today, seeking to kill, steal, and destroy .
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NO, IT CANNOT BE DEBUNKED, MY BIBLE SAYS PHARMACEUTICALS THATS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED IT.. WHICH COINCIDENTALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WORLDS LARGEST PRESCRIBER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
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What are some of the symptoms OP? My daughter was on some crazy antibiotic cocktails when she got MRSA close to her brain. I can't remember what they all were but her meds cost aprx $1000 per week!
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Hope she is ok now.. bless her heart! (my spouse got MRSA = his were like 10,000 a month. It is kind of strange he caught it AT the hospital.
Meds are ridiculously high priced . OUCH!

sorry, I could not answer you question previously , advised to comment /ask the lady who made the comment. Maybe she have answers to your question.
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NO, IT CANNOT BE DEBUNKED, MY BIBLE SAYS PHARMACEUTICALS THATS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED IT.. WHICH COINCIDENTALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WORLDS LARGEST PRESCRIBER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
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wow!!! really? Which Bible do you use , please?
I was unaware it was actually there before ..besides in the greek!
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NO, IT CANNOT BE DEBUNKED, MY BIBLE SAYS PHARMACEUTICALS THATS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED IT.. WHICH COINCIDENTALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WORLDS LARGEST PRESCRIBER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
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wow!!! really? Which Bible do you use , please?
I was unaware it was actually there before ..besides in the greek!
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Mine is in greek...
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And do not forget GMO crops are considered Pharmacrops..


the bible says that Pharmaceuticals are why God destroys mystery Babylon because they spread it too the whole world!
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NO, IT CANNOT BE DEBUNKED, MY BIBLE SAYS PHARMACEUTICALS THATS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED IT.. WHICH COINCIDENTALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WORLDS LARGEST PRESCRIBER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
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wow!!! really? Which Bible do you use , please?
I was unaware it was actually there before ..besides in the greek!
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Mine is in greek...
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"Pharmaceuticals" is a derived, transliterated word. What appears in the Greek text is "pharmakea" (with various affixes).
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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NO, IT CANNOT BE DEBUNKED, MY BIBLE SAYS PHARMACEUTICALS THATS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED IT.. WHICH COINCIDENTALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WORLDS LARGEST PRESCRIBER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
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wow!!! really? Which Bible do you use , please?
I was unaware it was actually there before ..besides in the greek!
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Mine is in greek...
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OH! lol ..gotcha! I cannot read Greek in its origin /have to rely on Strongs .

Also I didn't really know the RCC was the largest prescribed ! TY for the info!
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And do not forget GMO crops are considered Pharmacrops..


the bible says that Pharmaceuticals are why God destroys mystery Babylon because they spread it too the whole world!
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Yeah, they are poisoning/altering us with those GMOs!

That is my interpretation also!!
Thank you for your reply! Had forgotten the GMO are actually called Pharmacrops!
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NO, IT CANNOT BE DEBUNKED, MY BIBLE SAYS PHARMACEUTICALS THATS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED IT.. WHICH COINCIDENTALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WORLDS LARGEST PRESCRIBER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
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wow!!! really? Which Bible do you use , please?
I was unaware it was actually there before ..besides in the greek!
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Mine is in greek...
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"Pharmaceuticals" is a derived, transliterated word. What appears in the Greek text is "pharmakea" (with various affixes).
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Yes, it is a derivative - that I am trying to understand.
What is your understanding ?
This was in my strongs - not exactly sure what you are saying. Mind elaborating or giving us your interpretation TY!!


G5331
φαρμακεία


pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraf
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Pharmakea was from this word
G5332
φαρμακεύς

pharmakeus
far-mak-yoos'
From φάρμακον pharmakon (a drug, that is, spell giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, that is, (by extension) a magician: - sorcerer.
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"Pharmaceuticals" is a derived, transliterated word. What appears in the Greek text is "pharmakea" (with various affixes).
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Yes, it is a derivative - that I am trying to understand.
What is your understanding ?
This was in my strongs - not exactly sure what you are saying. Mind elaborating or giving us your interpretation TY!!


G5331
φαρμακεία


pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39740519


It's a shame we can't type Greek or Hebrew here, so what I do is try to transliterate.

Strong's is fine for casual use, but it really isn't well-regarded by scholars as a deep word study tool. The two best-regarded lexicons are BGAD and LSJ, the latter of which I have in print (the abridged or "middle Liddel").

The entry for "pharmakeia" begins with "the use of drugs" with primary use being for poisoning or witchcraft. But the secondary is "remedy, cure". So as with any other word, we have to go to the context to find out which meaning fits best. And unfortunately, not all Biblical references are clear, such as the one in Revelation; we simply cannot tell whether the people won't repent of their drug use or their sorcery.

The word "pharmaceuticals" as a derivitave means that it does not appear in the NT in that form, and I don't know if it appears that way in any Greek literature at all. It's likely an English derivative then, meaning an adapted variant to describe anything related to drugs.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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As in my bible 5331: Sorcery: Pharmakeia; from 5332 medication ("pharmacy"') i.e. (by extence) magic (lit or fig.): sorcery, witchcraft:

5332 Pharmakeus, from Pharmakon (A drug, i.e. spell giving potion) a druggist ('pharmacist") or Poisoner, i.e. by extense a magician or sorcerer.


This is why Nato will be completely destroyed...
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It's a shame we can't type Greek or Hebrew here, so what I do is try to transliterate.

Strong's is fine for casual use, but it really isn't well-regarded by scholars as a deep word study tool. The two best-regarded lexicons are BGAD and LSJ, the latter of which I have in print (the abridged or "middle Liddel").

The entry for "pharmakeia" begins with "the use of drugs" with primary use being for poisoning or witchcraft. But the secondary is "remedy, cure". So as with any other word, we have to go to the context to find out which meaning fits best. And unfortunately, not all Biblical references are clear, such as the one in Revelation; we simply cannot tell whether the people won't repent of their drug use or their sorcery.

The word "pharmaceuticals" as a derivitave means that it does not appear in the NT in that form, and I don't know if it appears that way in any Greek literature at all. It's likely an English derivative then, meaning an adapted variant to describe anything related to drugs.
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Thank you for your time in elaborating. Ok, I know from where you are coming now/have understanding . tyvm. In looking at the world today, with so many people being medicated!! and other world issues, I see this not just being the drug abusers, I think it is talking about them as a ''whole" used to deceive the nations!!!
How else could they ''deceive" all nations? If some good/some bad. There should be a word that would separate the too imo.
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As in my bible 5331: Sorcery: Pharmakeia; from 5332 medication ("pharmacy"') i.e. (by extence) magic (lit or fig.): sorcery, witchcraft:

5332 Pharmakeus, from Pharmakon (A drug, i.e. spell giving potion) a druggist ('pharmacist") or Poisoner, i.e. by extense a magician or sorcerer.


This is why Nato will be completely destroyed...
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Tend to agree thusfar!!! (unless someone here changes my mind about that!)
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As in my bible 5331: Sorcery: Pharmakeia; from 5332 medication ("pharmacy"') i.e. (by extence) magic (lit or fig.): sorcery, witchcraft:

5332 Pharmakeus, from Pharmakon (A drug, i.e. spell giving potion) a druggist ('pharmacist") or Poisoner, i.e. by extense a magician or sorcerer.


This is why Nato will be completely destroyed...
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Tend to agree thusfar!!! (unless someone here changes my mind about that!)
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It all Goes back to one family... The Rockefellers... they control the entire medical industry. Including which pharmaceuticals are approved or not..


thousands of drugs and treatments have been turned down by the FDA because they actually work to cure disease! They will never be approved.. see the Rockefeller family is all about agenda 21 and population control..


they are the most evil family on the planet.. they are also the head of both the CFR and the United Nations!





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