BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42487490 United States 08/09/2013 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Tensor User ID: 41190087 United States 08/09/2013 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44650817 Which is exactly what they want. Poke and poke at the public until they react, then drop the hammer on them. "SEE!, they are dangerous! We have to use force to control them and protect people!" Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power. Poor Richards Almanac (1738) - Benjamin Franklin. "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Everything under the Sun is in tune, but the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8915967 United States 08/09/2013 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] : Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen My Fellow Users, I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests. What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company. This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States. Sincerely, Ladar Levison Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC LIAR Obama just said that the gov is not spying on us. THIS post should be deleted. Obviously a lie /sarc |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44836653 United States 08/09/2013 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE Anyone worried about their email being spied on should consider the fact that all email is sent through the backbone of the Internet without protection. I know little retarded morons read my email and think of themselves as special. They're ultimately little monkey people. They just don't realize it... If you want privacy, you need to encrypt all transmissions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33729921 United States 08/09/2013 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44837215 United States 08/09/2013 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44837215 United States 08/09/2013 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44650817 Which is exactly what they want. Poke and poke at the public until they react, then drop the hammer on them. "SEE!, they are dangerous! We have to use force to control them and protect people!" Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power. Poor Richards Almanac (1738) - Benjamin Franklin. "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Bullshit, they are even starting to turn on each other now! They are afraid of the people within there own organizations. Once people escape the fear it will end soviet union style within hours. |
Ghost_Safari User ID: 33977235 United States 08/09/2013 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
X3N User ID: 1052567 Australia 08/09/2013 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE Wtf is wrong with y'all!!!!! Patriot act was passed in 2001, 12 years ago They can access any data without consent or informing the person or corporation from anywhere in the world if the data is stored within USA jurisdictions. Furthermore' anyone providing the data is obliged to non-disclosure or face heavy penalties Many corporations are ignorant to this and are in breach of client confidentiallity agreements the 3rd shaking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44840328 Germany 08/09/2013 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 'The land of the free' .... The great model, the world can not follow fast enough ... Sure: censorship and total control of the population(s) is ONLY for the 'Security': The safety of the already far too powerful to entrench their 'New World Order' of the few masters of many slaves undisturbed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44836653 United States 08/09/2013 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE This shit is old Quoting: X3N Wtf is wrong with y'all!!!!! Patriot act was passed in 2001, 12 years ago They can access any data without consent or informing the person or corporation from anywhere in the world if the data is stored within USA jurisdictions. Furthermore' anyone providing the data is obliged to non-disclosure or face heavy penalties Many corporations are ignorant to this and are in breach of client confidentiallity agreements Go have bang a kangaroo, bro. While you're doing that, how did you feel about Dundee? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30472082 United States 08/09/2013 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FWIW "Mercury Rising" the Bruce Willis NSA movie from 1998 claimed that at THAT time they were already recording *everything*. That's why they had to use typewriters and carbon paper. As Russia is doing NOW. |
X3N User ID: 1052567 Australia 08/09/2013 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44840328 Germany 08/09/2013 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44841982 United States 08/09/2013 03:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Daniel of the Rose User ID: 42002234 United States 08/09/2013 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] : Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen My Fellow Users, I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests. What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company. This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States. Sincerely, Ladar Levison Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44849256 Germany 08/09/2013 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1423818 Switzerland 08/09/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Bubbler User ID: 42512684 United States 08/09/2013 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE Make sure you follow the rules though: [link to we.riseup.net (secure)] Bubbler |