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Channel 4 to broadcast daily Muslim call to prayer during Ramadan next month; update

 
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I'm amazed at how many people still flip through channels and radio stations.

We don't need entertainment to decide for us anymore. We have awesome things called Search Bar and USB drives in the car for iphones.
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I see nobody has read the article where the Muslim spokesperson clearly states that they are aiming to turn the UK Islamic and will have their laws here by 2015. Now then as a UK citizen im not having that. Religion is all bullshit and needs to be banned
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This figures!! What this means is that the New World Order is about to betray the English and Europeans by making Islam a conquering force for them. This is their M.O. and they have been doing this for decades. They want to reduce white Anglo Europeans and replace them with the other Muslim races and other nationalities. That way, you white Europeans will lose all of your rights; and they will also make these foreigners actually have the right to kill you. While the NWO are living in hundreds and thousands of palaces.

But these Satanist/Luciferians will be defeated by the Almighty God of Heaven!! And their eternal sufferings will be extremely harsh and very agonizing in the worst parts of the lake of fire and brimstone!!
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This figures!! What this means is that the New World Order is about to betray the English and Europeans by making Islam a conquering force for them. This is their M.O. and they have been doing this for decades. They want to reduce white Anglo Europeans and replace them with the other Muslim races and other nationalities. That way, you white Europeans will lose all of your rights; and they will also make these foreigners actually have the right to kill you. While the NWO are living in hundreds and thousands of palaces.

But these Satanist/Luciferians will be defeated by the Almighty God of Heaven!! And their eternal sufferings will be extremely harsh and very agonizing in the worst parts of the lake of fire and brimstone!!
 Quoting: moses787


They are very clever; those NWO fellows, they just know how to tune the clocks. In the UK the Big Ben in Westminster, have been supping the the time to the British public without losing any time at all. Some say they learnt their time keeping while serving the Illuminati. Watch the milk production in the stock market, to get a sense of the schemes they deploy. Crafty devils
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The Saying of Allaah (which means): {And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikeen (disbelievers and atheists)…} [Quran 2:221] is a clear text that prohibits marrying a Muslim woman to a non Muslim man. The negation in the Sayings of Allaah (which mean): {And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse….} [Quran 17:32], {And do not kill the soul [i.e. person] which Allaah has forbidden…,}[Quran 17:33], denotes prohibition, as it denotes prohibition in the verse in question. All Muslim scholars have agreed in a consensus without any difference that marrying a Muslim woman to a non Muslim is forbidden.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That ?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42696565


It is not written "give not your daughters". Please sir, learn arabic & learn to read the Quran in arabic. The word "daughters" is not even mentioned.

It's a direct speech, first to men, then to women, the word "don't give your daughters" is lying on the Quran & lying to what god said. Please learn arabic when you want to discuss the Quran.
I speak arabic. I'm an arab. Arabic is my native language, I've been reading the Quran for years.

All muslim scholars -you mean sunna scholars & shia scholars ,, right ?- who've been killing each other for years, who accused anybody who doesn't follow their opinion to be "infedel" ? those are the scholars you mean ?

The scholars who said that god has legs ? the scholars who said that Mohammed married a child ? the scholars who said that women are devils ?

I read arabic friend. I have copies of Bukari, Muslim & the other books you call "islamic". I saw what is in them.

ISLAM IS THE QURAN. I don't believe your scholars, I don't follow your scholars. I follow the word of god.

The word of god didn't mention "your daughters" in the verse, the word of god was a speech to men, then to women. Learn arabic sir to know that I'm telling the total truth.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe your scholars. If you want to venture & follow them, then go ahead.

I follow the direct word of god. Muslim women are allowed to marry christians & jews.
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The Saying of Allaah (which means): {And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikeen (disbelievers and atheists)…} [Quran 2:221] is a clear text that prohibits marrying a Muslim woman to a non Muslim man. The negation in the Sayings of Allaah (which mean): {And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse….} [Quran 17:32], {And do not kill the soul [i.e. person] which Allaah has forbidden…,}[Quran 17:33], denotes prohibition, as it denotes prohibition in the verse in question. All Muslim scholars have agreed in a consensus without any difference that marrying a Muslim woman to a non Muslim is forbidden.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That ?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42696565


Christians & Jews are not pagans or non-believers. They pray & believe in god, just like us. They have lost the way, they went to a wrong path, but does that mean they don't believe in god ?

When a christian prays, he/she says : "Dear lord, ....", please friend, don't convince me that they don't pray for god, the same who we believe in !

MUSLIM WOMEN ARE ALLOWED TO MARRY CHRISTIANS & JEWS. Because both believe in god, even if they lost the right path & corrupted their religion -like your scholars".
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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
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Wake-up...You've been hypnotized!
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You wont get thru' to some people ,just let this upset The Archers on radio 4 at 2pm then there will be serious trouble ...... we are going to be forced Muslims wether we like it or not there is already Sharia Law practiced is some areas and if our Government becomes any more complacent they will be in the first row bowing down ..............jihad
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And you islamoslaves better fucking pray!



Britain is toast.
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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
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or just put another wedge in to open the divide even more, it seems obvious to me that they constantly push and create the hatred towards muslims.
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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
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You're possessed you got them muslim demons in you now.
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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34260214


or just put another wedge in to open the divide even more, it seems obvious to me that they constantly push and create the hatred towards muslims.
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maybe that's why they do it
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Channel 4 is to broadcast the Muslim call to prayer during Ramadan this year, it revealed yesterday. It is believed to be the first time a mainstream British television channel has broadcast the Islamic call to prayer.

Starting next week, the broadcaster will transmit the morning call to prayer daily for the 30 days of Ramadan.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

One step closer to the total islamification of Britain.
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In Our Land, This Land...


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As a Muslim I think this is great.
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Muslims are going to be the new Jews, own all the businesses and keeping to themselves.
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I appreciate that act. Islam is a religion & believe, nobody is forcing it on the others. A call for prayer in a channel is not "islamification", have some self-esteem british, your country ; you have the upper hand.

Stop the drama & the whining, and don't feel mad when people believe this religion & start practicing it. But try to ask yourself : why is it spreading so widely, despite the ongoing propaganda against it ?

Islam is a religion. Nobody is forcing it on you. I'm a muslim, and if I had christians in my country, I will not be mad when muslim channels feature their prayers.
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no country that isnt backwards ass should get involved with religion like that.
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As far as I know, a country is a place that contains people ; the people have the right to choose their faith.

When you have a large portion which like to "adapt" religious pov, you don't have the right to take that away from them.

The country -which is a reflection of the people- should respect its citizens & their religion.

You don't have the right to take that away from people, I honestly don't want to be rude -it's forbidden in my religion to talk rudely-, but you can change the channel or block it if you didn't like its content.
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I stopped flicking on channel 4 a long time ago because the programs were too painful to watch.

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As a Muslim I think this is great.
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Not really.

What they are really doing is attempting to 'make up' for the fact that they will NOT publicize the Truth about Islam: that Mohammed was Elijah and John the Baptist 'raised from the dead' and that Mohammed taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'--just like Isaiah, Daniel and Jesus.

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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
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Songs of Praise is on once a week on a Sunday afternoon/evening - not every day! and before you say it's only during ramadan, how long before it's for every other muslim celebration, then every day of the year?
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Look you rabid racist ! Because , lets be honest , that's your agenda , not religion . There is plentychristian religious programmes on many channels on uk , bbc radio for starters !
Piss off hitler
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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
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The Saying of Allaah (which means): {And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikeen (disbelievers and atheists)…} [Quran 2:221] is a clear text that prohibits marrying a Muslim woman to a non Muslim man. The negation in the Sayings of Allaah (which mean): {And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse….} [Quran 17:32], {And do not kill the soul [i.e. person] which Allaah has forbidden…,}[Quran 17:33], denotes prohibition, as it denotes prohibition in the verse in question. All Muslim scholars have agreed in a consensus without any difference that marrying a Muslim woman to a non Muslim is forbidden.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That ?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42696565


It is not written "give not your daughters". Please sir, learn arabic & learn to read the Quran in arabic. The word "daughters" is not even mentioned.

It's a direct speech, first to men, then to women, the word "don't give your daughters" is lying on the Quran & lying to what god said. Please learn arabic when you want to discuss the Quran.
I speak arabic. I'm an arab. Arabic is my native language, I've been reading the Quran for years.

All muslim scholars -you mean sunna scholars & shia scholars ,, right ?- who've been killing each other for years, who accused anybody who doesn't follow their opinion to be "infedel" ? those are the scholars you mean ?

The scholars who said that god has legs ? the scholars who said that Mohammed married a child ? the scholars who said that women are devils ?

I read arabic friend. I have copies of Bukari, Muslim & the other books you call "islamic". I saw what is in them.

ISLAM IS THE QURAN. I don't believe your scholars, I don't follow your scholars. I follow the word of god.

The word of god didn't mention "your daughters" in the verse, the word of god was a speech to men, then to women. Learn arabic sir to know that I'm telling the total truth.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe your scholars. If you want to venture & follow them, then go ahead.

I follow the direct word of god. Muslim women are allowed to marry christians & jews.
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Islamic scholars generally forbid Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men. This prohibition serves to preserve the Islamic faith from dilution and expand it, within societies which are patriarchal but multi-faith. It effectively ensures that over many generations, providing that the society is patriarchal, Islam would naturally gain in adherents relative to other co-existing religions, through its ability to secure the adherence of all offspring from mixed marriages. In effect, all children of any mixed-marriages involving Muslims are guaranteed to be raised as Muslim.[7] This systemic method of expanding the Muslim community in any multi-religious society is assisted by the ability for Muslim men to marry more than one non-Muslim wife (a possibility usually not available to non-Muslim men) and therefore secure all of their offspring for the Islamic faith - provided that the society is sufficiently patriarchal that the husband can have the final say on the children's religion. [8][9] There also exists a minority view that does permit convert women to remain with non-Muslim spouses as an exception to the general rule [10].


And this

n Islamic law, if a non-Muslim woman is married to a non-Muslim, and she converts to Islam, the marriage is suspended until her husband converts to Islam. She could, in theory, leave the non-Muslim husband and marry a Muslim one (analogous to the Pauline privilege among Catholics). If the non-Muslim husband does convert a new marriage is not needed. In the Quran, it is said,

O ye who believe! When there come to you believing women refugees, examine (and test) them: Allah knows best as to their Faith: if ye ascertain that they are Believers, then send them not back to the Unbelievers. They are not lawful (wives) for the Unbelievers, nor are the (Unbelievers) lawful (husbands) for them. But pay the Unbelievers what they have spent (on their dower), and there will be no blame on you if ye marry them on payment of their dower to them. But hold not to the guardianship of unbelieving women: ask for what ye have spent on their dowers, and let the (Unbelievers) ask for what they have spent (on the dowers of women who come over to you). Such is the command of Allah. He judges (with justice) between you. And Allah is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom. {Surah 60:10}


Not my scholars sorry. I don't subscribe to any major religion.
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I'm not a Muslim. But we have songs of praise as well as other program's for other religions. I think it's great that they a recognising the Muslim traditions now. It might help calm the anti Muslim violence which is rampant here in England right now.
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T W A T
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Islamic scholars generally forbid Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men. This prohibition serves to preserve the Islamic faith from dilution and expand it, within societies which are patriarchal but multi-faith. It effectively ensures that over many generations, providing that the society is patriarchal, Islam would naturally gain in adherents relative to other co-existing religions, through its ability to secure the adherence of all offspring from mixed marriages. In effect, all children of any mixed-marriages involving Muslims are guaranteed to be raised as Muslim.[7] This systemic method of expanding the Muslim community in any multi-religious society is assisted by the ability for Muslim men to marry more than one non-Muslim wife (a possibility usually not available to non-Muslim men) and therefore secure all of their offspring for the Islamic faith - provided that the society is sufficiently patriarchal that the husband can have the final say on the children's religion. [8][9] There also exists a minority view that does permit convert women to remain with non-Muslim spouses as an exception to the general rule [10].


And this

n Islamic law, if a non-Muslim woman is married to a non-Muslim, and she converts to Islam, the marriage is suspended until her husband converts to Islam. She could, in theory, leave the non-Muslim husband and marry a Muslim one (analogous to the Pauline privilege among Catholics). If the non-Muslim husband does convert a new marriage is not needed. In the Quran, it is said,

O ye who believe! When there come to you believing women refugees, examine (and test) them: Allah knows best as to their Faith: if ye ascertain that they are Believers, then send them not back to the Unbelievers. They are not lawful (wives) for the Unbelievers, nor are the (Unbelievers) lawful (husbands) for them. But pay the Unbelievers what they have spent (on their dower), and there will be no blame on you if ye marry them on payment of their dower to them. But hold not to the guardianship of unbelieving women: ask for what ye have spent on their dowers, and let the (Unbelievers) ask for what they have spent (on the dowers of women who come over to you). Such is the command of Allah. He judges (with justice) between you. And Allah is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom. {Surah 60:10}


Not my scholars sorry. I don't subscribe to any major religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42696565


First of all : islam is preserved by god. Mixed marriages would not destroy islam. I'm sure that even if the whole world stood against it, islam will still be preserved.
Children are affected by their mothers more. What about a disbelieving mom ? wouldn't she also cause division in faith, as you have described it ?

About the suspension, that is with "pagans", it is also forced on men. A man who believes would also suspend his marriage. The verse I quoted above is very clear on this matter.

About the verse you quoted ; it also proves what I just said above. a muslim woman should divorce her pagan husband, a muslim man should also divorce his pagan wife.

Again ; Quran wise, nothing supports the theory you copied, which muslim scholars believe in.

Yes, muslims -men & women- are prohibited to marry pagans, atheists, or any person who worships more than one god -including christians who believe in such ideas-.

But marrying a jew or a christian, who also prays for god, believes that god is one & only ? nothing prohibits that.

A muslim man who marries a pagan woman or an atheist woman is just lying to himself ; he's just denying the word of god.
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Excuse me while I vomit.
Wait...what country am I in???
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Channel 4 is to broadcast the Muslim call to prayer during Ramadan this year, it revealed yesterday. It is believed to be the first time a mainstream British television channel has broadcast the Islamic call to prayer.

Starting next week, the broadcaster will transmit the morning call to prayer daily for the 30 days of Ramadan.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

One step closer to the total islamification of Britain.
 Quoting: Tess2012


One step closer? Naw, you're already Muslim all the way through. Time to leave the UK and get out while you're still alive.
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Too late for those sorry-ass fuckers.
Now they want to bring it HERE.
Locked and loaded.
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Couldn't give a fuck. It's at 4am on one fucking channel out of hundreds.

Nobody is forcing you to watch it.

Pull yourselves together you complete fucking bunch of wet pussies.

Oh noes the muslims are coming! You're a bunch of brain dead fucking woowoos.
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Couldn't give a fuck. It's at 4am on one fucking channel out of hundreds.

Nobody is forcing you to watch it.

Pull yourselves together you complete fucking bunch of wet pussies.

Oh noes the muslims are coming! You're a bunch of brain dead fucking woowoos.
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You miss the entire point,dick-wad.
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I appreciate that act. Islam is a religion & believe, nobody is forcing it on the others. A call for prayer in a channel is not "islamification", have some self-esteem british, your country ; you have the upper hand.

Stop the drama & the whining, and don't feel mad when people believe this religion & start practicing it. But try to ask yourself : why is it spreading so widely, despite the ongoing propaganda against it ?

Islam is a religion. Nobody is forcing it on you. I'm a muslim, and if I had christians in my country, I will not be mad when muslim channels feature their prayers.
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Islam is NOTa religion!

It is a barbaric socio-political ideology which relies on the submission of all of its 'followers'.

It is a violent and destructive cult.It does not adapt, it does not forgive and its stated aim is the Islamification of the entire world.

I,for one,do not wish to worship a violent pedophile and I hope the people of the UK boycott Channel 4.


Liberals will destroy us all!


Allan-at-the-Snackbar!!



jihad
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why should we not live under islamic law
it would stop all western Council, House, And, Violence
lets embrace Islam and realise the Kristian faith is SATANIC and the Islamic faith that is less SATANIC and more GOOD.....SO LETS FOLLOW THE LESSER SATANIC FAITH...... and get back to egging on the contestants on the X Factor and stuff like that.......cause the X factor is in all religions in it
cause there was a guy from the Gazza strip, who won it, and all them muslims who shit on our culture, well, they wheree dancin in the streets for their lame contestant who won .....the ARAB x FACTOR.....PLUS.....DID I TELL YOU ABOUT TODAY....I SAW A MUSLIM BUYING A SCRATCH CARD, WHEN FUCKING ALLAH AND HIS M8 SAID.......DONT BUY SCRATCH CARDS CAUSE YOUL CATCH VD AND ITS AGAINST THE LAW OF ALLAH TO PUT MONEY ON THE HORSES OR STUFF LIKE THAT
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Couldn't give a fuck. It's at 4am on one fucking channel out of hundreds.

Nobody is forcing you to watch it.

Pull yourselves together you complete fucking bunch of wet pussies.

Oh noes the muslims are coming! You're a bunch of brain dead fucking woowoos.
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You miss the entire point,dick-wad.
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No, he NAILED IT.
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I accidently rented a flat next door to a mosque once.

Once.

Screaming into a cheap microphone and out cheap speakers at all hours.

Never again.
He's my President!





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