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beeches

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I have been waiting for this.

I wear what someone today called a "statement" piece of jewelry,

a beautiful cross.

I would never remove it because it might "offend" a muslime or a Satanist.

Coptics in Egypt tattoo a small cross at their wrist, on the inside.

when a man extends his hand in a handshake, it is visible.

it is their way of saying "we are not afraid of you."


Getting back to the article, some nerve. The world is truly upside down.
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Audrey Jarvis, 19, a liberal arts major at the northern California university, said she had no choice but to seek a “religious accommodation” in order to wear the cross. Her lawyer said she deserves an apology, and the school seems ready to oblige.

“It’s amazing in this day of diversity and tolerance on university campuses that a university official would engage in this type of obvious religious discrimination,” said Hiram Sasser, an attorney with Liberty Institute, which is representing Jarvis.

Jarvis was working for the university’s Associated Students Productions at a June 27 student orientation fair for incoming freshmen when her supervisor told her to remove the two-inch-long cross necklace, according to Sasser.
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This is too much, the land of the unfree.

Well I ain't gonna remove mine, let them try.

I think the universities want to be rid of Christians, of heterosexuals, of conservatives.

It's the only possible conclusion.
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She is, of course, a white young woman.


She was told not to wear it, and later, it was suggested she hide it under her shirt.

I hope her parents vote with their tuition money and get her into a university that practices

sanity.
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07/02/2013 08:14 PM
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She is, of course, a white young woman.


She was told not to wear it, and later, it was suggested she hide it under her shirt.

I hope her parents vote with their tuition money and get her into a university that practices

sanity.
 Quoting: beeches


hear, hear.
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not abandoning this thread, but I will need to leave the computer soon.


this is something, again, that I have been waiting for, since I work in the public sector.

sad, sad, and more sad.


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Re: Sonoma State University orders student to ditch cross necklace.
She is, of course, a white young woman.


She was told not to wear it, and later, it was suggested she hide it under her shirt.

I hope her parents vote with their tuition money and get her into a university that practices

sanity.
 Quoting: beeches


hear, hear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41869971


If that happened to my child at their university, it would be the last day they spend there.


Better to lose a semester than learn to obey false idols.
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On the plus side for the university, the president of the university did not agree with what happened.

The girl's mother was greatly upset, but I think it is better to know you are under attack, as a Christian, than to be under attack and not know it.

remove from us our enemies, hidden and manifest (from the Coptic liturgy)

these days the enemies are a LOT more manifest than hidden.
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Just so you don't feel crazy, I totally agree with you. No other religion in the US is as discriminated against and pushed around as Christianity.
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I bet if it was a Star of David, they wouldn't have said jack shit.
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If she was a Muslim they would have rolled the red carpet wherever she walked and probably even bowed down to her too. This is change you'll hoped for? Think not.

Also in Egypt the MB cuts the cross tattoo with a knife. Sickening.
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If she was a Muslim they would have rolled the red carpet wherever she walked and probably even bowed down to her too. This is change you'll hoped for? Think not.

Also in Egypt the MB cuts the cross tattoo with a knife. Sickening.
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I did not hope for any change from that human trash.

did my research about him a long time ago.

Yes, the MB is sickening in all its ways.
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Thread: Pro Abortionists chant "Hail satan " to prolife crowd !!!


I guess a pro-abortion stance would have made her more popular with the university administrators.
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just say you are a bi-sexual mathematician and its a plus sign
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just say you are a bi-sexual mathematician and its a plus sign
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For example.


or a transgender Maori native, if one exists.
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I used to work at SSU. Horrible place to work.
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Reich wingnut bullshittery.

The president of the university did not agree, nor is it university policy. What we have here is someone in the university that is an ass, and told a student something wrong, now FAUX news is hyping it up as if it is leading Christians to the guillotine. True Christians don't go around looking for a fight, they are looking to save souls for God.


Faux news only wants to divide, to keep the left / reich game going.... WAKE UP!


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Just so you don't feel crazy, I totally agree with you. No other religion in the US is as discriminated against and pushed around as Christianity.
 Quoting: Dug In


While i totally agree with you, i have to say that the US and her experience with Christian bashing is thus light weight in comparison to the Christians worldwide who are physically dealt with by moose-limbs!

mooslimbs101
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Reich wingnut bullshittery.

The president of the university did not agree, nor is it university policy. What we have here is someone in the university that is an ass, and told a student something wrong, now FAUX news is hyping it up as if it is leading Christians to the guillotine. True Christians don't go around looking for a fight, they are looking to save souls for God.


Faux news only wants to divide, to keep the left / reich game going.... WAKE UP!


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STFU101

Last Edited by M*walk on 07/03/2013 11:42 AM
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
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Just so you don't feel crazy, I totally agree with you. No other religion in the US is as discriminated against and pushed around as Christianity.
 Quoting: Dug In


While i totally agree with you, i have to say that the US and her experience with Christian bashing is thus light weight in comparison to the Christians worldwide who are physically dealt with by moose-limbs!

mooslimbs101
 Quoting: M*walk


but our dear president is a major supporter of Christian-killers worldwide.

We fight him here. With our crosses around our necks.

That is how we show him that we will not let his puking sharia-brother odinga kill more Christians in Africa.

that is how we show him that we are GLAD morsi is down the drain in his efforts to genocide the Coptic Christians in Egypt.

What have you done today to protect Christians?

I have not done much either, but I always have my cross on, and believe me, it is noticed.

and of course one of our family marched in Washington recently in a rally to stop the killing of Christians in Egypt.

and we donated a thousand bucks for the van to get as many members of the congregation down there as wanted to go.
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Reich wingnut bullshittery.

The president of the university did not agree, nor is it university policy. What we have here is someone in the university that is an ass, and told a student something wrong, now FAUX news is hyping it up as if it is leading Christians to the guillotine. True Christians don't go around looking for a fight, they are looking to save souls for God.


Faux news only wants to divide, to keep the left / reich game going.... WAKE UP!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36119557


STFU101
 Quoting: M*walk


Awakenend in Christ, whom do you serve?
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I bet if it was a Star of David, they wouldn't have said jack shit.
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Don't know. My husband wears a star of david with "INRI" inscribed on it, or a cross with the Star of David.

Either piece gets him some ugly stares.

but as a born Jew who joined a Coptic church, what do you expect? Roses?

nah, becoming a follower of Christ after a lifetime in Judaism does not get you brownie points.
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Re: Sonoma State University orders student to ditch cross necklace.
Reich wingnut bullshittery.

The president of the university did not agree, nor is it university policy. What we have here is someone in the university that is an ass, and told a student something wrong, now FAUX news is hyping it up as if it is leading Christians to the guillotine. True Christians don't go around looking for a fight, they are looking to save souls for God.


Faux news only wants to divide, to keep the left / reich game going.... WAKE UP!


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uh, sorry, you fail big time.


are you from Rome, the City of Seven (S)hills?
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I bet if it was a Star of David, they wouldn't have said jack shit.
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Don't know. My husband wears a star of david with "INRI" inscribed on it, or a cross with the Star of David.

Either piece gets him some ugly stares.

but as a born Jew who joined a Coptic church, what do you expect? Roses?

nah, becoming a follower of Christ after a lifetime in Judaism does not get you brownie points.
 Quoting: beeches


Edit: the stares are not from the Coptics, who are a wonderful, wonderful group of individuals. Nor do other Christians act offended, they sometimes ask what the jewelry means.

it's Jewish people who seem pulled up short - but hey, the Messiah was Jewish Himself.
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I wear crosses of all types and no one can tell me stop!
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The Beast is rising!

This is only the beginning, its gonna get much, much worse.

Rev 6:2
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
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This type of thinking on the ground leads to power grabs down the line.

I hope today on Fourth of July, we thank God for shedding his grace on America.


And also for the miracle of Egypt's liberation.

That is just what it is, a miracle.

Source: someone who was there until very recently and made it back to the States in time for Fourth of July.

"only God could have done this. The Muslim Brotherhood was too entrenched."


He also said that upon realizing the jig was up, morsi told his "supporters" to go out into the streets and kill as many people as they could.

This was related to us an hour ago in a Coptic Christian church.

Thank you, God.
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[link to www.sonoma.edu]


Well, my mistake, but it makes A LOT more sense this way:


this messed-up school is in CALIFORNIA,


not Arizona, as I had thought.

my apologies, AZ.
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They can't order her to do anything

this is a free country.

If they don't like it ; tough

She needs to fight it with a CHristian law group

If people cave to stupid bullies then they won't have any rights

they will be gone
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My daughter graduated from Sonoma State, she did well and liked the school. Having said that, if something like this had happened before she started she would've gone to a different college. Frankly, I found just the asthetics of the school unattractive and a few of her professors seemed like real assholes (these assholes she loved).
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I believe that the family of the young lady have retained an attorney and as of yesterday had not returned any of the phone calls made to her from the University. The school did issue a formal apology but there has been no response from her or her attorney to the apology.





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