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440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?

 
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Most music worldwide has been tuned to 440 hertz since the International Standards Organization (ISO) endorsed it in 1953. The recent rediscoveries of the vibratory / oscillatory nature of the universe indicate that this contemporary international concert pitch standard may generate an unhealthy effect or anti-social behavior in the consciousness of human beings.

440 Hz Music - Conspiracy to Detune Good Vibrations from Nature's 432 Hz?A=432 Hz, known as Verdi’s ‘A’ is an alternative tuning that is mathematically consistent with the universe. Music based on 432 Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature.

There is a theory that the change from 432 Hz to 440 Hz was dictated by Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels. He used it to make people think and feel a certain manner, and to make them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. Then around 1940 the United States introduced 440 Hz worldwide, and finally in 1953 it became the ISO 16-standard.

What is 440 Hz?

440 Hz is the unnatural standard tuning frequency, removed from the symmetry of sacred vibrations and overtones that has declared war on the subconscious mind of Western Man.

In a paper entitled ‘Musical Cult Control’, Dr. Leonard Horowitz writes: “The music industry features this imposed frequency that is ‘herding’ populations into greater aggression, psycho social agitation, and emotional distress predisposing people to physical illness.”

You just have to go out in the street and take a look around. What do you see? School kids, young adults on their way to work, a woman pushing her baby in a pram, a man walking his dog – and what do they all have in common? iPods or MP3 Players! Ingenious, isn't it?
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” -Nikola Tesla
The powers that be are successfully lowering the vibrations of not only the young generation but the rest of us as well. These destructive frequencies entrain the thoughts towards disruption, disharmony and disunity. Additionally, they also stimulate the controlling organ of the body - the brain - into disharmonious resonance, which ultimately creates disease and war.

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So how does that work with chords and musical notation? What keys and chords are these?
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I'm usually at 432 or 448. Rarely at 440.

Weird that me and a buddy were talking about this earlier and now....

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So how does that work with chords and musical notation? What keys and chords are these?
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same keys, same chords. slightly different tuning of instruments.
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So how does that work with chords and musical notation? What keys and chords are these?
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It has everything to do with eh frequency chosen for a note

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So how does that work with chords and musical notation? What keys and chords are these?
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same keys, same chords. slightly different tuning of instruments.
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yep! just turn the strings a tiny bit tighter! Easy!!!
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I am not a skilled musician, just like to strum on my acoustic. How can I tune to 432...I use an electronic tuner and it will NOT go to 432.
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Me and a buddy were literally talking about this yesterday and today!!peace
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I am not a skilled musician, just like to strum on my acoustic. How can I tune to 432...I use an electronic tuner and it will NOT go to 432.
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You'll just need to pony up the cash for a better tuner that will let you specify frequency. Also... I have an app for my iPhone called GuiTune that lets you set A to whatever frequency you like.
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So I just tuned my Strat down to 432 with my basic Korg tuner using the calibration keys and I really like it, about a quarter turn of the tuning machine does it, it's cool because it's not as low as Eb so you still get good string tension....I am going to try this 432 tuning.

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It's somewhere in between E and Eb. It is an overall "nicer" feeling resonance.

You can find a cheap Korg tuner with the calibrate buttons. and those let you drop it to A-432.
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440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?

Most music worldwide has been tuned to 440 hertz since the International Standards Organization (ISO) endorsed it in 1953. The recent rediscoveries of the vibratory / oscillatory nature of the universe indicate that this contemporary international concert pitch standard may generate an unhealthy effect or anti-social behavior in the consciousness of human beings.

440 Hz Music - Conspiracy to Detune Good Vibrations from Nature's 432 Hz?A=432 Hz, known as Verdi’s ‘A’ is an alternative tuning that is mathematically consistent with the universe. Music based on 432 Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature.

There is a theory that the change from 432 Hz to 440 Hz was dictated by Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels. He used it to make people think and feel a certain manner, and to make them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. Then around 1940 the United States introduced 440 Hz worldwide, and finally in 1953 it became the ISO 16-standard.

What is 440 Hz?

440 Hz is the unnatural standard tuning frequency, removed from the symmetry of sacred vibrations and overtones that has declared war on the subconscious mind of Western Man.

In a paper entitled ‘Musical Cult Control’, Dr. Leonard Horowitz writes: “The music industry features this imposed frequency that is ‘herding’ populations into greater aggression, psycho social agitation, and emotional distress predisposing people to physical illness.”

You just have to go out in the street and take a look around. What do you see? School kids, young adults on their way to work, a woman pushing her baby in a pram, a man walking his dog – and what do they all have in common? iPods or MP3 Players! Ingenious, isn't it?
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” -Nikola Tesla
The powers that be are successfully lowering the vibrations of not only the young generation but the rest of us as well. These destructive frequencies entrain the thoughts towards disruption, disharmony and disunity. Additionally, they also stimulate the controlling organ of the body - the brain - into disharmonious resonance, which ultimately creates disease and war.

Read the Rest here...

[link to www.whydontyoutrythis.com]
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but:


that'swhy i lsiten alott to Pantera, and van halen

they tune to 432herz, hell my own band plays in 432hz, it just feels right
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This is interesting stuff. Had no idea about it.
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i played at 444Hz and pandorabox fx opened, great energyphies unleased...
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It's somewhere in between E and Eb. It is an overall "nicer" feeling resonance.

You can find a cheap Korg tuner with the calibrate buttons. and those let you drop it to A-432.
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Van halen and dimebag darrel couldn't be wrong, love this tuning
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Re: 440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?
If you're interested in alternate reference pitches, try 4A=415Hz or 4C=369Hz. Either will give different colour & feel to your music.

Or tune your instrument to your voice. Sing or hum your most comfortable middle range pitch. Tune 4C to it. Then tune the octaves and proceed to tune the Circle of Fifths.

4A=438Hz is about 1/2-cent below 4A=440Hz. It is barely discernible to the average person. (unless someone is tuned to 438 while everyone else is tuned to 440...then it just sounds flat.)
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Don't believe the BS made by numerology obsessed new age mumbo jumbo peddlers. There's nothing special about 432 Hz whatsoever, it's all just an arbitrary choice. We need a tuning standard because it makes life easier if your flute can play with my clarinet and so on...

I did some personal experimentation, changing frequencies randomly WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT I LISTENED TO, and came up with my own favorite tuning: 437 Hz. Not 432 Hz, mind you.

But I still use 440 Hz, because the ability to actually play with others outweighs the subtle improvement of having your own preferred tuning by a long shot.
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I am not a skilled musician, just like to strum on my acoustic. How can I tune to 432...I use an electronic tuner and it will NOT go to 432.
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Google:

NWO is responsible to concert pitch a-440 hz

That is a good thread on the subject.
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As a musician... this is interesting. Must read it all when i have time. Thanks. I'll be back.
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Re: 440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?
If you're interested in alternate reference pitches, try 4A=415Hz or 4C=369Hz. Either will give different colour & feel to your music.

Or tune your instrument to your voice. Sing or hum your most comfortable middle range pitch. Tune 4C to it. Then tune the octaves and proceed to tune the Circle of Fifths.

4A=438Hz is about 1/2-cent below 4A=440Hz. It is barely discernible to the average person. (unless someone is tuned to 438 while everyone else is tuned to 440...then it just sounds flat.)
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microtunings bring out the harmonics of the soul man!!

i tune down 1 and 1/4th

1 to 432.



but their all on that spot. all a 1/4 down, so i'm in between notes. sound vague i know, but try
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No, that's not vague =}. Sometimes I'll tune pentatonic rather than diatonic and use mean rather than just intonation. Using microtones is fun, a little challenging on the harp, tho, because of its inherent resonances.

Because of JS Bach tempering the octaves to "sweeten" them for more chromatic music, we've become more or less locked in to fixed pitch DO. Fixed DO also allows for fluid transitioning among all chromatic keys.

The blossoming of organ, harpsichord, pianoforte, and piano sealed the deal. Not easy to tune those instruments to flexible pitch DO.

And, as orchestral music became more prevalent and large halls were employed, the instruments were tuned higher & higher to accommodate the changing acoustics.
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No, that's not vague =}. Sometimes I'll tune pentatonic rather than diatonic and use mean rather than just intonation. Using microtones is fun, a little challenging on the harp, tho, because of its inherent resonances.

Because of JS Bach tempering the octaves to "sweeten" them for more chromatic music, we've become more or less locked in to fixed pitch DO. Fixed DO also allows for fluid transitioning among all chromatic keys.

The blossoming of organ, harpsichord, pianoforte, and piano sealed the deal. Not easy to tune those instruments to flexible pitch DO.

And, as orchestral music became more prevalent and large halls were employed, the instruments were tuned higher & higher to accommodate the changing acoustics.
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Actually, Bach didn't use the modern chromatic tuning, he did a sort of compromise tuning where some common chords with many 'white' notes on the keyboard sounded a little better, at the cost of other chords sounding worse.

But his solution was not a very good one. The underlying problem is, you can't tune a piano so that it sounds perfect in even ONE key!

That's because the different chords used when playing in a certain key use the same note in different contexts, which means there is no single answer to how a note should be tuned.

For instance, let's say we want to tune the piano to play compositions in C-Major only. The chords we need to be able to play include C, F, G, Am, Dm, Em (as well as the versions with minor and major sevens, and so on).

To play the chords C, F, and G, you need to tune the pure fifths F-C-G-D, but to play the D-minor chord, you need a D that is differently tuned than the D you just got from tuning pure fifths!

There is no perfect way out of this dilemma - either you build instruments with A LOT more than 12 notes per octave (good luck playing them...), or you use the chromatic tuning, where each fifth is 1.95 cents too narrow, which still sounds pretty good, and where major and minor thirds are way off, but kind of acceptable once you get used to the sound.

The result is a musically flexible scale that can be played in all keys with ease. It won the competition for a reason, but it's definitely not perfect.

I want to end this by mentioning that the numerology-tards that came up with the idea that a=432Hz is the "natural" tuning did so because many pure intervals end up being whole Hz numbers in that case.

That's nice and all, but it has very little practical relevance. It's not like the human ear cares about the arbitrarily chose frequency unit Hz, so that whole Hz numbers sound better.

And besides, we don't actually play pure intervals very much, we play the modern equally tempered chromatic scale, which means the different notes end up not having a whole Hz number anyway.

P.S. The reason orchestral music wanted to raise the tuning frequency, is because a higher string tension gives a more brilliant sound for the violins. Better steel gave the opportunity to raise tension without breaking strings. The orchestras don't even use 440 Hz, they commonly use 442 Hz (sometimes a bit more). That's why an instrument such as an orchestral Marimba is tuned to a=442.
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Re: 440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?
Don't believe the BS made by numerology obsessed new age mumbo jumbo peddlers. There's nothing special about 432 Hz whatsoever, it's all just an arbitrary choice. We need a tuning standard because it makes life easier if your flute can play with my clarinet and so on...

I did some personal experimentation, changing frequencies randomly WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT I LISTENED TO, and came up with my own favorite tuning: 437 Hz. Not 432 Hz, mind you.

But I still use 440 Hz, because the ability to actually play with others outweighs the subtle improvement of having your own preferred tuning by a long shot.
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You're clarinet, or blowpipe is a fixed key instrument...you can't bend notes


guitars on the otehr hand are based on a more deep principle: the circle of fourths and fifths.

432 herz is the tone animals make sound in, in wich the wolrd moves, as soon as you tune in to it, you'll feel it.

don't have to believe me, i proved myself already as an artist, i rather have you try it on your own.
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hmm


Sure, but don't anyone try to sweep the following:

"... that is ‘herding’ populations into greater aggression, psycho social agitation, and emotional distress predisposing people to physical illness"

...under the rug.


Society is always looking for scapegoats for it's own 'entrapment' it places upon people....

What's next? All those kids are actually listening to SATANIC music on their MP3 players?

....

It's an interesting idea.... but it reads like just another 'good citizen' who is shilling for the government, despite the fact that in his own mind he has 'found the conspiracy'.
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PS

This also ignores the possibility for adaptation.

Is your computer monitor 6500K?

If not.... have you found yourself 'more aggressive' yet?


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Re: 440hz Music - Conspiracy To Detune Us From Natural 432Hz Harmonics?
What about when I make music on the computer.
The wav files are saved at 440hz





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