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Why does God release Satan from the abyss after the Thousand Year Reign of Christ is over?

 
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"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while"- Revelation 20:1-3
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that he might mislead the nations (People)
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After the tribulation there will be mortals in addition to the immortals raptured and sparred the great wrath of God. Those mortals will repopulate the earth over that 1,000 year reign of Christ. They will still have the flesh to content with and will still have to make a decision to follow Christ. At the end of the 1,000 years Satan is released to gather those mortals that would still want to rebel against Christ as God to show that even in a perfect world that Christ brings us it's all about the heart of man that corrupts him. Environment is not mankind's problem. The heart is man's downfall and we need the Holy Spirit to transform us into the image of Christ daily through repentance.

In a nutshell...

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There are Immortals on the Planet now… :)

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There are Immortals on the Planet now… :)

Peace
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Immortal in the physical sense. We are all immortal spirits, but I'm speaking of the physical body being immortal for believing Christians. But I know what you are talking about....
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There are Immortals on the Planet now… :)

Peace
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Immortal in the physical sense. We are all immortal spirits, but I'm speaking of the physical body being immortal for believing Christians. But I know what you are talking about....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


If we are all immortal spirits, then why do we all die and why did Christ have to die for us, if we indeed, "continue on" after we die.....

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"-Romans 5:12

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People born during the tribulation period...
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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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that he might mislead the nations (People)
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Satan is misleading all earth NOW

"And war broke out in heaven: Mi′cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him."- Revelation 12:7-9
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People born during the tribulation period...
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or born during the thousand year reign?
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"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while"- Revelation 20:1-3
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Who really is tested at that time?
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"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while"- Revelation 20:1-3
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to have his followers that of satans follow him into the lake of fire he comes for his children those that truly rejected the truth and never wanted it
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There are Immortals on the Planet now… :)

Peace
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,,,
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There are Immortals on the Planet now… :)

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42982398


Immortal in the physical sense. We are all immortal spirits, but I'm speaking of the physical body being immortal for believing Christians. But I know what you are talking about....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


If we are all immortal spirits, then why do we all die and why did Christ have to die for us, if we indeed, "continue on" after we die.....

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"-Romans 5:12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


God created us in his own image. Eternal spirits - we were never meant to die, but because Adam and Eve sinned we all have that sinful nature. Except for Jesus/Yeshua who's father was not a man but from the Holy Spirit - So only Christ could save us since he had no sinful nature from Adam and Eve. He was God's perfect rescue plan.... Come to earth himself as a man, live a perfect life as an example living by faith in God in the Father only doing what he saw the Father do and then die for us in OUR PLACE if we accept that work on the cross for ourself. Yeshua was tried, found guilty of sin (wrongly but he did not defend himself since it was God's plan he pay the price) and paid the price for sin... it's paid in full and you can trade places with him and go to heaven because he paid for your and my sin. It was the only way God could make a way for us to go to heaven... die for our sins himself and then resurrect from the dead once he paid for sin with his mortal life. Now he rules in IMMORTAL DIVINE power and you and I can rule with him.... if we choose to believe in Him and his work of salvation.

Where we spend our eternity is up to us and our choice as to if we accept the finished work of Christ on the cross. When Jesus/Yeshua told us of Lazuras and the dead man he said "there was a man" - an actual occurrence in Luke 16 of Lazuras going to Abraham's Bossom and awaiting the messiah.

Luke 16: 1

1 Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man...." now go and and read it yourself and see what happens after you die if you don't have the blood of Christ covering your sins....

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There are Immortals on the Planet now… :)

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42982398


Immortal in the physical sense. We are all immortal spirits, but I'm speaking of the physical body being immortal for believing Christians. But I know what you are talking about....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


If we are all immortal spirits, then why do we all die and why did Christ have to die for us, if we indeed, "continue on" after we die.....

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"-Romans 5:12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


God created us in his own image. Eternal spirits - we were never meant to die, but because Adam and Eve sinned we all have that sinful nature. Except for Jesus/Yeshua who's father was not a man but from the Holy Spirit - So only Christ could save us since he had no sinful nature from Adam and Eve. He was God's perfect rescue plan.... Come to earth himself as a man, live a perfect life as an example living by faith in God in the Father only doing what he saw the Father do and then die for us in OUR PLACE if we accept that work on the cross for ourself. Yeshua was tried, found guilty of sin (wrongly but he did not defend himself since it was God's plan he pay the price) and paid the price for sin... it's paid in full and you can trade places with him and go to heaven because he paid for your and my sin. It was the only way God could make a way for us to go to heaven... die for our sins himself and then resurrect from the dead once he paid for sin with his mortal life. Now he rules in IMMORTAL DIVINE power and you and I can rule with him.... if we choose to believe in Him and his work of salvation.

Where we spend our eternity is up to us and our choice as to if we accept the finished work of Christ on the cross. When Jesus/Yeshua told us of Lazuras and the dead man he said "there was a man" - an actual occurrence in Luke 16 of Lazuras going to Abraham's Bossom and awaiting the messiah.

Luke 16: 1

1 Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man...." now go and and read it yourself and see what happens after you die if you don't have the blood of Christ covering your sins....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


The account about Lazarus and the Rich man was symbolic-not literal
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Immortal in the physical sense. We are all immortal spirits, but I'm speaking of the physical body being immortal for believing Christians. But I know what you are talking about....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


If we are all immortal spirits, then why do we all die and why did Christ have to die for us, if we indeed, "continue on" after we die.....

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"-Romans 5:12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


God created us in his own image. Eternal spirits - we were never meant to die, but because Adam and Eve sinned we all have that sinful nature. Except for Jesus/Yeshua who's father was not a man but from the Holy Spirit - So only Christ could save us since he had no sinful nature from Adam and Eve. He was God's perfect rescue plan.... Come to earth himself as a man, live a perfect life as an example living by faith in God in the Father only doing what he saw the Father do and then die for us in OUR PLACE if we accept that work on the cross for ourself. Yeshua was tried, found guilty of sin (wrongly but he did not defend himself since it was God's plan he pay the price) and paid the price for sin... it's paid in full and you can trade places with him and go to heaven because he paid for your and my sin. It was the only way God could make a way for us to go to heaven... die for our sins himself and then resurrect from the dead once he paid for sin with his mortal life. Now he rules in IMMORTAL DIVINE power and you and I can rule with him.... if we choose to believe in Him and his work of salvation.

Where we spend our eternity is up to us and our choice as to if we accept the finished work of Christ on the cross. When Jesus/Yeshua told us of Lazuras and the dead man he said "there was a man" - an actual occurrence in Luke 16 of Lazuras going to Abraham's Bossom and awaiting the messiah.

Luke 16: 1

1 Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man...." now go and and read it yourself and see what happens after you die if you don't have the blood of Christ covering your sins....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


The account about Lazarus and the Rich man was symbolic-not literal
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Wrong. Names were used, certain rich man is a particular individual. Anyway the rich man was in torment in the flames.
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Warning.. this thread was created by a Jehovah's Witness.

Celestial Maiden, let me guess. You are using this to add to your "field service report".
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I have seen this video a few times and IMO depicts the answer to your question.

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If we are all immortal spirits, then why do we all die and why did Christ have to die for us, if we indeed, "continue on" after we die.....

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"-Romans 5:12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


God created us in his own image. Eternal spirits - we were never meant to die, but because Adam and Eve sinned we all have that sinful nature. Except for Jesus/Yeshua who's father was not a man but from the Holy Spirit - So only Christ could save us since he had no sinful nature from Adam and Eve. He was God's perfect rescue plan.... Come to earth himself as a man, live a perfect life as an example living by faith in God in the Father only doing what he saw the Father do and then die for us in OUR PLACE if we accept that work on the cross for ourself. Yeshua was tried, found guilty of sin (wrongly but he did not defend himself since it was God's plan he pay the price) and paid the price for sin... it's paid in full and you can trade places with him and go to heaven because he paid for your and my sin. It was the only way God could make a way for us to go to heaven... die for our sins himself and then resurrect from the dead once he paid for sin with his mortal life. Now he rules in IMMORTAL DIVINE power and you and I can rule with him.... if we choose to believe in Him and his work of salvation.

Where we spend our eternity is up to us and our choice as to if we accept the finished work of Christ on the cross. When Jesus/Yeshua told us of Lazuras and the dead man he said "there was a man" - an actual occurrence in Luke 16 of Lazuras going to Abraham's Bossom and awaiting the messiah.

Luke 16: 1

1 Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man...." now go and and read it yourself and see what happens after you die if you don't have the blood of Christ covering your sins....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


The account about Lazarus and the Rich man was symbolic-not literal
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Wrong. Names were used, certain rich man is a particular individual. Anyway the rich man was in torment in the flames.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354586


Jesus was using an illustration

Is "hell" (which is just the common grave of mankind) literally within speaking distance of heaven so that such a conversation could literally take place?

If the rich man were really in a literal burning lake, how could Abraham send Lazarus to cool his tongue with just a drop of water on the tip of his finger?

Clearly it was an illustration, as were many things Jesus taught
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Who really is tested at that time?
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Humanity.
If Satan is bound, we will have only our "sinful nature" to blame.
Notice how there are multitudes that rebel against God after the physical revealing of Himself. So those that claim they would be a difference in humanity if God would reveal himself will be proven wrong.
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so he can round up those who still reject the devine Logos.

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Who really is tested at that time?
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Humanity.
If Satan is bound, we will have only our "sinful nature" to blame.
Notice how there are multitudes that rebel against God after the physical revealing of Himself. So those that claim they would be a difference in humanity if God would reveal himself will be proven wrong.
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At the end of the thousand year reign when Satan is released, all humans will have attained perfection, so any deflection on humans part can no longer be blamed on imperfection
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If we are all immortal spirits, then why do we all die and why did Christ have to die for us, if we indeed, "continue on" after we die.....

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"-Romans 5:12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


God created us in his own image. Eternal spirits - we were never meant to die, but because Adam and Eve sinned we all have that sinful nature. Except for Jesus/Yeshua who's father was not a man but from the Holy Spirit - So only Christ could save us since he had no sinful nature from Adam and Eve. He was God's perfect rescue plan.... Come to earth himself as a man, live a perfect life as an example living by faith in God in the Father only doing what he saw the Father do and then die for us in OUR PLACE if we accept that work on the cross for ourself. Yeshua was tried, found guilty of sin (wrongly but he did not defend himself since it was God's plan he pay the price) and paid the price for sin... it's paid in full and you can trade places with him and go to heaven because he paid for your and my sin. It was the only way God could make a way for us to go to heaven... die for our sins himself and then resurrect from the dead once he paid for sin with his mortal life. Now he rules in IMMORTAL DIVINE power and you and I can rule with him.... if we choose to believe in Him and his work of salvation.

Where we spend our eternity is up to us and our choice as to if we accept the finished work of Christ on the cross. When Jesus/Yeshua told us of Lazuras and the dead man he said "there was a man" - an actual occurrence in Luke 16 of Lazuras going to Abraham's Bossom and awaiting the messiah.

Luke 16: 1

1 Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man...." now go and and read it yourself and see what happens after you die if you don't have the blood of Christ covering your sins....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


The account about Lazarus and the Rich man was symbolic-not literal
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Wrong. Names were used, certain rich man is a particular individual. Anyway the rich man was in torment in the flames.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354586


Yep im nvinced..\\

Im going to serve the Lord.

Not cause I love him though.


Who can love someone who will torture you if you fail?

No one.

I will serve him because im terrified to death of this monster who created hell and its better to be on the same side as the monster who created hell than against it.

So Im going to do what the majority of christians do.

Serve the Lord just to save my own ass from the fire pit.

Im no different from any other christian.

I serve the Lord because he will burn me alive forever if I dont.

He even had himself tortured to death so he would not have to torture ME by burning me alive forever if I dont belive he tortured himself to death for me.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Im gonna serve him not out of love...I cant bring myself to love him because of the blackmail and the threats of untold torture.

But I CAN save myself from his dungeon if I serve him just out of plain old terror like all christians do.

I know thats a selfish way to be a christian but it seems to work for all the millions of others.

All serving the Lord out of FEAR..hammered into submission by the BLACKMAIL..FORCED into serving him by the THREAT OF TORTURE..

But LOVE??

It cant be done.

Would YOU love someone who threatened to skin you alive slowly if you didnt love them with all your heart?

No..you would think them a pshycopathic nutter.

But its OK for GOD to use the same tactics cause hes God and he can be as cruel and evil and blackmailing as he wants to be...and we had just better accept it because if we dont he will torture us all forever..IN His great LOVE and MERCY..which never FAILS...apparently.
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Because everyone was bored to tears and wanted something interesting to occur
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God created us in his own image. Eternal spirits - we were never meant to die, but because Adam and Eve sinned we all have that sinful nature. Except for Jesus/Yeshua who's father was not a man but from the Holy Spirit - So only Christ could save us since he had no sinful nature from Adam and Eve. He was God's perfect rescue plan.... Come to earth himself as a man, live a perfect life as an example living by faith in God in the Father only doing what he saw the Father do and then die for us in OUR PLACE if we accept that work on the cross for ourself. Yeshua was tried, found guilty of sin (wrongly but he did not defend himself since it was God's plan he pay the price) and paid the price for sin... it's paid in full and you can trade places with him and go to heaven because he paid for your and my sin. It was the only way God could make a way for us to go to heaven... die for our sins himself and then resurrect from the dead once he paid for sin with his mortal life. Now he rules in IMMORTAL DIVINE power and you and I can rule with him.... if we choose to believe in Him and his work of salvation.

Where we spend our eternity is up to us and our choice as to if we accept the finished work of Christ on the cross. When Jesus/Yeshua told us of Lazuras and the dead man he said "there was a man" - an actual occurrence in Luke 16 of Lazuras going to Abraham's Bossom and awaiting the messiah.

Luke 16: 1

1 Jesus told his disciples: “There was a rich man...." now go and and read it yourself and see what happens after you die if you don't have the blood of Christ covering your sins....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


The account about Lazarus and the Rich man was symbolic-not literal
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Wrong. Names were used, certain rich man is a particular individual. Anyway the rich man was in torment in the flames.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354586


Yep im nvinced..\\

Im going to serve the Lord.

Not cause I love him though.


Who can love someone who will torture you if you fail?

No one.

I will serve him because im terrified to death of this monster who created hell and its better to be on the same side as the monster who created hell than against it.

So Im going to do what the majority of christians do.

Serve the Lord just to save my own ass from the fire pit.

Im no different from any other christian.

I serve the Lord because he will burn me alive forever if I dont.

He even had himself tortured to death so he would not have to torture ME by burning me alive forever if I dont belive he tortured himself to death for me.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Im gonna serve him not out of love...I cant bring myself to love him because of the blackmail and the threats of untold torture.

But I CAN save myself from his dungeon if I serve him just out of plain old terror like all christians do.

I know thats a selfish way to be a christian but it seems to work for all the millions of others.

All serving the Lord out of FEAR..hammered into submission by the BLACKMAIL..FORCED into serving him by the THREAT OF TORTURE..

But LOVE??

It cant be done.

Would YOU love someone who threatened to skin you alive slowly if you didnt love them with all your heart?

No..you would think them a pshycopathic nutter.

But its OK for GOD to use the same tactics cause hes God and he can be as cruel and evil and blackmailing as he wants to be...and we had just better accept it because if we dont he will torture us all forever..IN His great LOVE and MERCY..which never FAILS...apparently.
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Could you please show me where in the Bible it says that God will torture people forever?
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The account about Lazarus and the Rich man was symbolic-not literal
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Wrong. Names were used, certain rich man is a particular individual. Anyway the rich man was in torment in the flames.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354586


Yep im nvinced..\\

Im going to serve the Lord.

Not cause I love him though.


Who can love someone who will torture you if you fail?

No one.

I will serve him because im terrified to death of this monster who created hell and its better to be on the same side as the monster who created hell than against it.

So Im going to do what the majority of christians do.

Serve the Lord just to save my own ass from the fire pit.

Im no different from any other christian.

I serve the Lord because he will burn me alive forever if I dont.

He even had himself tortured to death so he would not have to torture ME by burning me alive forever if I dont belive he tortured himself to death for me.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Im gonna serve him not out of love...I cant bring myself to love him because of the blackmail and the threats of untold torture.

But I CAN save myself from his dungeon if I serve him just out of plain old terror like all christians do.

I know thats a selfish way to be a christian but it seems to work for all the millions of others.

All serving the Lord out of FEAR..hammered into submission by the BLACKMAIL..FORCED into serving him by the THREAT OF TORTURE..

But LOVE??

It cant be done.

Would YOU love someone who threatened to skin you alive slowly if you didnt love them with all your heart?

No..you would think them a pshycopathic nutter.

But its OK for GOD to use the same tactics cause hes God and he can be as cruel and evil and blackmailing as he wants to be...and we had just better accept it because if we dont he will torture us all forever..IN His great LOVE and MERCY..which never FAILS...apparently.
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Could you please show me where in the Bible it says that God will torture people forever?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Its not in the original textx that I can find but its common doctrine now so it MUST be true because there are millions of fear filled cowering people serving God in an endless effort of denying their humanity to avid being either killed outright by God in the greatests mass SLAUGHTER since the flood..or killed and the TORTURED by him in hell.

So either way ya have to bow and serve or you die or you die AND get tortured.

Its all the fear and the terror and the cowardice that drives me and them...I dont want to be killed..so I have to love this God who threatens to kill me or torture me if I dont "Love" him..which is quite impossible under threats like that.

But I can at least PRETEND to love him like all christians do..but really im just full of fear andtrying to save my own ass like all christians.
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How weird that I would find this question today of all days. I literally just read a passage regarding this question.

In the book of 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul seems to suggest that there is some sort of "restrainer." One who holds back the "lawless one" --- holds him back, but doesn't eradicate his influence.


Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only *H(h)e who now restrains will do so until *H(h)e is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

*I've added an asterisk next to the word "H(h)e" because there seems to be some confusion as to whether this should be a capital or lowercase H. If it's lowercase it would seem to imply that the FORCE that was holding Satan back is removed. Whether that be the righteous or some angelic being is beyond human knowledge. Clearly God cannot be remove -- He's God after all. Therefore, we must imagine some sort of force holding back this evil, and either because it is about to break or simply because the time is come, God removes it and allows Satan to do whatever it is he intends to do.

The whole theme of the book of Revelation seems to be that we have a choice. That we have to prove ourselves worthy. At the end of the book of Revelation it states that Satan MUST be released for a little while. Perhaps this is just another cog in the mechanism of choice. One last "are you sure" offered to the faithful before commit to an eternity with God.

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Wrong. Names were used, certain rich man is a particular individual. Anyway the rich man was in torment in the flames.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354586


Yep im nvinced..\\

Im going to serve the Lord.

Not cause I love him though.


Who can love someone who will torture you if you fail?

No one.

I will serve him because im terrified to death of this monster who created hell and its better to be on the same side as the monster who created hell than against it.

So Im going to do what the majority of christians do.

Serve the Lord just to save my own ass from the fire pit.

Im no different from any other christian.

I serve the Lord because he will burn me alive forever if I dont.

He even had himself tortured to death so he would not have to torture ME by burning me alive forever if I dont belive he tortured himself to death for me.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Im gonna serve him not out of love...I cant bring myself to love him because of the blackmail and the threats of untold torture.

But I CAN save myself from his dungeon if I serve him just out of plain old terror like all christians do.

I know thats a selfish way to be a christian but it seems to work for all the millions of others.

All serving the Lord out of FEAR..hammered into submission by the BLACKMAIL..FORCED into serving him by the THREAT OF TORTURE..

But LOVE??

It cant be done.

Would YOU love someone who threatened to skin you alive slowly if you didnt love them with all your heart?

No..you would think them a pshycopathic nutter.

But its OK for GOD to use the same tactics cause hes God and he can be as cruel and evil and blackmailing as he wants to be...and we had just better accept it because if we dont he will torture us all forever..IN His great LOVE and MERCY..which never FAILS...apparently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45477114


Could you please show me where in the Bible it says that God will torture people forever?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Its not in the original textx that I can find but its common doctrine now so it MUST be true because there are millions of fear filled cowering people serving God in an endless effort of denying their humanity to avid being either killed outright by God in the greatests mass SLAUGHTER since the flood..or killed and the TORTURED by him in hell.

So either way ya have to bow and serve or you die or you die AND get tortured.

Its all the fear and the terror and the cowardice that drives me and them...I dont want to be killed..so I have to love this God who threatens to kill me or torture me if I dont "Love" him..which is quite impossible under threats like that.

But I can at least PRETEND to love him like all christians do..but really im just full of fear andtrying to save my own ass like all christians.
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You know WHY it is not in the original tests?????
Because it is a man made doctrine that is no where to be found in the Bible.
There is no such thing as a burning hell
Hell is simply the same as the Hebrew word Sheol and the Greek word Hades, some translations render it "pit"- it is simply the grave, where, the Bible says we are un conscious, when we die, not burning forever.

It was a convenient doctrine for the Catholic church though to keep their masses in fear to their own profit.
And because The Catholic church forbad its "flock" to read the Bible, the people didn't know what the Bible really said and so believed and still do in Church lies


And lets use common logic for a second...have you ever seen something burn forever??? Once my wood stove runs out of wood, there is no fire
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that he might mislead the nations (People)
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Actually he and the fallen angels that are in the Pit get released so they can be sent to the fiery lake. it isn't any more complicated than that.
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Because in fiction, the writers can make shit up as they go.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

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After the tribulation there will be mortals in addition to the immortals raptured and sparred the great wrath of God. Those mortals will repopulate the earth over that 1,000 year reign of Christ. They will still have the flesh to content with and will still have to make a decision to follow Christ. At the end of the 1,000 years Satan is released to gather those mortals that would still want to rebel against Christ as God to show that even in a perfect world that Christ brings us it's all about the heart of man that corrupts him. Environment is not mankind's problem. The heart is man's downfall and we need the Holy Spirit to transform us into the image of Christ daily through repentance.

In a nutshell...
 Quoting: S.O.S.

Guess you missed the part that says everybody in Re:20:4 will be immortal and sinless and childless for the 1,000 years.

M't:22:28:
Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven?
for they all had her.
M't:22:30:
For in the resurrection they neither marry,
nor are given in marriage,
but are as the angels of God in heaven.

This may come as a bit of a shock but being with Christ for 1,000 years would probably mean Satan and some fallen angels are not going to impress you enought that you would abandon God. Do you think Satan's fate is going to be a 'secret event' it won't be, there are 1,000 celebrations to countdown to that last event before salvation comes to all of mankind.
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Yep im nvinced..\\

Im going to serve the Lord.

Not cause I love him though.


Who can love someone who will torture you if you fail?

No one.

I will serve him because im terrified to death of this monster who created hell and its better to be on the same side as the monster who created hell than against it.

So Im going to do what the majority of christians do.

Serve the Lord just to save my own ass from the fire pit.

Im no different from any other christian.

I serve the Lord because he will burn me alive forever if I dont.

He even had himself tortured to death so he would not have to torture ME by burning me alive forever if I dont belive he tortured himself to death for me.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Im gonna serve him not out of love...I cant bring myself to love him because of the blackmail and the threats of untold torture.

But I CAN save myself from his dungeon if I serve him just out of plain old terror like all christians do.

I know thats a selfish way to be a christian but it seems to work for all the millions of others.

All serving the Lord out of FEAR..hammered into submission by the BLACKMAIL..FORCED into serving him by the THREAT OF TORTURE..

But LOVE??

It cant be done.

Would YOU love someone who threatened to skin you alive slowly if you didnt love them with all your heart?

No..you would think them a pshycopathic nutter.

But its OK for GOD to use the same tactics cause hes God and he can be as cruel and evil and blackmailing as he wants to be...and we had just better accept it because if we dont he will torture us all forever..IN His great LOVE and MERCY..which never FAILS...apparently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45477114


Could you please show me where in the Bible it says that God will torture people forever?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Its not in the original textx that I can find but its common doctrine now so it MUST be true because there are millions of fear filled cowering people serving God in an endless effort of denying their humanity to avid being either killed outright by God in the greatests mass SLAUGHTER since the flood..or killed and the TORTURED by him in hell.

So either way ya have to bow and serve or you die or you die AND get tortured.

Its all the fear and the terror and the cowardice that drives me and them...I dont want to be killed..so I have to love this God who threatens to kill me or torture me if I dont "Love" him..which is quite impossible under threats like that.

But I can at least PRETEND to love him like all christians do..but really im just full of fear andtrying to save my own ass like all christians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45477114


You know WHY it is not in the original tests?????
Because it is a man made doctrine that is no where to be found in the Bible.
There is no such thing as a burning hell
Hell is simply the same as the Hebrew word Sheol and the Greek word Hades, some translations render it "pit"- it is simply the grave, where, the Bible says we are un conscious, when we die, not burning forever.

It was a convenient doctrine for the Catholic church though to keep their masses in fear to their own profit.
And because The Catholic church forbad its "flock" to read the Bible, the people didn't know what the Bible really said and so believed and still do in Church lies


And lets use common logic for a second...have you ever seen something burn forever??? Once my wood stove runs out of wood, there is no fire
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


True.

But the wood is dead and if it could have felt pain during its burning it would have been in utter agony.

We are all bits of wood to god.


We dont serve him he burns us up in great agony.

OH the love and joy that inspires in me..

Ill have to pretend to love him more so I dont get burnt up by him.

Ya know..id really LIKE to truly love God but its just so hard to respect and love someone when they threaten you will a terrible horrible death if you ever leave them..

There are men that treat woen like this..force them to stay..and track them down and kill them if they ever try to leave the hell they are in.

But its OK for God to act the same way..Hes God..he can break any social more he wants and be as blackmailing and cruel andf evil as he wants and we cant say ANYTHING about it..cause if we do..its BURN TIME!!!..burnt to DEATH.

So..its back to cowering in fear and pretending to LOVE God with you and the rest of the ones under the thumb.

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