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Message Subject When will the Rapture happen? Post-Trib Rapture, 4 Seals Already Broken, and the Dangers of Buying into the Pre-Trib deception
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The seventy weeks

Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon they holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy

Pre-Tribber Argument #4:

Seventy weeks were determined upon Thy people. What people? The Jewish people? This has nothing to do with the Gentile church or the bride of Christ. So, doesn't this mean that the Gentiles will not be saved during the time of Daniel's 70th week? Does the 70th week pertain to the Jews or if the final 7 yrs which contains the 3.5 yrs of the great tribulation - if that's to do with the Jews then there won't be any salvation of Gentiles during this 70th week.

Post-Tribber Response:
To say that only Jews will be saved during this 70th week prophecy and Gentiles can only be saved during the gap btwn the 69th week and the 70th week, is obviously not true.

Daniel 9:24-26
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.



***the first 69 weeks of years STOPS at the crucifixion of Christ. During the gap of 69th week and 70th week the Jews were in revival.***

If the Gentiles are prohibited from being saved during the 70th week does that mean that Jews cannot be saved during that gap? There were both Jews and Gentiles in the early church together, and there will be both Jews and Gentiles in the last days church.

Rev 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Jews and Gentiles of every nation, kindred and tongue will be saved during the great tribulation.
 Quoting: Salt



Here's where I differ with you on this subject

I believe that God only deals primarily with either Jew or gentile " as a people" but neither at the same time ....

When God was dealing only with the Hebrew children under the old covenant he instructed Moses that any foreigner that wanted to live with them could but that they must assimilate under the Law and live as a Jew


Same thing under the new covenant .....God deals with the gentile people primarily but a Jew can also live under the new covenant ..he must believe on Jesus Christ

I personally believe that 69 weeks ended when Jesus ministry began when he was baptized by john and the father fully indwelt him and then immediately the 70th week began ...and for 3 and a half years he still dealt primarily only with the Jews ....

He was then cut off in the midst of the third week (crucified ) and he became the sin offering thus putting and end to the daily sacrifice

So that leaves 3 and a half years to deal with the Jews ....... The rapture happens ...the foolish gentile virgin is left behind to partake in the trib and gives her life for her testimony and is washed clean by giving her life then sleeps for a 1000 years until the mellinnial reign is over and during the trib God is only dealing with Jews ....he sends the 2 prophets to the elected Jews (144,000) and they believe the prophets because elected Jews will always listen to a prophet sent from God

I realize most people will disagree with me but this is what I see unfolding
 
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