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Does Math Exist In The Natural Universe, Or Was It Created by Man? A Though Provoking Video | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25902339 United States07/05/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was math discovered or was it created? Does math exist outside of the human brain? Essentially asks the question if math exists in the natural universe or if it was created by mankind as a system of understanding, explanation, and definition. Quoting: SeVeN Saints One of my favorite quotes from the video. From cognitive linguists George Lakoff and Rafael Nunez. "Math is able to model regularities in the universe which are not inherently mathematic, but are modeled and understood through math by humans" Another interesting quote "The only math that is known by humans, is the math that is knowable by humans. Mathematical realism boils down to a kind of faith. A faith in a mathematical entity, or set of entities, which is out there in the universe waiting to be discovered, and would be there regardless if there was humans or not. [link to www.youtube.com] Same as asking if rainbows exist buddy, doesn't take a scientist to realize precise or accurate measurements can first only be drawn out by an observer, much like the quantum effect of a rainbow's electromagnetic spectrum. - rog |
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| 071676 User ID: 41309091 United States07/05/2013 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regardless of the language, math is universal? Since we have yet to discover all of the universes mathmatics, it doesn't change what we already understand. Man knows that there are at least one hundred fifteen elements known to man. This is understood. That doesn't mean the end to the elements. Humans are a baby race, just starting to understand the wonders of the universe. Give mankind another one hundred thousand years and see what man knows then. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42178417 United Kingdom07/05/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't watched the video. But I'll post my opinion. Maths is a language. For communication. Simply. Some things cannot be conveyed by words alone, which is where maths and numbers come in. Everything we learn (pretty much) is just a communication tool. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42860000 United Kingdom07/05/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Math is, of course, invaluable as a DESCRIPTION of our Reality. When it dictates HOW REALITY MUST BEHAVE, then it becomes a perversion. I am, of course, referring to the perversion of Math by "theoretical astrophysicists." Math tells us that "Black Holes" exist (this has never been proven, BTW) because Math allows division by zero to result in infinity.  |
| SeVeN Saints (OP) User ID: 31808028 United States07/05/2013 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Math is, of course, invaluable as a DESCRIPTION of our Reality. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42860000 When it dictates HOW REALITY MUST BEHAVE, then it becomes a perversion. I am, of course, referring to the perversion of Math by "theoretical astrophysicists." Math tells us that "Black Holes" exist (this has never been proven, BTW) because Math allows division by zero to result in infinity. Couldnt agree more. SeVeN Saints |
| SeVeN Saints (OP) User ID: 31808028 United States07/05/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trying to remember what a math teacher said a few years back. I know its theoretically impossible, but what would you have if you found a way to get a derivative to get past 0? or even get to zero? SeVeN Saints |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24866361  Taiwan07/05/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trick question. This is to suggest that man is outside the "natural Universe" is it not? Universe creates man, man creates math, universe creates math. Besides, rules of 1/3, found throughout nature. Scared geometry.. Plenty of math in the universe. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366745 United Kingdom07/05/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess it boils down to, we are either here or not, then you may say it dosent matter if we are here or not, what matters is if SOMETHING is here or not. The answer is if maths dont exist then we arnt really here. I guess. What is a quess? |
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| ssss User ID: 42811907  Brazil07/05/2013 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Math is created by humans which is why it's got inconsistencies like -dividing by 0 -more than one infinity -imaginary numbers We invented math to help us discuss and communicate certain aspects of the universe. The same as language. Algorithms exist in nature and are discovered by man. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366745 United Kingdom07/05/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Math is created by humans which is why it's got inconsistencies like Quoting: ssss 42811907 -dividing by 0 -more than one infinity -imaginary numbers We invented math to help us discuss and communicate certain aspects of the universe. The same as language. Algorithms exist in nature and are discovered by man. What are the odds of the universe being created using a mathematical system by any number of beings? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42860000 United Kingdom07/05/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Math is created by humans which is why it's got inconsistencies like Quoting: ssss 42811907 -dividing by 0 -more than one infinity -imaginary numbers We invented math to help us discuss and communicate certain aspects of the universe. The same as language. Algorithms exist in nature and are discovered by man. What are the odds of the universe being created using a mathematical system by any number of beings? About 1, I think. |
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