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BREAKING --- Secure email provider (Lavabit) shutsdown...CLAIMS THEY WILL NOT BECOME COMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

 
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I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights.

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Which is exactly what they want. Poke and poke at the public until they react, then drop the hammer on them. "SEE!, they are dangerous! We have to use force to control them and protect people!"


Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.


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This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] :

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


LIAR

Obama just said that the gov is not spying on us.

THIS post should be deleted.

Obviously a lie

/sarc
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Anyone worried about their email being spied on should consider the fact that all email is sent through the backbone of the Internet without protection. I know little retarded morons read my email and think of themselves as special. They're ultimately little monkey people. They just don't realize it... If you want privacy, you need to encrypt all transmissions.
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This will cost the u.s. corporation billions, the new software revolution will be, "not made in america" it is already sweeping europe.
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I have a VERY bad feeling - as if something major is about to happen. Like a cornered dog viciously attacking soon. So much stuff going on everywhere, my stomach turned when I saw this news. We're all fucked who tries to stand up for their rights.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44650817


Which is exactly what they want. Poke and poke at the public until they react, then drop the hammer on them. "SEE!, they are dangerous! We have to use force to control them and protect people!"


Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.


Poor Richards Almanac (1738) - Benjamin Franklin.

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
 Quoting: Tensor


Bullshit, they are even starting to turn on each other now! They are afraid of the people within there own organizations. Once people escape the fear it will end soviet union style within hours.
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This shit is old

Wtf is wrong with y'all!!!!!

Patriot act was passed in 2001, 12 years ago

They can access any data without consent or informing the person or corporation from anywhere in the world if the data is stored within USA jurisdictions. Furthermore' anyone providing the data is obliged to non-disclosure or face heavy penalties

Many corporations are ignorant to this and are in breach of client confidentiallity agreements

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'The land of the free' .... The great model, the world can not follow fast enough ... Sure: censorship and total control of the population(s) is ONLY for the 'Security': The safety of the already far too powerful to entrench their 'New World Order' of the few masters of many slaves undisturbed.
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This shit is old

Wtf is wrong with y'all!!!!!

Patriot act was passed in 2001, 12 years ago

They can access any data without consent or informing the person or corporation from anywhere in the world if the data is stored within USA jurisdictions. Furthermore' anyone providing the data is obliged to non-disclosure or face heavy penalties

Many corporations are ignorant to this and are in breach of client confidentiallity agreements

putin
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Go have bang a kangaroo, bro. While you're doing that, how did you feel about Dundee?
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FWIW "Mercury Rising" the Bruce Willis NSA movie from 1998 claimed that at THAT time they were already recording *everything*. That's why they had to use typewriters and carbon paper. As Russia is doing NOW.
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Go have bang a kangaroo, bro. While you're doing that, how did you feel about Dundee?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44836653


Had kangaroo kebabs on Tuesday, prob go for thai fried rice or flake and chips. The knife was ok,, far cry from samurai though
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This will cost the u.s. corporation billions, the new software revolution will be, "not made in america" it is already sweeping europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44837215


THIS!
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startpage is starting it's new secured e-mail service.
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clappa
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This is a 100% copy of the letter displayed on their page [link to lavabit.com (secure)] :

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


dreamscapeheck
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This is Fascism PERIOD
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There is a solution to this.

[link to www.gnupg.org]
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There is a solution to this.

[link to www.gnupg.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1423818


Make sure you follow the rules though:
[link to we.riseup.net (secure)]
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