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Extreme contamination found at Fukushima plant - Cesium over 2 BILLION Bq/liter; MILLIONS of times above limit

 
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Re: Extreme contamination found at Fukushima plant - Cesium over 2 BILLION Bq/liter; MILLIONS of times above limit
Kevin Kamps, Radioactive Waste Watchdog at Beyond Nuclear: Well, the best I can come up with for what’s happening in recent days and weeks at Fukushima Daiichi is hemorrhaging of radioactivity.

And the scariest part of all is that they don’t know where it’s coming from.

But ultimately it’s coming from 3 melted down atomic reactor cores and severely damaged, if not entirely destroyed, radiological containment structures. That’s where it’s ultimately coming from.

But why it’s getting out now in such a hurry all of a sudden is the big mystery.

[link to enenews.com]


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Thread: Fukushima plant is hemorrhaging radioactivity — “Scariest part of all is they don’t know where it’s coming from”
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Re: Extreme contamination found at Fukushima plant - Cesium over 2 BILLION Bq/liter; MILLIONS of times above limit
2,000,000,000Bq is measuring a liquid which is pouring into the ocean?

how can they test the liquid? also what happens if someone drank this contaminated liquid would they die?
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dude, 2.4 billion Bq/Litre, its practically GLOWING.

The curium may just now be starting to seep into the ground water, which is what is causing all this radioactive steam of recently.

Or it may just be water thats somehow passing close to the curium picking up radioactivity and seeping away into the groundwater. Either way, its going to continue to seep into the water for many years to come unless they can remove the molten cores from the site and stabilize them somehow.
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Please listen at 11:00 in


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Fantastic post, thank you.

I have no words.
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...

Jesus.
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Those are the flying robot camera photos that we[fuku 1 thread]were analyzing to attempt to figure out what was going on at Fuku in the earliest days of the meltdowns.

Tepco and the .gov were lying out of their asses at this time and were denying the meltdowns.
The photos helped us decide that they were being dishonest.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Damn, I haven't seen these photos before.

No words.
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Those photos were released soon after the explosions.

Quote malfunction...sorry
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^^^^^^^

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Re: Extreme contamination found at Fukushima plant - Cesium over 2 BILLION Bq/liter; MILLIONS of times above limit
Good.

We need more doom.
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No, not like this Aus.
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Wow!
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OP how many hand waving videos made by people who don't have the slightest clue on how to test for radiation are you going to post from Youtube U?


What is the point?
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Wow!
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And it made me cry
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OP how many hand waving videos made by people who don't have the slightest clue on how to test for radiation are you going to post from Youtube U?


What is the point?
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Did you go to the cryptome.org link AC? Do you know anything about nuclear power?

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2,000,000,000Bq is measuring a liquid which is pouring into the ocean?

how can they test the liquid? also what happens if someone drank this contaminated liquid would they die?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


dude, 2.4 billion Bq/Litre, its practically GLOWING.

The curium may just now be starting to seep into the ground water, which is what is causing all this radioactive steam of recently.

Or it may just be water thats somehow passing close to the curium picking up radioactivity and seeping away into the groundwater. Either way, its going to continue to seep into the water for many years to come unless they can remove the molten cores from the site and stabilize them somehow.
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You hit it AC, they're reporting that much of just cesium isotopes. Those are fission products released from melted fuel rods. God knows how much of the other isotopes are there, that they haven't tested, or reported.
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2,000,000,000Bq is measuring a liquid which is pouring into the ocean?

how can they test the liquid? also what happens if someone drank this contaminated liquid would they die?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


dude, 2.4 billion Bq/Litre, its practically GLOWING.

The curium may just now be starting to seep into the ground water, which is what is causing all this radioactive steam of recently.

Or it may just be water thats somehow passing close to the curium picking up radioactivity and seeping away into the groundwater. Either way, its going to continue to seep into the water for many years to come unless they can remove the molten cores from the site and stabilize them somehow.
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You hit it AC, they're reporting that much of just cesium isotopes. Those are fission products released from melted fuel rods. God knows how much of the other isotopes are there, that they haven't tested, or reported.
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Exactly.

I've said before I'm not sure what's more unsettling - that TEPCO is releasing this info *side eye* or the few last weeks Reactor 3 steaming being covered in MSM.

Thread: BBC: It’s boiling inside Fukushima Unit No. 3 — Reactor supposed to be in cold shutdown — Situation ‘worrying’
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Please listen at 11:00 in


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Fantastic post, thank you.

I have no words.
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hf
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Re: Extreme contamination found at Fukushima plant - Cesium over 2 BILLION Bq/liter; MILLIONS of times above limit
The geology of fukushima ensures the flow of contamination to the sea.
Not a good thing.




[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]

Good and bad news



The good news is that the radioactive water leaking from the plant will not be able to spread towards the Japanese inland and the Abukuma plateau due to the downward slope of the geological layers. The bad news is that there exists a fault which appears to be active right under the Fukushima Daiichi plant itself: this allows, and will continue to allow, radioactive pollution of aquifers over a depth of several hundreds of meters, as it runs through the different "waterproof" strata (4). This also means that the radionuclides will naturally be carried towards the sea by this underground water stream flowing through the permeable layers of sandstone. Sandstone is indeed the ideal rock for aquifers, as it is both permeable and fractured, providing easy movement of water. And finally, there is the problem of the type of rock on which the plant was built being rather "soft", meaning that an earthquake can only destabilize the buildings.



As early as March 31, 2011, Tepco announced that the groundwater was contaminated with radioactive iodine, according to an analysis of a sample taken at a depth of 15 meters under the first reactor (link). Today, if one or more coriums have sunk into the ground, this pollution has very likely been increasing. But Tepco no longer shares any information about the pollution of groundwater. Their only concern is to present a beautiful reassuring façade, which will never solve this disastrous pollution of soil and groundwater: underground contamination is irreparable, because there is no access to it.
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WWJD? Listen and see.


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THANKS for the continued updates/analysis of the situation, Waterbug and Sweden ! Beginning to believe Citizen Perth; we ARE now doomed to a slow death by cumulative radiation, unless some miracle 'outside' intervention occurs.

Eagle
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Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links (Page 398)

Thank you WB hf
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Re: Extreme contamination found at Fukushima plant - Cesium over 2 BILLION Bq/liter; MILLIONS of times above limit
Well it is a nuclear melt down after all.

What did you think, they could just push the stop button? LOL!

Why do you think people have protested nuclear power for 40 years. Did you think they were whacko's? They simply understood the future.

If you're looking to blame someone then blame your grandparents for not being active enough to STOP nuclear power. Humans can't harness the energy of the sun and eventually not have an extinction level event. What were you thinking? LOL!

All you can do now is be a grown up and prepare for death.

Don't take life so seriously. Nobody gets out alive.
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WWJD? Listen and see.


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Apologies won't stop the pollution of the Pacific.
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My Mother keeps wondering how we are doing health wise since I live north of Seattle. Tells me to stay away from the ocean. I told her I think we are all F'd no matter being on the west coast or anywhere else for that matter.
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WWJD? Listen and see.


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Five stars for Kurosawa. Probably the best filmmaker of all time.
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2,000,000,000Bq is measuring a liquid which is pouring into the ocean?

how can they test the liquid? also what happens if someone drank this contaminated liquid would they die?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


dude, 2.4 billion Bq/Litre, its practically GLOWING.

The curium may just now be starting to seep into the ground water, which is what is causing all this radioactive steam of recently.

Or it may just be water thats somehow passing close to the curium picking up radioactivity and seeping away into the groundwater. Either way, its going to continue to seep into the water for many years to come unless they can remove the molten cores from the site and stabilize them somehow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43859232


You hit it AC, they're reporting that much of just cesium isotopes. Those are fission products released from melted fuel rods. God knows how much of the other isotopes are there, that they haven't tested, or reported.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34982889


Exactly.

I've said before I'm not sure what's more unsettling - that TEPCO is releasing this info *side eye* or the few last weeks Reactor 3 steaming being covered in MSM.

Thread: BBC: It’s boiling inside Fukushima Unit No. 3 — Reactor supposed to be in cold shutdown — Situation ‘worrying’
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yeah the recent MSM coverage is pretty sketchy I noticed that too.
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For a true doomer this Fukushima thing has been a huge disappointment. We were expecting massive cancer and death. Piles of bodies of men women and children, instead all we get is the continued insistence that this will kill us all while nobody dies.
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For a true doomer this Fukushima thing has been a huge disappointment. We were expecting massive cancer and death. Piles of bodies of men women and children, instead all we get is the continued insistence that this will kill us all while nobody dies.
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Nothing is ever as it seems AC.
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Its just fine here in Japa.
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For a true doomer this Fukushima thing has been a huge disappointment. We were expecting massive cancer and death. Piles of bodies of men women and children, instead all we get is the continued insistence that this will kill us all while nobody dies.
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remember when they were all screaming that the oil leak in the GOM was going to shut down the Gulf Stream!
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For a true doomer this Fukushima thing has been a huge disappointment. We were expecting massive cancer and death. Piles of bodies of men women and children, instead all we get is the continued insistence that this will kill us all while nobody dies.
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I apologize for not dying more rapidly for your entertainment, dipshit.
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Its just fine here in Japa.
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To be honest I am more worried about the economy than the radiation at the moment.
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For a true doomer this Fukushima thing has been a huge disappointment. We were expecting massive cancer and death. Piles of bodies of men women and children, instead all we get is the continued insistence that this will kill us all while nobody dies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44131563


I apologize for not dying more rapidly for your entertainment, dipshit.
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What we're looking for is total mayhem. Lots of running around and screaming. Dramatic scenes of courage in the face of inevitable doom. Instead you fucking Japanese just keep living like you don't know you're dead.





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