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BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

 
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08/08/2013 06:22 PM
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BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] :

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
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This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] :

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Holy shit!!

This is the news many have been waiting for and or worst fears are confirmed!

The USA is officially dead and the dictator in office is a traitor!! Every man for himself! I mean, the whole world once looked up to the usa as a bastion of freedom and liberty but its a very very sad day when I have to say, I hate what the American leaders have done!! Its all over!!!!!!!!

Fucking fuck!!
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Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Snowden is not the problem, the problem is the programs he has told us about. Hello?
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FUCKEN BUMP KERMIT
:4hlick:
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08/08/2013 06:32 PM
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Pretty amazing. This could well have big implications over the next few months.

I sincerely hope this guy doesn't "commit suicide". Jeez.
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Snowden is not the problem, the problem is the programs he has told us about. Hello?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44815225


Yes!!! This is HUGE FUCKING NEWS!!

It impacts every person with an internet connection!!

If you don't know why this news is important then go back to watching what the kardashians are doing on tv cause you're worthless anyways!!

Holy shitttttt!!!!
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08/08/2013 06:33 PM
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This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] :

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Holy shit!!

This is the news many have been waiting for and or worst fears are confirmed!

The USA is officially dead and the dictator in office is a traitor!! Every man for himself! I mean, the whole world once looked up to the usa as a bastion of freedom and liberty but its a very very sad day when I have to say, I hate what the American leaders have done!! Its all over!!!!!!!!

Fucking fuck!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44819244


Yeah, it's a pretty fucked up situation. We can only speculate as to what the government wanted him to do, but it looks like he's doing the `right' thing and not playing their game. Too bad they put a gag order on what's going on.
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08/08/2013 06:39 PM
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Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
What case does he have in the 4th district court of appeals?

They had 350,000 users.
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08/08/2013 06:41 PM
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Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
question is, why are operative shills reporting this stuff? agitation? Who pays them?
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08/08/2013 06:43 PM
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question is, why are operative shills reporting this stuff? agitation? Who pays them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13906814


Do you think users_are for more invasive gov. eyes and wants or less?
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08/08/2013 07:05 PM
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Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
WOW this is FUCKED UP.

I just signed up for a lavabit account a few months ago after I ditched gmail...


Now I'll have to begin searching again. Sad days.
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08/08/2013 07:13 PM
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question is, why are operative shills reporting this stuff? agitation? Who pays them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13906814


Who are you calling an operative shill?

You're the shill for trying to detract from the story. Who do you work for...Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, ... ?
Anonymous Coward
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08/08/2013 07:15 PM
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Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Well, the good news is there are probably still some secure emails hosts in N. Korea, the new bastion of liberty in the world.

Now if only I could speak Korean....
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08/08/2013 07:17 PM
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WOW this is FUCKED UP.

I just signed up for a lavabit account a few months ago after I ditched gmail...


Now I'll have to begin searching again. Sad days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293782


there are not any.

the only ones provided for free have questionable uptime and there is a pick & choose application process, meaning not just anyone gets an account. Most of them require some type of identification of being a radical activist, which in itself, gives up some, if not all of your identity.
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08/08/2013 07:19 PM
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Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
startpage is starting it's new secured e-mail service.
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08/08/2013 07:22 PM
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time to walk away from the internet.

adios amigos
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08/08/2013 07:25 PM
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This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] :

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


You Obama lovers starting to get the picture????????????
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08/08/2013 07:27 PM
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startpage is starting it's new secured e-mail service.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1626283


I think the point is every email provider is inFEDcted. No matter what they say.

Congress has allowed the courts to be secret. Its all secret. Amish anyone?

Long live thesideways republic!
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08/08/2013 07:28 PM
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I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights.

hiding
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I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights.

hiding
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UH.... No.

Freedom means "fuck it."

Freedom means "I do not care what bullshit you attempt, I will defy it."

Freedom means "I will never comply."

Freedom means "No."

If you can do the above in the face of death, there will be no tyranny.
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Holy Shit Sticks!!! WTF????

Just how many WTF's can you have during the course of a day!?!?
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
Richard P. Feynman
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I see a rapture event coming with the fall...
I can see Middle East burning, oil skyrocketting and fiat currencies destroyed, panic, fear and economic despair during a coming cold winter.

Be prepared.
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I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights.

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44650817


UH.... No.

Freedom means "fuck it."

Freedom means "I do not care what bullshit you attempt, I will defy it."

Freedom means "I will never comply."

Freedom means "No."

If you can do the above in the face of death, there will be no tyranny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44777497


yes...that's why we are fucked, me included and many in my country and other parts of the world. so since we're already fucked - fuck it, yes. It just looks like everything is connected with all this leaks about everything and something so big will happen that normal people like me have no chance or influence over it. Too many people are too busy with their stupid entertainment and money, believing the shit on tv etc...big wake up call is probably going to happen and they won't know what hit them, and the few that do know will be helpless or killed. sorry for being not optimistic. we are fucked completely. This letter is just one example how fucked we all are.
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I see a rapture event coming with the fall...
I can see Middle East burning, oil skyrocketting and fiat currencies destroyed, panic, fear and economic despair during a coming cold winter.

Be prepared.
 Quoting: Jonasse 44707758


Hilarious that you believe in Pre-Trib Rapture. 'Twill be the biggest letdown in your life when you have to go through the fucking Tribulation like everyone else.

Jesus will be there at the end - but not until the end. You will have to get there the hard way along with all the other sinners and saints.
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and...only karma pinned
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I see a rapture event coming with the fall...
I can see Middle East burning, oil skyrocketting and fiat currencies destroyed, panic, fear and economic despair during a coming cold winter.

Be prepared.
 Quoting: Jonasse 44707758


Hilarious that you believe in Pre-Trib Rapture. 'Twill be the biggest letdown in your life when you have to go through the fucking Tribulation like everyone else.

Jesus will be there at the end - but not until the end. You will have to get there the hard way along with all the other sinners and saints.
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I agree with Jonasse. I think it will be the pre-trib haters who get the surprise. We will soon find out. And if we pre-tribbers are wrong, we'll get to see just how prepared and brave you are.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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bump yoda
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question is, why are operative shills reporting this stuff? agitation? Who pays them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13906814


Seriously, what on GLP ISN'T "agitation"? Ever notice the trend of lies, schizophrenia, paranoia and fear-mongering as the staple of GLP "news"? Get your kicks once in awhile but don't become like those people who are stuck here.

Anyway, maybe a dedicated user is reporting it. If not, it still proves that there is no such thing as security in the USA. Some European countries do not legally mandate encryption keys be handed over to the national security agencies, so Lavabit owner might like to register his business in one of those countries.
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we can start our own email service
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This guy is next... head on collision with a tree...

So glad I moved out...
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I see a rapture event coming with the fall...
I can see Middle East burning, oil skyrocketting and fiat currencies destroyed, panic, fear and economic despair during a coming cold winter.

Be prepared.
 Quoting: Jonasse 44707758


Naw.

It's just a little indigestion.





GLP