Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says

Thank you - interesting take on this matter.

I've had one and it's real. As long as there are Humans there will be disagreement, but I drowned a few decades ago and can tell you:

1. This has nothing to do with "religion" which is a Human construct to control
2. The "you" that is that little voice inside your head is the "you" that has always been and will always be. It cannot die, but the body you inhabit will die
3. The only thing that has any importance or significance is LOVE. Get that right and your manifestation in Human form is a success. Material goods/wealth has no meaning except to other Humans.

It doesn't prove there is no afterlife. Looked at a certain way, it infers it.

If it were "extensively documented", there would be a lot fewer atheists in the world.

We have no evidence for a god or an afterlife. We have PLENTY of evidence that mankind will lie at any given opportunity. Which is more likely... a person died and experienced an afterlife, or that he saw some weird shit that didn't make sense (as per the article) and embellished it to sell a book or appear in a documentary?

They cant even explain life or consciousness, let alone death

Nobody has a clue about what is going on or understands what we are or what any of this really is

Spooky action at a distance? There is no distance... because everything and everyone is connected

Scientists are great at pattern recognition, but they are lacking in the sense department!

it's the terminology that is the issue

nde is not a true medical term , it's a term used by anyone to interperet a parasympathetic response, often claimed by the religious as an experience of entering an afterlife.

the near death experience is the experience that nearly resulted in death, ie the trauma.

legal death may be pronounced when breathing and heart stops, but plenty of people have walked out of morgues, toe tags attached. death to a body cannot be positively determined until decomposition.

what you are describing is the psycosomatic response to the experience, which is basically a more severe fight or flight response.

it's shock that causes the sensation of floating out/above the body, and is experienced in many trauma situations. so are the hallucinations described.your heart does not need to stop for this to occur.

after an mva, i watched hospital staff x ray me from floating up near the ceiling. when returning to my body i thought i was a lawnmower in a dark garage, with people walking past a brightly lit doorway.

i eventually realised if i asked them to come in and start me, eveything would get more normal. when i did come back, the pain made me wish i was the lawnmower again, and i was able to return to the dark garage with the brightly lit doorway to escape the peak of the pain waves.

drs told me they had heard hundreds of variations of the same type of experience, which has everything to do with trauma and shock and nothing to do with death, which may follow trauma , but there are no true reported experiences of.


recreational drug users frequently report similar hallucinations or experiences, which the religious seem to steer clear of touting as ndes.

Or NDE can be a reason for the surge of brain activity.

Despite all its previous successes, our current system of sciences is still in its infant stage so to speak.

Our so called "3D world" is just a very tiny speck amid countless other (subtle )worlds and dimensions so to speak.

True saints and masters know much more about God, God's creatures and God's creation, than most scientists do, but in contrast to many shallow scientists, true saints and masters usually do not brag about their profound divine insights.

God's secrets are usually very well hidden and guarded for many very good reasons and if scientists do not finally learn to become truly loving, wise and humble, then they will most likely have to wait for a very long time, before at least some of these secrets will finally be discovered.

Besides that, scientists very often persistently cling to their own very limited "scientific" belief systems, but scientists often react very allergic, when someone very calmly points out these obvious facts to them.

Science unfortunately still limits itself massively in many ways due to its numerous and very persistent prejudices, biased opinions and preconceived views et cetera and such a very small-minded approach is of course neither truly scientific, nor wise, nor intelligent, nor effective.

Future generations will most likely be very perplexed, when they will discover, how incredibly small-minded, limited, arrogant and self-righteous our current "advanced science" was.

I've seen many of your posts. You possess barely a third of my intelligence. Do us all a favor and use condoms extensively. You aren't bright enough to weigh in here. You didn't even give me a retort. You told me to look at some yahoo's hocus pocus account. I've known religious people who've died and been resuscitated (that means "revived", genius). Guess what they saw? Nothing. If there were supernatural things in the world, science would have found them. It's just a process for weighing evidence, after all. Since there's no evidence, there are "brave" people like me willing to call your bull shit.

this

Last Edited by Gimme Some Truth on 08/17/2013 04:55 PM