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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2237867 United States 08/20/2013 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima I wish my friend would have commented more. He did tell me his unit offered to consult and assist to mitigate the situation, but was turned down. At that point, he simply stated "screwed". He is currently based in the U.K.. He has never talked very much, but when he says something, I listen. Quoting: sawmill Don't the 'ghreys' refer to some sort of 'accident' which turned the planet into a wasteland and . . . us into them ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32721175 08/20/2013 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima The new math problems for tomorrows children. Can't you just see it in the textbooks? If two men are standing next to a leak of radioactive steam travelling at 10 metres a minute and one man is breathing at the rate of 12 breaths per half hour and the second man is breathing at a rate of 17 breaths per half hour, which one will die of the giant tumour first? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45454654 It was actually a serious question. Are the doom figures that are being suggested above, based upon the unfortunate person absorbing all of the entire leak's emitted radiation within that hour, or is that just the amount of radiation that would be delivered in that hour within the close proximity area taken up by an average person? How many people could the current leak theoretically give a fatal dose of radiation to in just one hour? |
berniemom2012 Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 6493463 United States 08/20/2013 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima CP, I know you remember me saying this was going to start happening. Quoting: --Voltaic-- How and why is what makes me nervous. Very nervous! Radiation is increasing and radioactive water release is increasing. They mention it like it is a normal emergency release of water. But those reactors haven't been in operation for a LONG time. Also noting Tepco stated they achieved cold shut down. The water release is the result of the corium reacting with the underground water table and emergency cooling water pumped in. As radiation output increases, so does the corium reaction. As when there is smoke there is fire. So as radiation, there is a reaction occurring. Soon, God forbid, the corium will cross the critical limit. The moment enough water cools the corium enough to sustain a reaction with immediate release neutrons ONLY, it will become a slow motion nuclear bomb. Good news is most of the fuel will be consumed, the bad news is it will probably project the radioactive debris high into the upper atmosphere. Where it will circle the globe many times and gently pepper us all. The southern hemisphere will get it as it creeps across the equatorial trade winds. The west coast USA is fubared big time if such an eruption occurs. For some reason, I feel there may be a new problem considering the corium COULD mix with magma and trigger multiple volcanic eruptions and earthquakes in short time. Please stop spreading this untruth: "The west coast USA is fubared big time if such an eruption occurs." FACT - The dry areas of California have received a lot less radiation than the U.S. midwest and south, because radiation FALLS AS RAIN. How many times does this have to be said before people understand? Anyone putting themselves forth as an expert on radiation or climate needs to get this one little thing right. /rant> |
Paved In Chaos User ID: 35610176 United States 08/20/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima Does anyone know what the real readings for CA are? I dont trust that radiation network website anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29528963 I agree, when my next shipment of Soeks comes in (for Aus at least I've got four capitals set up), now to set up a site.... I'm down for a job. And would love to help in anyway possible. Set me up with some equipment and some walking cash. I'll comb the west coast and upload readings on a Daily basis. Hell, if it helps create some awareness, possibly save some lives and reduce health risks and exposure. I'd be honored. What I don't have, is extra money. I currently make just enough money to support what's mine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1630282 United States 08/20/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima |
Paved In Chaos User ID: 35610176 United States 08/20/2013 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima Does anyone know what the real readings for CA are? I dont trust that radiation network website anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29528963 I agree, when my next shipment of Soeks comes in (for Aus at least I've got four capitals set up), now to set up a site.... I'm down for a job. And would love to help in anyway possible. Set me up with some equipment and some walking cash. I'll comb the west coast and upload readings on a Daily basis. Hell, if it helps create some awareness, possibly save some lives and reduce health risks and exposure. I'd be honored. What I don't have, is extra money. I currently make just enough money to support what's mine. I also have a sweet Camper Trailer, just got it all refinished and a new F-150. So I could stay very mobile. |
Waterbug User ID: 34388912 United States 08/20/2013 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima I don't weigh in on these discussions very much, but today I will make an exception. Most of my life I was very much pro nuclear power. I studied the concept, tested my way into the military nuclear program, was signed up and ready to jump on the bus for basic training then on to Idaho to train to become a nuclear reactor operator. I decided to get married instead. That was a quality decision. One of my friends went on thru the training, and eventually not only became an operator, but later helped design the reactors placed on our military subs. We talk often. The day we realized the tsunami hit the reactors, and the support systems were known to be damaged, I was shocked into a new reality. Even with my limited knowledge, I had this unshakable reality that this situation was in fact worse than any nuclear accident I had ever tried to put my mind around. I called my friend, and told him that I heard all the assurance from tepco, but I could not come up with any scenario that this disaster could be controlled. My friend is a man of few words, and his comment confirmed my worst fears. This highly educated, trained, and extremely smart buddy summed up my worst fears with one word. Screwed. There you have it. The final blow to a once pro nuclear power guy. There really is no easy fix. If ever we could use a miracle, this is the time, this is the place. With what we now know about the dangers of playing God with nuclear power, why we have started building new, bigger reactors while virtually outlawing coal power is insanity. Are our elected leaders really this stupid, or are they really this corrupt? I cannot say with certainty where or how this will end, or how widespread the damage will be. Be assured, the doom train is out of the station and rolling down the tracks. I will be praying for a miracle. Quoting: sawmill |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36522868 United States 08/20/2013 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44038123 United States 08/20/2013 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima A new thread everyday does not change this. What is the point? Justice? no. Fear? exactly. Why do that? I appreciate the tenacity with which CP draws attention to this matter, but why does there need to be another thread seemingly daily- just add to one of the other 14 threads made on this in only the last five days. Distraction? |
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SPUD 08/20/2013 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima Every day another CP post on Fukushima... why? It is beyond the point of no return. If what is being reported is true, all life will be dead within three generations. This cannot be wound back, based on current known technology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44038123 A new thread everyday does not change this. What is the point? Justice? no. Fear? exactly. Why do that? I appreciate the tenacity with which CP draws attention to this matter, but why does there need to be another thread seemingly daily- just add to one of the other 14 threads made on this in only the last five days. Distraction? So we don't forget why everyone is dying of cancer. We've known this was coming for ever, yet man was too fucking stupid to shut it down before it kills us all. Real fucking bright. Here are a couple songs I like to listen to while reading these threads, maybe you remember them too? "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most" ___________ "May your chains rest lightly upon you..." |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 08/20/2013 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima It is not a good thing, but there's a ton of radiation and poisonous substances in our water anyway. My understanding is with the way ocean currents work this will stay in the upper pacific your kidding right? It is not a good thing, but there's a ton of radiation and poisonous substances in our water anyway. My understanding is with the way ocean currents work this will stay in the upper pacific you are wrong.. oh so wrong about that young one. IMAGE ( [link to www.kidsgeo.com] ) serious question then, why wouldn't it stay in a continuous circle with the current? [link to www.miamisci.org] look at the animation....looks like this will spread down around the southern tip of south america. up into the artic as well. don't forget how the sea life will carry these hot particles everywhere and spread them through out the food chang....this is not an issue of it happened now clean it up.... this is an on going event and the sum totals of this disaster ARE GROWING daily! Last Edited by psyoptics on 08/20/2013 12:00 PM a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 08/20/2013 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima so is this... Thread: Fukushima today........here are 11 things to think about. but some times the truth is scary.....why run and hide..... a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45430591 United States 08/20/2013 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima Building nuclear plant anywhere near the sea is pure insanity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45012699 The outcome is catastrophe and the UN is one big joke with the US. EVEN a brain damaged retard would have questioned the idea to build a nuclear plant direct on ocean beach...hell, I wouldn't build a simple apartment that close to the water. Its not just that. In some parts of the USA you can go to jail if you change the oil in your automobile and do not take the used oil to a reclamation facility. Jail time for 5 liters of oil that actually came from the earth in roughly the same form it comes out of you car. Who would put nuclear reactors on a 364,485 sq km island with 127 million people without an ironclad, pre-positioned spent fuel disposal process? And thats not even considering a decomission process for the reactors themselves at EOL. CIA factbook for japan. [link to www.cia.gov (secure)] |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 08/20/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by psyoptics on 08/20/2013 12:16 PM a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 08/20/2013 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima is everyone now clear how these hot particles can spread and how fast the will move????? this is what happens when this radiative mess DILUTES! a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Waterbug User ID: 34388912 United States 08/20/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima Hope you don't mind if I share this on my fear-mongering thread... [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38078368 United States 08/20/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima Every day another CP post on Fukushima... why? It is beyond the point of no return. If what is being reported is true, all life will be dead within three generations. This cannot be wound back, based on current known technology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44038123 A new thread everyday does not change this. What is the point? Justice? no. Fear? exactly. Why do that? I appreciate the tenacity with which CP draws attention to this matter, but why does there need to be another thread seemingly daily- just add to one of the other 14 threads made on this in only the last five days. Distraction? There is no MSM coverage, and us common people need to be informed of this very real and important issue, as opposed to Obama's dog's new sister. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45430591 United States 08/20/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima I remember the USA just not giving this any attention to help them either..... the WH is silent on this matter ... again. Quoting: Sara13 All the government heads are silent. That's more worrisome than if they were screaming and yelling. Absofreakinglootly. People keep railing that the Japanese won't accept outside help. Exactly which nations have offered which resources, on which timeframes and which conditions? ...<crickets>... Where are all the global climate change scientists on this? Even their own research says climate change is going to start affecting the planet in 20 years. I have a feeling they probably could make some time to give people their great knowledge applied to this issue. The russians flat out told the world almost everything about chernobyl. They accepted help, but they personally sacrificed 30,000 human lives and billions in resources to bury that thing in concrete. |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 08/20/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima it keeps getting better and better....im worse and worse! [link to enenews.com] look how hot the water is heading to the west coast of the US! a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41700650 United States 08/20/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima It is not a good thing, but there's a ton of radiation and poisonous substances in our water anyway. My understanding is with the way ocean currents work this will stay in the upper pacific Even if you were correct - you're not - if the radiation would ONLY stay in the North Pacific what is the point you're trying to make?? In what world do you live in where that would be acceptable to you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 08/20/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima CP, I know you remember me saying this was going to start happening. Quoting: --Voltaic-- How and why is what makes me nervous. Very nervous! Radiation is increasing and radioactive water release is increasing. They mention it like it is a normal emergency release of water. But those reactors haven't been in operation for a LONG time. Also noting Tepco stated they achieved cold shut down. The water release is the result of the corium reacting with the underground water table and emergency cooling water pumped in. As radiation output increases, so does the corium reaction. As when there is smoke there is fire. So as radiation, there is a reaction occurring. Soon, God forbid, the corium will cross the critical limit. The moment enough water cools the corium enough to sustain a reaction with immediate release neutrons ONLY, it will become a slow motion nuclear bomb. Good news is most of the fuel will be consumed, the bad news is it will probably project the radioactive debris high into the upper atmosphere. Where it will circle the globe many times and gently pepper us all. The southern hemisphere will get it as it creeps across the equatorial trade winds. The west coast USA is fubared big time if such an eruption occurs. For some reason, I feel there may be a new problem considering the corium COULD mix with magma and trigger multiple volcanic eruptions and earthquakes in short time. Please stop spreading this untruth: "The west coast USA is fubared big time if such an eruption occurs." FACT - The dry areas of California have received a lot less radiation than the U.S. midwest and south, because radiation FALLS AS RAIN. How many times does this have to be said before people understand? Anyone putting themselves forth as an expert on radiation or climate needs to get this one little thing right. /rant> Okay, I'll bit. Tell me, how far can plutonium travel considering the smallest of particles is equally as deadly. During WW2, the Japanese floated bombs across the Pacific with the trade winds. If that corium erupts from steam explosion, you bet your ass it will blast it VERY high. Shit will circle the globe, easily many times around. Question is how much you are going to get where you are at. Not IF you get it. Get it? |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 18275716 Australia 08/20/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Just in : Most of the leaked water has travelled out of the local dam. The total amount of leaking B nuclide is 24,000,000,000,000 Bq. Fukushima CP, I know you remember me saying this was going to start happening. Quoting: --Voltaic-- How and why is what makes me nervous. Very nervous! Radiation is increasing and radioactive water release is increasing. They mention it like it is a normal emergency release of water. But those reactors haven't been in operation for a LONG time. Also noting Tepco stated they achieved cold shut down. The water release is the result of the corium reacting with the underground water table and emergency cooling water pumped in. As radiation output increases, so does the corium reaction. As when there is smoke there is fire. So as radiation, there is a reaction occurring. Soon, God forbid, the corium will cross the critical limit. The moment enough water cools the corium enough to sustain a reaction with immediate release neutrons ONLY, it will become a slow motion nuclear bomb. Good news is most of the fuel will be consumed, the bad news is it will probably project the radioactive debris high into the upper atmosphere. Where it will circle the globe many times and gently pepper us all. The southern hemisphere will get it as it creeps across the equatorial trade winds. The west coast USA is fubared big time if such an eruption occurs. For some reason, I feel there may be a new problem considering the corium COULD mix with magma and trigger multiple volcanic eruptions and earthquakes in short time. Please stop spreading this untruth: "The west coast USA is fubared big time if such an eruption occurs." FACT - The dry areas of California have received a lot less radiation than the U.S. midwest and south, because radiation FALLS AS RAIN. How many times does this have to be said before people understand? Anyone putting themselves forth as an expert on radiation or climate needs to get this one little thing right. /rant> Okay, I'll bit. Tell me, how far can plutonium travel considering the smallest of particles is equally as deadly. During WW2, the Japanese floated bombs across the Pacific with the trade winds. If that corium erupts from steam explosion, you bet your ass it will blast it VERY high. Shit will circle the globe, easily many times around. Question is how much you are going to get where you are at. Not IF you get it. Get it? by monitoring the spikes it is traversing now every forty days, and spewing millions of beqs per hour 24/7/365 last night was an epic release as well.. looking into it It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |