Sandy Hook resident Robert Hoagland missing; possibly connected to case | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A much better picture, since I doubt many of us look our best at 5:30 a.m. (when he was last seen): [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28804628 United States 07/31/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A much better picture, since I doubt many of us look our best at 5:30 a.m. (when he was last seen): Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44266163 [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] page not available |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay - I knew something was missing, and here it is: Justin Craparo, son of Deb Pisani Craparo, the "mystery" wounded teacher at Sandy Hook, is himself a graduate of the Newtown High School culinary program, taught by Lori Hoagland. (Robert Hoagland, the missing man, is himself a graduate of the Culinary Institute of America). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A much better picture, since I doubt many of us look our best at 5:30 a.m. (when he was last seen): Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44266163 [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] page not available Working fine for me - I'll try again: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So in a nutshell, Robert Hoagland's potential connections to the case are: 1. Lives right by Sandy Hook School 2. Wife taught Justin Craparo, son of wounded Sandy Hook teacher 3. Wife teaches/taught J. Feinstein, son of Sandy Hook teacher who was in school during shooting 4. Works real estate in Sandy Hook |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1677316 United States 07/31/2013 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay - I knew something was missing, and here it is: Justin Craparo, son of Deb Pisani Craparo, the "mystery" wounded teacher at Sandy Hook, is himself a graduate of the Newtown High School culinary program, taught by Lori Hoagland. (Robert Hoagland, the missing man, is himself a graduate of the Culinary Institute of America). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44266163 Which is referred to as "CIA". |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note: Laura Feinstein is a significant and outspoken Sandy Hook witness. She said she tried to call 911 but had no reception. She is said to have lost three of her own students (she's a special ed and reading specialist at SHS). She told the New York Times she heard "gunshots going on and on." Laura is the sister-in-law of WTOP mid-day anchor Debra Feinstein and she spoke with WTOP hours after the shooting. Transcript from WTOP: "I was not an eyewitness to the shooting. I did not see the shooter or any potential victims. I was in the back of the building, in my classroom. Getting ready to greet my students. They were on their way down and I heard an unusual noise, which was kind of metallic sounding - 'pop, pop, pop.' It sounded like gunshots. And I hurried my two kids into the classroom, I locked the door and called the office. And the office secretary picked up the phone and I said, 'Is everything OK?' And she said, 'There's someone in the building shooting.' And then I hung up. I took my two kids, we were hiding under the computer desk and behind the shelves. I tried calling 911, but my cellphone didn't have reception so I texted my husband and asked him to call for me and we were just waiting." And we just kept hearing shots and shots and shots and shots. It was a lot of them. I don't know how many, but lots. We just waited and hoped and prayed that someone would come get us out safely and they did." Feinstein says she and her two students waited 40 minutes before someone came in and let them out of the room. She says it felt like an eternity. Feinstein says she could hear what was happening in the school's main office as the intercom was left on." Audio: [link to media.dev-cms.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | USA Flag WEDNESDAY, JULY 31, 2013 Connect with HUD Appraiser Roster as of 07/31/2013 (1 records were selected, 1 records displayed.) Name License/ Expiration Date Address ROBERT T HOAGLAND CTRCR.0001010 (Certified Residential) 04-30-2014 ENTERPRISE APPRAISAL SERVICES 94 GLEN ROAD SANDY HOOK, CT 064820000 That's from the HUD website: [link to entp.hud.gov (secure)] His FHA appraiser's license expired 12 weeks ago; don't know if that's significant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32909022 United States 07/31/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | USA Flag WEDNESDAY, JULY 31, 2013 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44266163 Connect with HUD Appraiser Roster as of 07/31/2013 (1 records were selected, 1 records displayed.) Name License/ Expiration Date Address ROBERT T HOAGLAND CTRCR.0001010 (Certified Residential) 04-30-2014 ENTERPRISE APPRAISAL SERVICES 94 GLEN ROAD SANDY HOOK, CT 064820000 That's from the HUD website: [link to entp.hud.gov (secure)] His FHA appraiser's license expired 12 weeks ago; don't know if that's significant. This is the beginning of what we need to know. Nice work OP. Moving fast and here comes the truth. Let's hope America is ready for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22439147 United States 07/31/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still waiting for this one to be solved: Thread: Managing Director of NY Investment Firm Hit, Killed by Train in Connecticut |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kari [...]: OMG Joanne! Who shoots babies! I heard one of the shooters escaped on an ATV December 14, 2012 at 10:21am via mobile It's a long shot, but what if Kari, as a friend of Robert Hoagland, heard that from Robert? Rocky Glen state park runs almost the entire way from Sandy Hook School to Robert Hoagland's house. If I were escaping on an ATV, I damn sure wouldn't ride down mains street if a handy state park were nearby. Did the ATV rider emerge somewhere near the Hoagland residence? Obviously just brainstorming here. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44266163 United States 07/31/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice in the Bee story they don't say who reported him missing? Just that police are looking for him. He was last seen at 5:30am on Sunday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32909022 Why is this story out today? Odd It is odd, particularly because his wife is well known in the community, and all they say is "a guy is missing." He's also a known realtor in the area. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32909022 United States 07/31/2013 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice in the Bee story they don't say who reported him missing? Just that police are looking for him. He was last seen at 5:30am on Sunday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32909022 Why is this story out today? Odd It is odd, particularly because his wife is well known in the community, and all they say is "a guy is missing." He's also a known realtor in the area. Says no address given as well. Okay so he either got " disappeared " or he got out of dodge. Creepy how clear the photos are of him. Must be HD Surveillance everywhere....yuk |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26255514 United States 07/31/2013 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Facebook comment from a friend of missing Sandy Hook man, Robert Hoagland: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44266163 Kari [...]: OMG Joanne! Who shoots babies! I heard one of the shooters escaped on an ATV December 14, 2012 at 10:21am via mobile It's a long shot, but what if Kari, as a friend of Robert Hoagland, heard that from Robert? Rocky Glen state park runs almost the entire way from Sandy Hook School to Robert Hoagland's house. If I were escaping on an ATV, I damn sure wouldn't ride down mains street if a handy state park were nearby. Did the ATV rider emerge somewhere near the Hoagland residence? Obviously just brainstorming here. Look at the overhead maps [link to maps.newtown-ct.gov] You can clearly make out several ATV trails that cut through the woods and end up in the backyards of several residences both on Riverside and Philo Curtis road. One of the secretary's (nake eludes me ATM) son had a friend who lived on Philo Curtis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2269485 United States 07/31/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wtnh.com] "Hoagland is described as a white man, 6' tall, and weighing approximately 175 lbs. He is bad with blue eyes." He is BAD with blue eyes? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44372255 Canada 07/31/2013 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this post by a real estate agent on another thread. Maybe this is your guy. He says works in real estate and he just bought a home in Sandy Hook. I copied it below.. Thread: SANDY HOOK - Part 3 - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers "I work in real estate about two weeks ago I bought a home for cash near Sandy hook the school. I also know of the company "earth works" because the home owner told me most of the people in the area had sold to them. I did not hear the home owner call it by the new name. The whole place was really really strange....You could tell it used to be a town but it is dead." I wonder if he started asking too many questions? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44372255 Canada 07/31/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wtnh.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485 "Hoagland is described as a white man, 6' tall, and weighing approximately 175 lbs. He is bad with blue eyes." He is BAD with blue eyes? Probably means bald not bad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44301491 United States 07/31/2013 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not new to the area - his wife Lori has been teaching culinary arts in Newtown High for some time. I really hope be wrong - or whatever the answer, I hope he's safe. Don't need anyone else caught up in this sordid mess. Godspeed Mr. Hoagland, wherever you are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44372255 Canada 07/31/2013 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this post by a real estate agent on another thread. Maybe this is your guy. He says works in real estate and he just bought a home in Sandy Hook. I copied it below.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44372255 Thread: SANDY HOOK - Part 3 - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers "I work in real estate about two weeks ago I bought a home for cash near Sandy hook the school. I also know of the company "earth works" because the home owner told me most of the people in the area had sold to them. I did not hear the home owner call it by the new name. The whole place was really really strange....You could tell it used to be a town but it is dead." I wonder if he started asking too many questions? If this is the same guy then maybe "Earth Works" knows where he is. I got a bad feeling about it as soon as I read the name Hoagland. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44386639 United States 07/31/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still waiting for this one to be solved: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439147 Thread: Managing Director of NY Investment Firm Hit, Killed by Train in Connecticut GE Financial connection, same as Mr. Lanza, bet they both work or worked in the accounting department, eh. Also, they are putting a pipe line through there, right; maybe that is why the news people are calling it New Town now? |
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