Want to know why VPN services are no longer Secure? Read this.

Don't be scared. I join GLP voice chat then do a cmd / netstat cmd to see who is connected. The IP's that show are almost always of a VPN.


Someone should have something to say....

VPN services are no longer secure, what's happened recently?

A VPN is a little more complex than that, but effectively it expands your own personal network (however many computers you have and a router/modem).
Buying a VPN is not illegal, they have no legal obligation to turn over financial records. IE they can't just turn around and say we suspect somebody of wrongdoing, give us his details. They'd have to be court ordered which then would require them to prove you're using the service for illegal purposes.
Communication between you and your VPN are secure .
Most VPN providers do not and will not keep traffic logs (and have no legal obligation to do so).

Your security is only reliable as your provider.
Buy or rent your own server then setup a vpn, then only you can see logs if you set it up to log you.

Or you could do your own research .

Lol. I take it most of the GLP users are either stupid and in denial. Or... More ignorant then me.

Or perhaps GLP mods and admins put a ghost on my thread? Unable to be viewed by anyone outside my IP range?

Hey buddy. Thanks for rewording my post in your own words.

Congrats.

The internet is one big network. Guess what you can collect anything from the right place on he network.

You really think anyone can trust any provider??? HaHaHaHaHa

some vpns are set up by the feds

You didn't build that...

No, yours was more like, "Oh Lawdy Lawd, VPS' are unsecure"
Mine was more like point out the problems in your post and point out the problems with a vpn provider releasing details, they'd need to show you was doing something illegal on the vpn, yet to see that they'd need to see what was going on within the VPN first.



I could provide VPN services if I wanted to, I trust myself. I would fight to withhold data from a third party. If I can and would there will be others like me out there willing to do the same.

yea but i would just run a vpn, then go to a web based vpn that offers ssl, im not going to name it here but they exist.

so all the primary vpn sees is that i went to some ssl encrypted sever and from then on it has no clue.. right?

so - ssl vpn on top of vpn.

VPNs use something similar to SSL, called IPSec. Only data you can get from them is source and endpoint.

it is funny that people actually trust VPN companies

how do you know who is running the company?

.gov at sufficiently high enough levels can see into the data stream anyway regardless of encryption

it is naive to believe otherwise

two 1 stars by the shills who don't want this knowledge exposed!

What you mentioned is neither. Being the end point is the website accessed, start point is from the VPN. But the start point before the VPN is your direct IP. Your a shill man, admit it.

Many toss the logs...

Digital oblivion...

For instance....

8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM Log started for HMA! Pro VPN 2.8.0.8
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM OpenVPN service current status: Stopped
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM Stopping OpenVPN service...(timeout = 10 seconds)
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM OpenVPN service stopped
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM Loading...
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM Loading IP info...
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM Loading static data...
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM LoadIpInfo: requesting (proxy type: none)...
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM LoadIpInfo: received data in HTTP response
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM IP Address: blank out my real IP
8/7/2013 11:01:02 PM LoadStaticData: requesting (proxy type: none)...
8/7/2013 11:01:03 PM LoadStaticData: received data in HTTP response
8/7/2013 11:01:03 PM You have the latest client version: 2.8.0.8
8/7/2013 11:01:04 PM Disconnected
8/7/2013 11:01:07 PM User issued command: Connect to VPN
8/7/2013 11:01:07 PM Performing pre-connecting analisys...
8/7/2013 11:01:07 PM Disconnected
8/7/2013 11:01:07 PM Connecting...
8/7/2013 11:01:07 PM Connecting to OpenVPN server: USA, New Jersey, Clifton (LOC1 S4).

Sorry I was not all doom and gloom about it. X.

What ?

The admins and mods here on GLP can report my VPN IP. The admins of the VPN can match the times and dates via event viewer to math user IP. This information can also be obtained by ANYONE. You don't even have to be law enforcement or the Government.

I could be the admin of Radio shack website, check someones IP via cpanel logs or apache logs. I can do a ip trace of the IP and see that it is of a VPN network. I can then trace the host name to find the VPN network it is from. I can then blah blah blah.

X. you have no idea what you are talking about.

That will be difficult.

what if you set up the vpn yourself?

And why not be your own provider, while you're at it ?
I don't think this would work for big numbers of users.

dude.........wut?

I am glad someone else knows just why they are all pulling their services


There will be a shit storm when people find out that they were NEVER actually secure like many of us knew all along.

Imagine when that fact hits the fan.

It will come out soon enough

Just like rainwater in a rocky region before it finally emerges as a well somewhere in the valley, thousands of years later, it just needed some time to seep through....

Unless they have either quantum computers, or classical computers generations ahead of what is out now they aren't decrypting our traffic.

If you are relying on a 3rd party for your VPN then essentially it is just proxying your connection and they could view what you are doing because they are decrypting it before sending your traffic out.

The only way to be 100% secure is to use your own vpn where you control both ends so for web browsing you are always vulnerable from the other end.