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Zimmerman Trial 7/11/13 Day 22 | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43111611  United States07/11/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Ms. Superduper  User ID: 15016867 United States07/11/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: FOTN Agreed. I'm not too familiar with the US "justice" system- when can we expect a verdict? Um ... I put all that data in the OP. Don't really feel like retyping it, sorry. we answered it. <3 Thanks to you , the OP and Voltaic for your perspectives. I appreciate it. Personally I think he will walk- this explains the Judge's behaviour- she is acting because she knows that it is a clear cut case, expect a book sooner or later... ayep Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
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| Miggy User ID: 17372810 United States07/11/2013 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the jury reaches a verdict they are still in the jury room. The bailiff that is in the room tells the judge. Then it is up to the judge when the jury is called out. Remember there is a bailiff in or just out side the jury room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611 If it is going to be not guilty the judge will not call the jury back into the court room until Monday. Right, AC. But my point is that the bailiff only knows that a verdict has been reached- not what the actual verdict is. So how can the courts control the timing of an unfavorable verdict? Does anyone understand what I'm getting at?  |
| Yoda17460874 User ID: 17460874 United States07/11/2013 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will the jury hear all charges they can consider? Or guilty, not guilty of manslaughter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43158829 yes they will be given specific instructions including what charges they must rule on, the upcoming hearing (next few minutes) will finalize the charges presented to the jury Yoda am I |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13744631 United States07/11/2013 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing is for sure. Whatever the verdict is. O'mara has restored my faith in lawyers somewhat. This man was very professional, no lashing out handled witnesses from both sides very respectfully and passionately. He is a true professional in my mind and I am a new fan. Quoting: Dijact He comes across as a very genuine and likable person, which is polar opposite of how most lawyers come across. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States07/11/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The unfavorable verdict is a not-guilty verdict. Quoting: --Voltaic-- In this case, they want people at home by their TV's for the weekend viewing. If they riot, Friday afternoon is the BEST time to release the not-guilty verdict. The city looses money during riots. Keeping it over the weekend will reduce that loss by A LOT. Hi, Voltaic. I agree with this. But I've always wondered..... Does anyone know what the jury's verdict is before they actually enter the courtroom and the judge reads it? As far as I know, only the jury knows. Sometimes the judge is handed the verdict before the jury foreman reads it off, but that's pretty much moments before it's read. The judge can over turn a guilty verdict, but not a not-guilty. If she had orders to ensure a not-guilty verdict, her behavior begins to make some sense. Who knows.....speculation at this point in time. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43111611 United States07/11/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the jury reaches a verdict they are still in the jury room. The bailiff that is in the room tells the judge. Then it is up to the judge when the jury is called out. Remember there is a bailiff in or just out side the jury room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611 If it is going to be not guilty the judge will not call the jury back into the court room until Monday. Right, AC. But my point is that the bailiff only knows that a verdict has been reached- not what the actual verdict is. So how can the courts control the timing of an unfavorable verdict? Does anyone understand what I'm getting at? As I said before the bailiff that is with the jury knows. I've even seen the bailiff that is handing the slip to the judge take a peek. |
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| Ms. Superduper User ID: 15016867 United States07/11/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top of the morning from sunny Florida. Sir Phydeau, did you do this on purpose? I actually have to call you "Sir" all the time? lol ;) Quoting: H0NEYBEE Mornin' fellow Floridian. It IS extremely sunny this morning. Wonderful. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
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| geminilion User ID: 12895036 United States07/11/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering whether or not lesser charges and be brought. Jeez, I hope not. If I were George I'd be freaking out. ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
| Miggy User ID: 1445345 United States07/11/2013 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I said before the bailiff that is with the jury knows. I've even seen the bailiff that is handing the slip to the judge take a peek. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611 Aggggghhhhhhhh! I don't think I'm explaining myself very well. I'll try once more then perhaps go back to bed and start my day over.... Several posters have suggested that if the verdict is guilty it might be postponed until Monday in hopes of quelling any riots. My argument is that this is impossible since nobody knows that the jury might find guilt before they actually enter the courtroom to proclaim it. By then they can't postpone a verdict. It's out of the court's control. The jury has already been marched into the courtroom. Anybody? anybody? (crickets)  |
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| Sir Phydeau (OP) User ID: 22271457 United States07/11/2013 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top of the morning from sunny Florida. Sir Phydeau, did you do this on purpose? I actually have to call you "Sir" all the time? lol ;) Quoting: H0NEYBEE Baby, you know I don't like being called "sir" all the time. That's a title, like "mister". Folks normally call me "Phy" or "Phydeau" and you know this! :P "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43178677 United States07/11/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allowing the jury to consider lesser charges provides the perfect escape. This ruling will be huge. Quoting: GreenApple2Step The threats on seem to have ratcheted up substantially since yesterday. It's going to be a long couple of days till verdict. here's good info on the lesser charges: [link to www.mediaite.com] "the likely lesser offenses applicable to George Zimmerman are: Manslaughter; Third Degree Felony Murder; Aggravated Battery; Aggravated Assault; Felony Battery; Culpable Negligence (Argument can be made not applicable); Battery; and Assault." and there is a lot of other details/info on those charges, sentencing, etc in that link... enjoy! Never having served on a jury I don't have first hand experience. But that list (above) looks like throw it at the wall and see what sticks. I am sure the charging documents are going to be a legalese nightmare. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States07/11/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I said before the bailiff that is with the jury knows. I've even seen the bailiff that is handing the slip to the judge take a peek. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611 Aggggghhhhhhhh! I don't think I'm explaining myself very well. I'll try once more then perhaps go back to bed and start my day over.... Several posters have suggested that if the verdict is guilty it might be postponed until Monday in hopes of quelling any riots. My argument is that this is impossible since nobody knows that the jury might find guilt before they actually enter the courtroom to proclaim it. By then they can't postpone a verdict. It's out of the court's control. The jury has already been marched into the courtroom. Anybody? anybody? (crickets) Jurors have been paid off before. With the way the Judge and prosecution are playing it would not surprise me if the jury was preselected and set. |
| Yoda17460874 User ID: 17460874 United States07/11/2013 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top of the morning from sunny Florida. Sir Phydeau, did you do this on purpose? I actually have to call you "Sir" all the time? lol ;) Quoting: H0NEYBEE Baby, you know I don't like being called "sir" all the time. That's a title, like "mister". Folks normally call me "Phy" or "Phydeau" and you know this! :P Sir Phydeau, can I get a reply/explanation for yesterday (see my detailed write-up on page 3) so I know what was wrong with my posting so I don't get banned (incorrectly IMHO) again? I would like and it appears I need a clearer understanding of what is and isn't acceptable.. please and thanks! Yoda am I |
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