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glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi

 
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glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
book by dr. barry sears, "the anti-inflammation zone" claims that silent inflammation, which can only be determined by the application of a SIP test, is the cause of most of the western world's health problems

anyone with diabetes type 2, arthritis, cardiovascular disease, obesity is already far gone into the inflammatory syndrome

his sites are [link to inflammationresearchfoundation.org]

and [link to www.zonelabsinc.com]

the best shot at taking out the inflammation is taking high doses of extremely refined fish oil, retailers of which are to be found at a canadian university's website, [link to www.ifosprogram.com]

dr. sears says 5 to 7.5 to 10 grams a day, depending on the severity of your diseases...will also reduce pain from arthritis on an ongoing basis

[link to www.nutrasource.ca]

gives 5 star ratings for various retailers of fish oil by their batch number...clicking mouse on each report gives details of where to find them

regular fish oil is fraught with contaminants like mercury and pcbs, as they are at the top of the ocean food chain

am going to try this for my inflammatory problems, and am hoping to get some relief...i am in no way financially connected to any of this, just a fellow sufferer looking for some relief

has anyone else tried high-dosage fish oil for any health conditions...could you please give your feedback here?
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Go on to mercola.com and in his inquiry box type in cod liver oil. There is a ratio of body wt to tsp's oil that you should not exceed. Frankly, I don't know what the signs of overdose are. However, if you are regularly going to dose with any omega-3 oil with vitamin D, you need to take a monthly vit D test, to make sure you are not over-dosing.
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
thanks for the warning; they didn't specify cod liver oil, which being processed from livers, has a large amount of D, but fish oil and also GLA, a fatty acid oil that comes from borage plants

they said about 5 to 10 grams of purified fish oil a day, and up to a gram of gla a day for people with advanced inflammatory problems, like cardiovascular and diabetes

although not cheap, there are little if any side effects, and they promise that chronic inflammation will be stopped cold

up till now, there hasn't been much hope extended; i have an autoimmune condition that i am hoping this will cure
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
Great info OP, thanks.....
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Eat cheeseburgers and beer....they cure everything.
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
aloe vera is another thing you can take that really reduces inflamation.
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so what's the absolute best brand to buy?
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
Carlson's codliver oil is about the best. I had some success with joint inflammation and pain when I took the codliver oil. The only difficult side is that I would belch it and sometimes have nausea in the AM. It is also rather expensive.
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lmao
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
Google Serrapeptase. It is a silk worm enzyme also called "serratia peptide" which under patent to TAKEDA PHAMACEUTICALS in Japan only as a prescription anti-inflamatory agent called "Danzen" or "Dasen" and, sadly, for none of its other beneficial effects.

Google the name of the late German doctor, Hans Nieper, as well and read about his work in Germany with Serrapeptase. This amazing enzyme is not only effective against inflamation/arthritis, but it also cleared Dr Nieper's patients' carotid arteries and possibly coronery arteries of plaque buildup.

If you decide to try it, make sure to get an enteric-coated version as it should be absorbed in the intestines rather than in the stomach.

A friend bought a significant supply for me from ENEREX of Burnaby BC, Canada and their website is www.Enerex.ca if anyone wants to pursue this inexpensive, natural supplement which seems to be perfectly safe if used as directed.

It has already made my arthritis disappear and has sharply reduced inflamation/pain in a hip joint (caused by an old injury).

I am contuing to take this twice a day in the hope that it will act like "Drano" and clear out the plaque visible in my latest angiogram film in my partially blocked coronary arteries. Who knows? One can always pray for a miracle, right?

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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
i should have been more specific; both of the books that i have been reading (not that i have any medical or nutritional training; am just another yob, but both authors have done a good job in making their books idiot proof) have specified highly purified FISH OIL, not cod liver oil, which is a different product and comes from only the livers

the books are: "inflammation nation" by floyd h chilton phd, and "the anti-inflammation zone" by dr. barry sears

am trying to find a brand that is highly purified and free from the mercury and pcbs that taint regular fish oil, because the impurities are so toxic they can cause problems

the canadian site that was mentioned lists some brands they have tested for purity, and most of them are from brand names that i have noticed have rather high dollar markups, like dr weil's brand

this stuff gets expensive to take at high dosages, so am going to keep looking...one cheapo catalogue was doctor's nutrition, another was swanson...the swanson gives like a 70% markup from the name brands, and their products are usually of a good grade...they are at swansonvitamins.com

the gla is more expensive than the fish oil, but it sounds like the lack of these fatty oils in the american diet are the main causes of rampant inflammation in the american public, and are the root causes of a number of killer diseases...obesity is caused by lack of fatty acids, and then the fat cells themselves turn into producers of inflammatory chemicals, the worst of which is arachidonic acid

there is more to the books' programs than just the fatty acid intake, so they are worthwhile checking out of a public library...but the one thing that is an absolute must is the intake of purified fish oil

the fish oil should be gradually introduced into the diet, or otherwise it might cause some gastric distressing, like belching and gas...start with a low dosage and work your way up
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
this is no doubt a boreass topic to some; but anyone who is undergoing an autoimmune problem could do worse than look into these programs

i go to a rheumatologist for the autoimmune disease, and there is never a mention of nutrition as the root cause

it seems the only thing ama docs know from is shit like longterm prednison steroids, which will cause cellular changes through out the body

it is like the cardiologist that i have been seeing for congestive heart failure; the only thing that has helped me is large doses of co-q-10, which is expensive, but a local vitamin store went belly up, and i cleaned out all of their shelves of the stuff at a $1 a bottle

people looked at me like i was insane, but screw em, the stuff is unbelievably expensive, especially when you are taking it at 500 mg dosages to try and reduce your heart size...it is the main prescription drug in japan for heart problems, and only the japanese make the stuff

my old man got congestive heart failure, too...never had the energy to sit up straight in his wheelchair, and now he can walk on the co q 10
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
I just stopped taking all of my 'pain killers' 'oxycontin/oxycoet/baclofen/oxyapam..It's been over a week and I feel much better without them then with them..I won't bother taking any of those types of meds again.No matter how much pain i'm in.I decided to excersise instead and stretch and I haven't had any pain in a week.Doctors just want to push pills on people and make them into 'zombies'
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
I was recently told my blood pressure is rather high... they gave me one
kind of prescription (said most people require 2 or 3) which made me feel like shit
I read that apple cider vinegar and garlic help with hypertension (now how
to get it into my tummy without yak


anyone know about natural help for high
blood pressure?
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Good job Ghost hunter, getting off the pain meds. I have found them very ineffective anyway. When I broke my knee, the meds made me loopy but didn't touch the pain in my leg, so I quit taking them.
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
daily garlic for high blood pressure, liquid Kyolic is best. I put it in a gelatin capsule.
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
got high blood pressure, too...

found that eating whole rye grain products (the only one i can find is crackers like rye-crisp...everything else is white flour with like rye flavoring) supposedly takes blood pressure down

the same research doctor author says that eating celery will lower blood pressure

so i have rye crackers with a spread and am making celery juice for an afternoon snack...

just souvenired an expensive acme juicer for $10 out of a goodwill that appears functional, almost new...retail they are like $250 or so

ran it through the dishwasher a couple times and am making juice now...

good health costs, but getting sick sucks
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
best i've ever seen is from a new flax product:
www.activatedbotanicals.com
works like a charm!
and it still has the fiber so the BM thing is WAY better too...
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
Along with the Omega-3 (try eating baked salmon-or herring sometimes), also take selenium, up to 200 microgrms-(smells terrible)and vitamin E,up to 400IU - daily. Take seleniun and E together. E helps the seleniun work more effectivly.

I take those 3 things for Rheum. arthritis.
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Inflamation is bad. I think it is a sign of subclinical infection by various micro-organisms (viruses, bacterial, fungi, molds and others) which can adapt to our bodies and our immune systems a lot faster than we can defend against them. Anything that helps to reduce the load on our immune system is good. Personally I think something like the Air Oasis air purifier makes a lot of sense. If the air we are breathing has a lot of stuff in it that is attacking us then how smart is that? I suspect that mold spores in the air can contribute to a lot of health problems. Antiinflamatory agents like aloe or fish oil do not necessarily get to to root of the problem, which is the constant barrage of attacks by micro-organisms which we suffer.
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for what it worth !

I had 4x bypass in 1999 was also told I had type 2 diabetis

I have had problems with my teeth for 20 years .

At the end of 2005 , I went to a new dentist

She took one look at my teeth and told me I needed to have them all removed .

They were all full of inflammation.

we talked about my bypass and 2 diabetis
she told me that they now think that
iflamation may be the real cause of
hart attach .

On my last Dr. appointment i told him about my coversation with the dentist

He confermed it .
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"Antiinflamatory agents like aloe or fish oil do not necessarily get to to root of the problem, which is the constant barrage of attacks by micro-organisms which we suffer."

fuji, according to the phd researcher into dietary fats, the lack of the fats and fatty acids in the typical american diet is the root cause of the breakdown of the immune system...the little white cells can't function without certain food components, the most important of which is fish oil

even farm bred fish have to be fed wild sea fish oil, or they won't survive

the microorganisms are constantly present in the atmosphere and environment...the immune system has to be kept healthy in order to deal with them
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Carlson's codliver oil is about the best. I had some success with joint inflammation and pain when I took the codliver oil.
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I understand that the absorbtion of calcium into the body is greatly facilitated by codliver oil. Also, that many joint problems are due to calcium defiency
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Pineapple is a natural anti inflammatory, I eat one a day.
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This is helpful information. Thank you all for sharing.

I tried codliver oil capsules one time - couldn't take them, as they kept upsetting my tummy.

When I went to the health food store about my higher than normal blood pressure, they suggested a b-complex and potassium. I think, though, that my thyroid isn't working at optimum and nothing is going to work until I get that back into gear.
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
Blood pressure...Yes! I just got off a 60 day raw fruit diet. During that time I did the lemon cleanse for 5 days. (not long enough) Anyway, I was on 420 mg of Tiazac, plus accuretic, which has BP med in it.

I am totally off the BP meds now. My BP is still higher than I want it to be, but it runs in the high 140 to mid 150...bottom number is usually pretty good...below 90, I drank lots of lemons plus lots of Cayenne Pepper. Both links are below.

PS I had a tipple bypass in 2000. And I'm off meds now, so you can do it too. I think the "raw fruit" diet and the lemon cleanse will help with just about everything that is wrong in your body. Anything that has the life giving seeds within the fruit you eat is classified as fruit for this diet.

I made a wonderful salad with: Cucumbers, Bell Peppers, Olives (probably not considered as raw, but I
sparingly used them anyway) Avocado, Tomatoes, with Extra Virgin Olive oil, first cold pressed.

After the 60 days, now I'm 'stir frying' the above ingredients. A group of online friends when on this together. The least anyone lost was 25 lbs. Some lost 38 lbs. We feel great!


[link to therawfoodsite.com]
[link to www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com]

PPS...there are many good sites on the value of Cayenne pepper.
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You would be surprised what a bowel cleanse and liver flush could do for these problems are far as alleviating them, my mother has done a bowel cleanse for a month now, she has type 1 diabetes, her blood sugar was just over 200 before she began the cleanse, now it never goes any higher than 117, also she did a parasite killer, she told my she passed some large round worms, one was about a foot long she said.
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Re: glp healthnut corner: "silent inflammation": epidemic levels causing diabetes, obesity, arthritis, alzheimers...cure? high purity epa/dha fi
Inflamation is caused by an overly aggressive immune system`s response to a precieved threat. Stop eating the crap food, and start taking proteolytic enzymes with your cooked foods. Also take them between meals.....Serrapeptase, and bromlein(from pineapple) are proteolytic enzymes(protein digesting)

Fish oil taken early in the day can make you feel nausea.

Check out the Seasonal,Hayfever(inflamation) thread.
It is related to this thread.
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Has anyone here ever done a gallbladder cleanse - or is there one?
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User ID: 90563...Can you give the link for the bowell cleanse, and if it's not online, the name of the product and where one can purchase it? Thanks in advance.

Here's another good link for Cayneen Pepper. It's a must for good health....it enables the other herbs, etc to get to where they need to be.

[link to seekers.100megs6.com]





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