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LENOVO Laptops Banned on all Secret and Top Secret Networks

 
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LENOVO Laptops Banned on all Secret and Top Secret Networks
This is big.

Lenovo banned on all secret and top secret networks.

This says it all.

"The Chinese Academy of Sciences, a government entity, owns 38 per cent of Legend Holdings, which in turn owns 34 per cent of Lenovo and is its largest shareholder."

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Last one out remember to turn off the lights.
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The Chinese have been building back doors into the CPU chips that are made there - the US Military got hacked because a bunch of off the shelf hardware they used contained some of these back door'd chips.
There is even speculation that the high tech Global Hawk drone that Iran was able to hijack a year or two ago contained one of these chips.
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"Many western vendors have semiconductor fabrication plants, or “foundries”, based in China, which exposes them to the risk of interference."
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Is Intel i7 safe? hmm.
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07/29/2013 05:35 AM
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Is Intel i7 safe? hmm.
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CPU is fine its the circuitry on the motherboards
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Is Intel i7 safe? hmm.
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The Chinese have been building back doors into the CPU chips that are made there - the US Military got hacked because a bunch of off the shelf hardware they used contained some of these back door'd chips.
There is even speculation that the high tech Global Hawk drone that Iran was able to hijack a year or two ago contained one of these chips.
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Sounds like bullshit...The CPUs are not made by Lenovo
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07/29/2013 05:42 AM
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Its the Cylons!

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07/29/2013 05:55 AM
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because they're crap?

BANE LENOVO!

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07/29/2013 06:09 AM
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because they're crap?

BANE LENOVO!
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07/29/2013 06:13 AM
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I work for a major IT Services Provider / Outsourcer, and if you were in the business you would easily recognize it... Hell maybe you've been put out of work by it!

Seriously, my apologies if so, the sad situation of employment in general and IT employment specifically is not now and never has been my idea of ANY way to do business or to treat people, so don't hate on me just because the most recent time my job was on the chopping block, I was offered a job with the axe-swingers... Who actually HAD already a dozen years before put me out of work once before too!

In any event, all of their laptops used for remote access into all the systerms they support are, I believe LENOVO !

I certainly know MINE is, since I'm looking at it over in the corner of the room right now.

And this organization has it's hands into most of the MAJOR Defense Companies whose names you'd ALSO easily recognize...

You bet your ASS this is BIG...

REALLY BIG
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07/29/2013 06:15 AM
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I work for a major IT Services Provider / Outsourcer, and if you were in the business you would easily recognize it... Hell maybe you've been put out of work by it!

Seriously, my apologies if so, the sad situation of employment in general and IT employment specifically is not now and never has been my idea of ANY way to do business or to treat people, so don't hate on me just because the most recent time my job was on the chopping block, I was offered a job with the axe-swingers... Who actually HAD already a dozen years before put me out of work once before too!

In any event, all of their laptops used for remote access into all the systerms they support are, I believe LENOVO !

I certainly know MINE is, since I'm looking at it over in the corner of the room right now.

And this organization has it's hands into most of the MAJOR Defense Companies whose names you'd ALSO easily recognize...

You bet your ASS this is BIG...

REALLY BIG
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40922034


What kind of world do we live in in which defense companies and contractors use none governmental designed and issued technology?

It should be made in the country of the agency, thats it.
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That's interesting. Lenovo is a popular brand in India.
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So does anybody here dare give us more detail on the components affected ?

The details would be easier to dig up if we knew which chip was affected.

Pretty safe to rule out any chips made by Intel for a start.
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I work for a major IT Services Provider / Outsourcer, and if you were in the business you would easily recognize it... Hell maybe you've been put out of work by it!

Seriously, my apologies if so, the sad situation of employment in general and IT employment specifically is not now and never has been my idea of ANY way to do business or to treat people, so don't hate on me just because the most recent time my job was on the chopping block, I was offered a job with the axe-swingers... Who actually HAD already a dozen years before put me out of work once before too!

In any event, all of their laptops used for remote access into all the systerms they support are, I believe LENOVO !

I certainly know MINE is, since I'm looking at it over in the corner of the room right now.

And this organization has it's hands into most of the MAJOR Defense Companies whose names you'd ALSO easily recognize...

You bet your ASS this is BIG...

REALLY BIG
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40922034


What kind of world do we live in in which defense companies and contractors use none governmental designed and issued technology?

It should be made in the country of the agency, thats it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43928439

the world where "backdoors" are not just a problem, they aer a necessity. Why thats beyond me.
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So does anybody here dare give us more detail on the components affected ?

The details would be easier to dig up if we knew which chip was affected.

Pretty safe to rule out any chips made by Intel for a start.
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where are intel chips made?
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The Chinese have been building back doors into the CPU chips that are made there - the US Military got hacked because a bunch of off the shelf hardware they used contained some of these back door'd chips.
There is even speculation that the high tech Global Hawk drone that Iran was able to hijack a year or two ago contained one of these chips.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43532050


isn't that the same drone that keshe claimed was hijacked by his advanced tech.
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40 to 50 percent of Intel CPUs are imported here from Israel.
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07/29/2013 06:26 AM
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and Dell & HP are Banned on every Chinese government network.

Big Deal.
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07/29/2013 06:28 AM
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and the chinese government deliberately inflamed online forums in china with customer service issues related to HP which saw HP loose a dramatic amount of share in the country and ultimatley leading to Lenovo being the number# 1 pc manufacturer in the world.
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and if you really want to know the game thats being played.

you can refer to wikileaks cable on it.

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If it's a network security breach, it's not likely to be the fault of the main processor or CPU. It's probably the network processor, probably part of the chipset on the motherboard these days. Most of those are not from the US any more.
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So does anybody here dare give us more detail on the components affected ?

The details would be easier to dig up if we knew which chip was affected.

Pretty safe to rule out any chips made by Intel for a start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9761298


where are intel chips made?
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Arizona, Ireland, Haifa,...none in China, AFAIK.
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07/29/2013 06:39 AM
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Lenovo hasn't attempted to have their pc's "accredited". In other words...Lenovo didn't give the Australian, British and American spy agencies a payoff or a free shipment of electronics to shut them up.

Gimme a ticking break! 99% of the chips in a Lenovo are also in a Dell or N HP. Both those later brands are built with Chinese parts.
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ANOTHER GAWD DAMN NSA BROKE OBAMAMA NOBEL PIECE PRIZE LIE
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I work for a major IT Services Provider / Outsourcer, and if you were in the business you would easily recognize it... Hell maybe you've been put out of work by it!

Seriously, my apologies if so, the sad situation of employment in general and IT employment specifically is not now and never has been my idea of ANY way to do business or to treat people, so don't hate on me just because the most recent time my job was on the chopping block, I was offered a job with the axe-swingers... Who actually HAD already a dozen years before put me out of work once before too!

In any event, all of their laptops used for remote access into all the systerms they support are, I believe LENOVO !

I certainly know MINE is, since I'm looking at it over in the corner of the room right now.

And this organization has it's hands into most of the MAJOR Defense Companies whose names you'd ALSO easily recognize...

You bet your ASS this is BIG...

REALLY BIG
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40922034


What kind of world do we live in in which defense companies and contractors use none governmental designed and issued technology?

It should be made in the country of the agency, thats it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43928439

the world where "backdoors" are not just a problem, they aer a necessity. Why thats beyond me.
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I heard parts of the Kremlin are using mechanical typewriters again.
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Lenovo hasn't attempted to have their pc's "accredited". In other words...Lenovo didn't give the Australian, British and American spy agencies a payoff or a free shipment of electronics to shut them up.

Gimme a ticking break! 99% of the chips in a Lenovo are also in a Dell or N HP. Both those later brands are built with Chinese parts.
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ANOTHER GAWD DAMN NSA BROKE OBAMAMA NOBEL PIECE PRIZE LIE
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It's too bad. IBM Thinkpads used to be the best business laptops around, before the business was sold to Lenovo.
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It would be interesting if someone in the know would deconstruct his Lenovo and the networking components and pre-installed software in particular. I don't think there is anything in the CPU, but networking and pre-installed software is critical for security.
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BS, the Chinese put the back doors in intel motherboards which are in much more than just lenovo products





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