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GLP Book Club: Enders Game by Orson Scott Card

 
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Tomorrow afternoon we discuss once I am done with work. I picked this book off my shelf today after not having read it for at least 15 years. I plowed through it and am almost done, but am a little too drunk to discuss it now. I will wait for tomorrow.

Until then feel free to discuss without me.

The number one thing that strikes me is the day to day technology they use. Card was a fucking visionary, the things that don't even exist today, you can see technology leading to.

The other thing that strikes me is the manipulation his siblings use of "the net" (what we would consider forums today). He wrote the book in 1977, how the fuck did he know about the internet?

Anyways, I will get more into this thread tomorrow, headed to bed now. Going to finish the book and work tomorrow, be back after.

God damn the book was practically falling apart. Old, paperback, turning colors and falling apart.
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book great book I read it last year ! Hope the movie is good .
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yeah i hope they don't ruin the movie like they did with the golden compass, just because they didn't like the storyline.

idiots don't get that's what make them good in the first place!
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book great book I read it last year ! Hope the movie is good .
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Oh? I didn't know they were making a movie and while I was reading it wondered why no one had yet.

You know the movie will be a let down. Anyone who has ever gone to see a movie that they already read the book for is dissapointed.

Jurassic Park, awesome fucking movie when I saw it, then I read the book. Ten times better.

The Hunt for Red October, great movie. Book ten times better. Clancy books have made great movies (with the exception of "The Sum of All Fears"), but they are nothing compared with the books.
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Getting back to Enders Game, I remembered some of the ending but not all. I forgot how great the ending was, I am almost intrigued to find and read the sequel, but I get a feeling it won't hold me as much as the original.

He said he drew inspiration from Isaac Asimov.
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Great book. One of my favorites.

The rest of the series should be avoided though.
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Great book. One of my favorites.

The rest of the series should be avoided though.
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Noted, thanks for the heads up.
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Great book. One of my favorites.

The rest of the series should be avoided though.
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I disagree.

The book where Ender is 1000 years old and on the piggie planet was pretty good.

It's not great like the first by any stretch, but still good.

Kinda like Dune. The first book is amazing, the rest are good.
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I've read it about 7 times.

Each time was in one sitting.

It's one of my favorite books of all time!
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Yea, if I hadn't put it down to check out things on here and YT I probably would have finished it all yesterday. It is long enough to tell it's story but short enough to make it an easy read to pass the time.
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Speaking of Jurasic Park, I think I might read 1 and 2 of that series next. My paperback of the original is quite old, I have read it many times.
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Tomorrow afternoon we discuss once I am done with work. I picked this book off my shelf today after not having read it for at least 15 years. I plowed through it and am almost done, but am a little too drunk to discuss it now. I will wait for tomorrow.

Until then feel free to discuss without me.

The number one thing that strikes me is the day to day technology they use. Card was a fucking visionary, the things that don't even exist today, you can see technology leading to.

The other thing that strikes me is the manipulation his siblings use of "the net" (what we would consider forums today). He wrote the book in 1977, how the fuck did he know about the internet?

Anyways, I will get more into this thread tomorrow, headed to bed now. Going to finish the book and work tomorrow, be back after.

God damn the book was practically falling apart. Old, paperback, turning colors and falling apart.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


DARPA was doing the precursor of the Goreian "Interwebs", back in the late 60s, early 70s.

Maybe Card had an "in", gnomesayin'?
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BTW, I have read the book, and found it excellent, after a hiatus of about 20 years from reading "SF."
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Tomorrow afternoon we discuss once I am done with work. I picked this book off my shelf today after not having read it for at least 15 years. I plowed through it and am almost done, but am a little too drunk to discuss it now. I will wait for tomorrow.

Until then feel free to discuss without me.

The number one thing that strikes me is the day to day technology they use. Card was a fucking visionary, the things that don't even exist today, you can see technology leading to.

The other thing that strikes me is the manipulation his siblings use of "the net" (what we would consider forums today). He wrote the book in 1977, how the fuck did he know about the internet?

Anyways, I will get more into this thread tomorrow, headed to bed now. Going to finish the book and work tomorrow, be back after.

God damn the book was practically falling apart. Old, paperback, turning colors and falling apart.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


DARPA was doing the precursor of the Goreian "Interwebs", back in the late 60s, early 70s.

Maybe Card had an "in", gnomesayin'?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42702744


Hmmm, like Tom Clancy?

Clancy was writing about the ECHELON program years ago. Also, you can reason that anything in his books is probably at least 5 years out of date.

That is why none of this NSA stuff surprised me, I knew of this ability long before I ever discovered GLP.
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BTW, I have read the book, and found it excellent, after a hiatus of about 20 years from reading "SF."
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I honestly don't read much SciFi, considering how much I love the subject and how many SciFi movies I watch. You know, I have Bradburry's The Martian Chronicles on my bookshelf and don't think I have ever read it a second time. It's short and might provide a good escape tomorrow.
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One of the best stories ever written. please don't fuck up the movie...

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BTW, I have read the book, and found it excellent, after a hiatus of about 20 years from reading "SF."
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I honestly don't read much SciFi, considering how much I love the subject and how many SciFi movies I watch. You know, I have Bradburry's The Martian Chronicles on my bookshelf and don't think I have ever read it a second time. It's short and might provide a good escape tomorrow.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Go for it Chas!

Bradbury was one of the best, and you know that we are the Martians, anyway!

cheers
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One of the best stories ever written. please don't fuck up the movie...


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OH SHIT!

I hadn't gone looking for a trailer yet!

Harrison Ford as Col. Graff? Looks fucking epic.

Please don't fuck it up!!!
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One of the best stories ever written. please don't fuck up the movie...


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OH SHIT!

I hadn't gone looking for a trailer yet!

Harrison Ford as Col. Graff? Looks fucking epic.

Please don't fuck it up!!!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


:yes:

As long as they stick tight to the actual story, it could be REALLY good. The actors are top notch in it.
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One of the best stories ever written. please don't fuck up the movie...


 Quoting: Septenary Man


OH SHIT!

I hadn't gone looking for a trailer yet!

Harrison Ford as Col. Graff? Looks fucking epic.

Please don't fuck it up!!!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


I'm sure Hollyweird will find a way to make it politically correct, LGBT-friendly and Zio-Communistic.

drevil
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One of the best stories ever written. please don't fuck up the movie...


 Quoting: Septenary Man


OH SHIT!

I hadn't gone looking for a trailer yet!

Harrison Ford as Col. Graff? Looks fucking epic.

Please don't fuck it up!!!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


yes

As long as they stick tight to the actual story, it could be REALLY good. The actors are top notch in it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It is on the shorter side of novels, so there might be a chance...
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Re: GLP Book Club: Enders Game by Orson Scott Card
One of the best stories ever written. please don't fuck up the movie...


 Quoting: Septenary Man


OH SHIT!

I hadn't gone looking for a trailer yet!

Harrison Ford as Col. Graff? Looks fucking epic.

Please don't fuck it up!!!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


I'm sure Hollyweird will find a way to make it politically correct, LGBT-friendly and Zio-Communistic.

drevil
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It's interesting you mention "Communistic" with all the references to the Warsaw Pact in the book. It will be interesting to see how they handle that.
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EXACTLY what I was thinking, Charlie. It is a rather simple story as well. Not something crazy complex.
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While Ender's Game, and the entire series, are really good, the Ender's Shadow series actually deals with things that are indeed happening now (in regards to the political symbolism)
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Like WWZ, there is no way hollyweird could do it justice. For one thing it's too violent and you know they are not going to go for that.
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Re: GLP Book Club: Enders Game by Orson Scott Card
Great book. One of my favorites.

The rest of the series should be avoided though.
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Noted, thanks for the heads up.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


don't listen to this guy. the first book is great, an easier to handle, but the other 7 books are excellent as well.

the remaining 3 in the first set are about ender's life while out in space/visiting other planets

the other series of 4 is about the remainder of Ender's crew back on Earth after he's left the planet. all of the different characters end up in positions of political power across the different nations of the planet.

great reading...
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I haven't read this.

Thanks for giving me a good book to read. Have bee looking for something.

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Looking on his wikipedia page now it says he is co-producing it. There is some hope.

The above poster is probably right though. There is quite a bit of violence in it to come from a child. Even though the basic premise of the book is how these things helped to shape Ender into what he needed to be to win.

One thing it probably won't go a lot into is some of the tactics and strategies he uses. Your average movie audience is to daft to appreciate them and would become bored. It is such an intricate part of the main character though, his ability to quickly ascertain a situation and develop tactics to deal with it.
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I haven't read this.

Thanks for giving me a good book to read. Have bee looking for something.

.
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It's the first and best.

I wouldn't bother with the sequels - they're pretty gay.
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Re: GLP Book Club: Enders Game by Orson Scott Card
Great book. One of my favorites.

The rest of the series should be avoided though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Noted, thanks for the heads up.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


don't listen to this guy. the first book is great, an easier to handle, but the other 7 books are excellent as well.

the remaining 3 in the first set are about ender's life while out in space/visiting other planets

the other series of 4 is about the remainder of Ender's crew back on Earth after he's left the planet. all of the different characters end up in positions of political power across the different nations of the planet.

great reading...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21666560


Hmmm, thanks for your opinion. Damn, I wish I still lived in my old town, they had a great used bookstore, could get great books for just a couple of bucks. Maybe I will take a trip out to barnes and noble soon and see if I can find the sequel there. Speaker for the Dead I think it is.
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I haven't read this.

Thanks for giving me a good book to read. Have bee looking for something.

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 Quoting: Bluebird


Great book, you won't be disappointed.
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