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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45509332 Brazil 08/21/2013 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45087966 except for the fact that it might not 'emit' light by itself, reason why it would only be visible during the sunset or sunrise, supposing that they were distant from each other (this object and the sun). Dunno, just saying. Just because it does not emit light does not mean it does not reflect light, If it is in our solar system people like me would have been able to see this in our scopes for the last 100+ years. all of the planets in our solar system don't emit light but we can all still see them, and they don't hide. Planets/Stars cannot "sneak" into the solar system and hide for 99% of the time, only to become visible during times of the day when Digital cameras perform the worst (sunrise, sunset). And if it was real what kind of fuckwit would only record the most life shattering discovery for only 1min and 2seconds so what is in the sky in the video? Like I said, with 1min of video all anyone can do is speculate, My gut tells me at about the 1min mark they figured out it was a reflection or sundog and stopped recording. (like most 1min UFO videos) Considering the fact that 80% of the universe is dark matter and the range of things that we supposedly can see (infrared ans ultraviolet for example) I wouldn't be suprised with this. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 08/21/2013 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you think its strange this is the only video. Or is the "second sun" local to certain area's. Its always amazed me how people can be convicted of something as global as a "second sun" with a single video on the day. If there were 2 suns in the sky there would be more than a bunch of 1-2min long youtube videos to prove it. But because I can't see the second sun when I look at the sky everyday, that doesn't mean its not there right, because suns can just hide and stuff, right. Logic trumps all these videos. But I'm just a shill, you guys should find cover now, LOL except for the fact that it might not 'emit' light by itself, reason why it would only be visible during the sunset or sunrise, supposing that they were distant from each other (this object and the sun). Dunno, just saying. What? Why wouldn't it be visible after sunset? If it's visible at sunset or sunrise it must be very bright, it should be at least as bright as a bright planet or the moon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45503551 Germany 08/21/2013 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you think its strange this is the only video. Or is the "second sun" local to certain area's. Its always amazed me how people can be convicted of something as global as a "second sun" with a single video on the day. If there were 2 suns in the sky there would be more than a bunch of 1-2min long youtube videos to prove it. But because I can't see the second sun when I look at the sky everyday, that doesn't mean its not there right, because suns can just hide and stuff, right. Logic trumps all these videos. But I'm just a shill, you guys should find cover now, LOL Yeah right. You could say the same about 9/11. Why are there only a few videos ? Or what about Egypt ? Or whatever the fuck you want to choose. Your satisfied with such videos, but when topics like this popup you suddenly try to use your common sense. Fuck off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45510314 Brazil 08/21/2013 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you think its strange this is the only video. Or is the "second sun" local to certain area's. Its always amazed me how people can be convicted of something as global as a "second sun" with a single video on the day. If there were 2 suns in the sky there would be more than a bunch of 1-2min long youtube videos to prove it. But because I can't see the second sun when I look at the sky everyday, that doesn't mean its not there right, because suns can just hide and stuff, right. Logic trumps all these videos. But I'm just a shill, you guys should find cover now, LOL except for the fact that it might not 'emit' light by itself, reason why it would only be visible during the sunset or sunrise, supposing that they were distant from each other (this object and the sun). Dunno, just saying. What? Why wouldn't it be visible after sunset? If it's visible at sunset or sunrise it must be very bright, it should be at least as bright as a bright planet or the moon. I don't know. As I first said it was one assumption. Considering the angle which was presented on the video it would be unlikely that a circular-shaped ovject could take form in that place due to the sun of the light. The odds are significantly minimum. Now about the supposedly object.. it's well known that there are many things in the space that are simply invisible to the human eye. Which means that a normal telescope wouldn't detect it even if it was right in front of its lens. You just can see it. Its also well known that the u.s govt has release a space program called Sofia which consists basically in monitoring the sky using one telescope equipped with infrared in one airplane that is constantly flying over the Atlantic. Now I know ot might just be a coincidence. . But I seriously doubt that in harsh times like these people would invest millions in something just by coincidence. Just saying |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 08/21/2013 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Doommincus Maximus Don't you think its strange this is the only video. Or is the "second sun" local to certain area's. Its always amazed me how people can be convicted of something as global as a "second sun" with a single video on the day. If there were 2 suns in the sky there would be more than a bunch of 1-2min long youtube videos to prove it. But because I can't see the second sun when I look at the sky everyday, that doesn't mean its not there right, because suns can just hide and stuff, right. Logic trumps all these videos. But I'm just a shill, you guys should find cover now, LOL except for the fact that it might not 'emit' light by itself, reason why it would only be visible during the sunset or sunrise, supposing that they were distant from each other (this object and the sun). Dunno, just saying. What? Why wouldn't it be visible after sunset? If it's visible at sunset or sunrise it must be very bright, it should be at least as bright as a bright planet or the moon. I don't know. As I first said it was one assumption. Considering the angle which was presented on the video it would be unlikely that a circular-shaped ovject could take form in that place due to the sun of the light. The odds are significantly minimum. Now about the supposedly object.. it's well known that there are many things in the space that are simply invisible to the human eye. Which means that a normal telescope wouldn't detect it even if it was right in front of its lens. You just can see it. If it's in a video on youtube taken with some sort of cell phone or video camera, my telescope can see it if it's a real object. Now I know ot might just be a coincidence. . But I seriously doubt that in harsh times like these people would invest millions in something just by coincidence. Quoting: ACJust saying It's called infrared astronomy, and it's a real field with real research that doesn't involve "Nibiru." And yes, they spend millions on it just like they spend millions on other wavelengths of astronomy. Frankly they spend far more on visible light astronomy than they do infrared, the infrared guys get the short end of the stick. Compared to the national budget, WISE, Spitzer, and other infrared space telescopes don't even register as a drop in the bucket. The final Hubble servicing mission alone cost far more than either one, almost more than both combined. Hubble's total cost with all servicing missions factored in has been about 9 billion ( [link to www.astromart.com] ), which is more than every infrared telescope launched by NASA combined: $755 million for IRAS in today's dollars [link to news.google.com] + no more than $120 million for SWAS, about $160 million in today's dollars [link to www.daviddarling.info] + 95 million in today's dollars for WIRE (which burned off its coolant before it could observe due to a failure of a cover right after launch) [link to en.wikipedia.org] + Spitzer at 720 million [link to wiki.answers.com] + Herschel at 1.26 billion (1 billion in euros) [link to www.sussex.ac.uk] + $320 million for WISE. Altogether, NASA has spent (and I'm counting total mission costs even for missions they shared with other agencies) $3.31 billion on infrared space telescopes over their entire history, and nearly three times that much on Hubble alone. About $3.64 billion if you count Sofia, which is downright affordable compared to most other missions and longer lasting than most other far infrared missions as well. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45511098 Sweden 08/21/2013 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you think its strange this is the only video. Or is the "second sun" local to certain area's. Its always amazed me how people can be convicted of something as global as a "second sun" with a single video on the day. If there were 2 suns in the sky there would be more than a bunch of 1-2min long youtube videos to prove it. But because I can't see the second sun when I look at the sky everyday, that doesn't mean its not there right, because suns can just hide and stuff, right. Logic trumps all these videos. But I'm just a shill, you guys should find cover now, LOL This! |
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FuzzleFace User ID: 43871895 United States 08/21/2013 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh geez, slow night on GLP, read about sun dogs, you silly bastards. I'm all for the possibility that a second sun could come crashing through our solar system, just cause, why not!? However this is easily debunked as the natural phenomena that was already mentioned a few times (sun dogs) or, don't look that word up, call up everyone you know and tell them nerbooboo has arrived to destroy everything. Nooooo!!! Nibrubu comin ya'll!!!! This is all a joke!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45316232 United States 08/21/2013 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no way of knowing if this is true, and I probably shouldn't even post it, but read this from thors' site: "these sensative instruments are alll north needle indicator pointing south east,, in mombai 55/55 north is east,, the entire hemesphere is reading south with sensative compasses it is not your compass reverse pole effect,,is that was true,it would point south not south east and move back and forth 20 degrees back and forth in a 24 hr period, the compass is reading the north pole of the red dwarf,i have named THE ANGRY CATFISH yes what revelations is true,but its 2nd sun not 2nd coming of son.look,field survey transit compass owners do not take your highly sensitive instruments to be fixed,they arent broken,being as they are sooooo sensitive they move due to the iron content in our blood they are tracking east to south east and south south east,moving back and forth 20 degrees tracking the red dwarf even in the day.some compasses even som army ones are for field direction and are no where near as sensitive as a survey compass like even coleman also note sun 6th day rising due north." |
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Red Blues User ID: 44302212 United States 08/21/2013 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, I dunno but it seems to me that is there were two suns, there would also be two shadows... The moon is considerably less brilliant than this object appears and I know on evenings where we have a full moon, the light reflected from the moon is still bright enough to cast a shadow. Anyone have a video that shows both this wandering astral object that also shows the two shadows such an object would produce? No? Didn't think so. |
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