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So one of my daughters friends brought bedbugs into her room. I noticed them on her bed and the curtains near her bed. I keep a very clean home so I was extremely pissed. Anyways, I threw her bed away and the curtains. I also removed the carpet in her room (there are oak hard wood floors underneath. There where no bugs in the corners of the ceiling or the floor. I checked all the outlet covers and nothing there either.
I called orkin and the guy came out yesterday. He said that there is maybe a 5% chance that they are gone forever and that I should get it treated (which I was planning anyways. Then he says that Orkin would charge me $1200 to do the house (small 3 bedroom with finished basement) no carpets in any rooms anymore. Then he said because we were a nice couple and he understands that he would only charge us $840. I thought, okay this is much better, i can work that out). But then he said he knows a guy who used to work for Orkin who does great work and all the same stuff that Orkin does, and that guy would charge us $600, my wife said what about $550 and he said that he could get him to do it for that price.

When we went back outside, the Orkin guy called his "friend" and talked to him for a bit and said he could come out Thursday between 10am and noon. The part that I find fishy is,

Why did he not give us the guys number directly?
Why was he so willing to get us to go with his "friend"?
At one point I said that I would feel better going with Orkin because they are a company, and he actually tried to talk us out of that and into going with his "friend"
Do I even need to hire someone for treatment?
Does he realize that I don't and want to get his "friend" some money?

It all just seems a little fishy to me. He mentioned that he had a wife and kids about 5 times while he was here. Why so many times? Why is he trying to convince me he is such a decent guy?
Why was he adamant that we pay this guy cash, "just so it has no chance of coming back to him"? He said, the guy does cash and card but that we should pay cash because it would make him feel better.
Any thoughts?
Am I just being paranoid or is something fishy?
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07/24/2013 05:32 AM
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Fishy. The Orkin man comes out and talks you out of his companies treatment??
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07/24/2013 05:34 AM
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Fishy. The Orkin man comes out and talks you out of his companies treatment??
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Right. That is what is so odd to me. He said he makes like 30% of what is charged and then proceeds to talk me out of it because we are nice people. I own my own company and I would never talk someone out of my services because they are nice people. I just can't figure out why though?
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07/24/2013 05:40 AM
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Any other thoughts? Could use some opinions.
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All you want is results...right? But there is that old saying...you get what you pay for.

If your gut says this is fishy...tell this guy NO. Would suck if you paid him...then had to pay the Orkin guy to come back out again at full price...right?

But if price is an issue and you think it might work, ask Orkin guy if his friend will guarantee his work and have him sign something agreeing to come back out and spray again if the bugs show up. If not...say no.

You have the advantage cause you could always go to Orkin and report the employee.

Good luck...hope your problem will be solved.
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07/24/2013 05:42 AM
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A professional inspection and treatment can cost from $200 to more than $6,000, depending on the type of dwelling, location and extent of infestation. So before writing a check, make sure you really have bedbugs. A fact sheet issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Environmental Protection Agency contains photos and a wealth of other useful information. For a $20 fee, Pollack provides identification of mailed specimens or images uploaded to his website. "Many people find a bug on their bed and assume it's a bedbug when it's actually a carpet beetle or something else," he says."
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All you want is results...right? But there is that old saying...you get what you pay for.

If your gut says this is fishy...tell this guy NO. Would suck if you paid him...then had to pay the Orkin guy to come back out again at full price...right?

But if price is an issue and you think it might work, ask Orkin guy if his friend will guarantee his work and have him sign something agreeing to come back out and spray again if the bugs show up. If not...say no.

You have the advantage cause you could always go to Orkin and report the employee.

Good luck...hope your problem will be solved.
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He said the guy would give a 40 day guarantee and that Orkin only gives a 30 day. Yes if this guy does a bad job I can report the orkin guy, but then it comes down to a your word against mine thing. He also told me to tell Orkin (if they called back) that he did come out and it was to much.
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A professional inspection and treatment can cost from $200 to more than $6,000, depending on the type of dwelling, location and extent of infestation. So before writing a check, make sure you really have bedbugs. A fact sheet issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Environmental Protection Agency contains photos and a wealth of other useful information. For a $20 fee, Pollack provides identification of mailed specimens or images uploaded to his website. "Many people find a bug on their bed and assume it's a bedbug when it's actually a carpet beetle or something else," he says."
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They definitely where bedbugs, however, they where only on her mattress near the wall and on the curtains near her bed. I wold say about 100 total. They are not in any other room in the house. I threw out the mattress and box spring, curtains and the carpet in the room.
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Anything? I don't want this guy to come over and then rob my house or some shit. This just seems odd to talk someone out of professional services for a friend to make money while you make nothing.
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07/24/2013 06:03 AM
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07/24/2013 06:11 AM
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All you want is results...right? But there is that old saying...you get what you pay for.

If your gut says this is fishy...tell this guy NO. Would suck if you paid him...then had to pay the Orkin guy to come back out again at full price...right?

But if price is an issue and you think it might work, ask Orkin guy if his friend will guarantee his work and have him sign something agreeing to come back out and spray again if the bugs show up. If not...say no.

You have the advantage cause you could always go to Orkin and report the employee.

Good luck...hope your problem will be solved.
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He said the guy would give a 40 day guarantee and that Orkin only gives a 30 day. Yes if this guy does a bad job I can report the orkin guy, but then it comes down to a your word against mine thing. He also told me to tell Orkin (if they called back) that he did come out and it was to much.
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I say go with your gut feeling, if you say it feels fishy...it probably is. You really have no recourse once the friend leaves. What if he dilutes the strength of the poison to make it stretch further? Some do that.

I'd pay the $840.00 with Orkin because they care about their reputation. Tell Orkin you want 40 days, they might say yes.

I've had to pay a professional double to fix the "great deal" I got screwed on. Hate to see that happen to you. Just sayin....
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07/24/2013 06:24 AM
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I wouldn't rush into that.

Bed bugs are not much different than fleas.
If you really clean everything, there are natural deterrents you can use (like borax, or peppermint oil, or moth balls) then watch and see if you got them all and none returning.

Chances are you don't need to spend the money on either guy
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07/24/2013 06:39 AM
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I wouldn't rush into that.

Bed bugs are not much different than fleas.

If you really clean everything, there are natural deterrents you can use (like borax, or peppermint oil, or moth balls) then watch and see if you got them all and none returning.

Chances are you don't need to spend the money on either guy
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Have you ever had bedbugs?
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I wouldn't rush into that.

Bed bugs are not much different than fleas.
If you really clean everything, there are natural deterrents you can use (like borax, or peppermint oil, or moth balls) then watch and see if you got them all and none returning.

Chances are you don't need to spend the money on either guy
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WHAT???!!! Bed bugs are NOTHING like fleas. Fleas are easy to get rid of. Bed bugs are nothing to mess around with.
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I'm betting Home Depot sells the stuff to spray yourself and get rid of them. Look into it. About 10 years ago I paid over $600 to have ants (huge ants) out of my house. And Home Depot sells huge amount of chemicals to spray for 40 if not less. Good luck
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Found it $20. Now that's what they use. There you go! And you're welcome. There scheme was to make a lot of $$$ off of you. I never would use an exterminator again
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[link to m.homedepot.com]
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So one of my daughters friends brought bedbugs into her room. I noticed them on her bed and the curtains near her bed. I keep a very clean home so I was extremely pissed. Anyways, I threw her bed away and the curtains. I also removed the carpet in her room (there are oak hard wood floors underneath. There where no bugs in the corners of the ceiling or the floor. I checked all the outlet covers and nothing there either.
I called orkin and the guy came out yesterday. He said that there is maybe a 5% chance that they are gone forever and that I should get it treated (which I was planning anyways. Then he says that Orkin would charge me $1200 to do the house (small 3 bedroom with finished basement) no carpets in any rooms anymore. Then he said because we were a nice couple and he understands that he would only charge us $840. I thought, okay this is much better, i can work that out). But then he said he knows a guy who used to work for Orkin who does great work and all the same stuff that Orkin does, and that guy would charge us $600, my wife said what about $550 and he said that he could get him to do it for that price.

When we went back outside, the Orkin guy called his "friend" and talked to him for a bit and said he could come out Thursday between 10am and noon. The part that I find fishy is,

Why did he not give us the guys number directly?
Why was he so willing to get us to go with his "friend"?
At one point I said that I would feel better going with Orkin because they are a company, and he actually tried to talk us out of that and into going with his "friend"
Do I even need to hire someone for treatment?
Does he realize that I don't and want to get his "friend" some money?

It all just seems a little fishy to me. He mentioned that he had a wife and kids about 5 times while he was here. Why so many times? Why is he trying to convince me he is such a decent guy?
Why was he adamant that we pay this guy cash, "just so it has no chance of coming back to him"? He said, the guy does cash and card but that we should pay cash because it would make him feel better.
Any thoughts?
Am I just being paranoid or is something fishy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41471469


1. you cannot see bedbugs 2. stop blaming your daughters friend for bringing bedbugs into her room. They were already there ! They can and will be in the cleanest home. So I call bsflag
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So one of my daughters friends brought bedbugs into her room. I noticed them on her bed and the curtains near her bed. I keep a very clean home so I was extremely pissed. Anyways, I threw her bed away and the curtains. I also removed the carpet in her room (there are oak hard wood floors underneath. There where no bugs in the corners of the ceiling or the floor. I checked all the outlet covers and nothing there either.
I called orkin and the guy came out yesterday. He said that there is maybe a 5% chance that they are gone forever and that I should get it treated (which I was planning anyways. Then he says that Orkin would charge me $1200 to do the house (small 3 bedroom with finished basement) no carpets in any rooms anymore. Then he said because we were a nice couple and he understands that he would only charge us $840. I thought, okay this is much better, i can work that out). But then he said he knows a guy who used to work for Orkin who does great work and all the same stuff that Orkin does, and that guy would charge us $600, my wife said what about $550 and he said that he could get him to do it for that price.

When we went back outside, the Orkin guy called his "friend" and talked to him for a bit and said he could come out Thursday between 10am and noon. The part that I find fishy is,

Why did he not give us the guys number directly?
Why was he so willing to get us to go with his "friend"?
At one point I said that I would feel better going with Orkin because they are a company, and he actually tried to talk us out of that and into going with his "friend"
Do I even need to hire someone for treatment?
Does he realize that I don't and want to get his "friend" some money?

It all just seems a little fishy to me. He mentioned that he had a wife and kids about 5 times while he was here. Why so many times? Why is he trying to convince me he is such a decent guy?
Why was he adamant that we pay this guy cash, "just so it has no chance of coming back to him"? He said, the guy does cash and card but that we should pay cash because it would make him feel better.
Any thoughts?
Am I just being paranoid or is something fishy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41471469


1. you cannot see bedbugs 2. stop blaming your daughters friend for bringing bedbugs into her room. They were already there ! They can and will be in the cleanest home. So I call bsflag
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Bed bugs travel on peoples clothes and in bags.

The problem with using this guy is that if he doesn't get rid of them with the same promise that the company does, you can't hold him to his word unless there is a contract or he tells you he will keep coming back till the job is done.
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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So one of my daughters friends brought bedbugs into her room. I noticed them on her bed and the curtains near her bed. I keep a very clean home so I was extremely pissed. Anyways, I threw her bed away and the curtains. I also removed the carpet in her room (there are oak hard wood floors underneath. There where no bugs in the corners of the ceiling or the floor. I checked all the outlet covers and nothing there either.
I called orkin and the guy came out yesterday. He said that there is maybe a 5% chance that they are gone forever and that I should get it treated (which I was planning anyways. Then he says that Orkin would charge me $1200 to do the house (small 3 bedroom with finished basement) no carpets in any rooms anymore. Then he said because we were a nice couple and he understands that he would only charge us $840. I thought, okay this is much better, i can work that out). But then he said he knows a guy who used to work for Orkin who does great work and all the same stuff that Orkin does, and that guy would charge us $600, my wife said what about $550 and he said that he could get him to do it for that price.

When we went back outside, the Orkin guy called his "friend" and talked to him for a bit and said he could come out Thursday between 10am and noon. The part that I find fishy is,

Why did he not give us the guys number directly?
Why was he so willing to get us to go with his "friend"?
At one point I said that I would feel better going with Orkin because they are a company, and he actually tried to talk us out of that and into going with his "friend"
Do I even need to hire someone for treatment?
Does he realize that I don't and want to get his "friend" some money?

It all just seems a little fishy to me. He mentioned that he had a wife and kids about 5 times while he was here. Why so many times? Why is he trying to convince me he is such a decent guy?
Why was he adamant that we pay this guy cash, "just so it has no chance of coming back to him"? He said, the guy does cash and card but that we should pay cash because it would make him feel better.
Any thoughts?
Am I just being paranoid or is something fishy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41471469


1. you cannot see bedbugs 2. stop blaming your daughters friend for bringing bedbugs into her room. They were already there ! They can and will be in the cleanest home. So I call bsflag
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We just bought the house a year ago and had it inspected for bedbugs, termites and flees. So no they were not here already.
2. You can absolutely see bed bugs, unless of course you a blind. They live on mattresses and curtains, as well as many other places if they get bad enough.
3. I have already called her friends parents and reaffirmed my suspicion that they came from her, as they told me they have been having a problem with them for the last year.
4. Don't comment on things you obviously don't know. Seriously.
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thats what he said.....
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So one of my daughters friends brought bedbugs into her room. I noticed them on her bed and the curtains near her bed. I keep a very clean home so I was extremely pissed. Anyways, I threw her bed away and the curtains. I also removed the carpet in her room (there are oak hard wood floors underneath. There where no bugs in the corners of the ceiling or the floor. I checked all the outlet covers and nothing there either.
I called orkin and the guy came out yesterday. He said that there is maybe a 5% chance that they are gone forever and that I should get it treated (which I was planning anyways. Then he says that Orkin would charge me $1200 to do the house (small 3 bedroom with finished basement) no carpets in any rooms anymore. Then he said because we were a nice couple and he understands that he would only charge us $840. I thought, okay this is much better, i can work that out). But then he said he knows a guy who used to work for Orkin who does great work and all the same stuff that Orkin does, and that guy would charge us $600, my wife said what about $550 and he said that he could get him to do it for that price.

When we went back outside, the Orkin guy called his "friend" and talked to him for a bit and said he could come out Thursday between 10am and noon. The part that I find fishy is,

Why did he not give us the guys number directly?
Why was he so willing to get us to go with his "friend"?
At one point I said that I would feel better going with Orkin because they are a company, and he actually tried to talk us out of that and into going with his "friend"
Do I even need to hire someone for treatment?
Does he realize that I don't and want to get his "friend" some money?

It all just seems a little fishy to me. He mentioned that he had a wife and kids about 5 times while he was here. Why so many times? Why is he trying to convince me he is such a decent guy?
Why was he adamant that we pay this guy cash, "just so it has no chance of coming back to him"? He said, the guy does cash and card but that we should pay cash because it would make him feel better.
Any thoughts?
Am I just being paranoid or is something fishy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41471469


1. you cannot see bedbugs 2. stop blaming your daughters friend for bringing bedbugs into her room. They were already there ! They can and will be in the cleanest home. So I call bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43628839


We just bought the house a year ago and had it inspected for bedbugs, termites and flees. So no they were not here already.
2. You can absolutely see bed bugs, unless of course you a blind. They live on mattresses and curtains, as well as many other places if they get bad enough.
3. I have already called her friends parents and reaffirmed my suspicion that they came from her, as they told me they have been having a problem with them for the last year.
4. Don't comment on things you obviously don't know. Seriously.
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Seriously, hearsay from you. The bed bugs came from your daughters mattress. I know more than you think. So kiss this s226
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So one of my daughters friends brought bedbugs into her room. I noticed them on her bed and the curtains near her bed. I keep a very clean home so I was extremely pissed. Anyways, I threw her bed away and the curtains. I also removed the carpet in her room (there are oak hard wood floors underneath. There where no bugs in the corners of the ceiling or the floor. I checked all the outlet covers and nothing there either.
I called orkin and the guy came out yesterday. He said that there is maybe a 5% chance that they are gone forever and that I should get it treated (which I was planning anyways. Then he says that Orkin would charge me $1200 to do the house (small 3 bedroom with finished basement) no carpets in any rooms anymore. Then he said because we were a nice couple and he understands that he would only charge us $840. I thought, okay this is much better, i can work that out). But then he said he knows a guy who used to work for Orkin who does great work and all the same stuff that Orkin does, and that guy would charge us $600, my wife said what about $550 and he said that he could get him to do it for that price.

When we went back outside, the Orkin guy called his "friend" and talked to him for a bit and said he could come out Thursday between 10am and noon. The part that I find fishy is,

Why did he not give us the guys number directly?
Why was he so willing to get us to go with his "friend"?
At one point I said that I would feel better going with Orkin because they are a company, and he actually tried to talk us out of that and into going with his "friend"
Do I even need to hire someone for treatment?
Does he realize that I don't and want to get his "friend" some money?

It all just seems a little fishy to me. He mentioned that he had a wife and kids about 5 times while he was here. Why so many times? Why is he trying to convince me he is such a decent guy?
Why was he adamant that we pay this guy cash, "just so it has no chance of coming back to him"? He said, the guy does cash and card but that we should pay cash because it would make him feel better.
Any thoughts?
Am I just being paranoid or is something fishy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41471469


1. you cannot see bedbugs 2. stop blaming your daughters friend for bringing bedbugs into her room. They were already there ! They can and will be in the cleanest home. So I call bsflag
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We just bought the house a year ago and had it inspected for bedbugs, termites and flees. So no they were not here already.
2. You can absolutely see bed bugs, unless of course you a blind. They live on mattresses and curtains, as well as many other places if they get bad enough.
3. I have already called her friends parents and reaffirmed my suspicion that they came from her, as they told me they have been having a problem with them for the last year.
4. Don't comment on things you obviously don't know. Seriously.
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Seriously, hearsay from you. The bed bugs came from your daughters mattress. I know more than you think. So kiss this s226
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More about what. There where maybe 50-100 bedbugs total. No where else in the house, no where else in her room. Kiss this? You are talking out of your ass.
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So I just called the Orkin guy to test something. I told him we where having trouble coming up with the $600 and we would have to postpone the treatment. He asked how much we did have, I said $200. He then said he would have the guy call me and work something out. Does that seem odd or what? I told him I had lass than half of the money and he still is trying to work something out. I don't know this guy, we have never met, we are not friends. So what is up? any thoughts on this new development?
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Guy pays other guy less then $550. Difference is his profit. Probably an illegal or sumthing doing it cheap. Dunno.
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