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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43757840 United Kingdom 08/25/2013 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cloud Hidden To be completely in the present moment, dissolves the illusion of time. Then you're not living in a expected future or a past memory. All you've got is now. There are signs that Jesus didn't want to die, what do you say to that? "He didnt look forward to hanging on the cross, no. He asked the Father, if there was any other way to do this, and he knew there wasnt. However Gods presence was with him while he was hanging and then left from pain of watching his son, Jesus said, why have you forsaken me, as in why did you leave?? Luke 22:41-43 talks about Him praying for there to be another way, but saying ultimately not my will but thine be done." [link to answers.yahoo.com] Having an insight into divinity doesn't stop you from being human. I'm pretty sure Jesus would cry in pain just as you would if for example shot or stabbed (in his case, crucified). PS. I don't think Jesus was any more than just a regular wise human being. I think you just refuted yourself because Jesus couldn't have had insight into divinity without having "truly lived"... A person who has truly lived for even a split moment is content to die in the evening. Don't be silly and take what he said totally out of context. Death is death, and pain is pain. There are 2 very different things. Just because you do not fear death does not mean you won't squirm and cry in pain - that is human after-all. |
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Shinto Trainee User ID: 45721033 Japan 08/25/2013 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't usually get involved in Fukushima threads (sigh) but... Personally I don't consider that I have enough knowelege to evaluate how bad it really is. To the OP I would counter with the question: what is it you think people should do? Do you think something can/should be done that is not being done? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11835313 Australia 08/25/2013 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, im fair sure he had the option to die at will as all ascended beings do. But no, he chose to live the human life to its fullest, including death. You, my friend, just made my day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11835313 Australia 08/25/2013 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be completely in the present moment, dissolves the illusion of time. Then you're not living in a expected future or a past memory. All you've got is now. There are signs that Jesus didn't want to die, what do you say to that? "He didnt look forward to hanging on the cross, no. He asked the Father, if there was any other way to do this, and he knew there wasnt. However Gods presence was with him while he was hanging and then left from pain of watching his son, Jesus said, why have you forsaken me, as in why did you leave?? Luke 22:41-43 talks about Him praying for there to be another way, but saying ultimately not my will but thine be done." [link to answers.yahoo.com] Actually, im fair sure he had the option to die at will as all ascended beings do. But no, he chose to live the human life to its fullest, including death. You friend, just made my day. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40364388 Netherlands 08/25/2013 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first shot and the last shot were fired long, long ago, the war is as good as over: Thread: What happens to the OTHER nuclear power plants when Japan is evacuated? |
Madcracka User ID: 28310464 United States 08/25/2013 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm looking for a reason for the apathy concerning Fukushima and this theory is looking good to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38756104 What do you think? Live, most people just settle and give up on dreams Tolerance is submission, Success is the struggle, There is America and then there is the world. Isaiah 32:18 My people will live in peaceful dwelling places, in secure homes, in undisturbed places of rest. KAG |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40364388 Netherlands 08/25/2013 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38422418 There are signs that Jesus didn't want to die, what do you say to that? "He didnt look forward to hanging on the cross, no. He asked the Father, if there was any other way to do this, and he knew there wasnt. However Gods presence was with him while he was hanging and then left from pain of watching his son, Jesus said, why have you forsaken me, as in why did you leave?? Luke 22:41-43 talks about Him praying for there to be another way, but saying ultimately not my will but thine be done." [link to answers.yahoo.com] Having an insight into divinity doesn't stop you from being human. I'm pretty sure Jesus would cry in pain just as you would if for example shot or stabbed (in his case, crucified). PS. I don't think Jesus was any more than just a regular wise human being. I think you just refuted yourself because Jesus couldn't have had insight into divinity without having "truly lived"... A person who has truly lived for even a split moment is content to die in the evening. Don't be silly and take what he said totally out of context. Death is death, and pain is pain. There are 2 very different things. Just because you do not fear death does not mean you won't squirm and cry in pain - that is human after-all. Out of context? There was no context, just one sentence posted by itself. |
natasha77 User ID: 35682194 United States 08/25/2013 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm afraid of what happens when I die. Quoting: calx I'm afraid of losing all my memories and being born here again to be a vaccinated autistic baby fed with GMO poisons by idiot parents. Lol. So true!!! You always make me smile. SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY! I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40364388 Netherlands 08/25/2013 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't usually get involved in Fukushima threads (sigh) but... Quoting: Shinto Trainee Personally I don't consider that I have enough knowelege to evaluate how bad it really is. To the OP I would counter with the question: what is it you think people should do? Do you think something can/should be done that is not being done? If there was an awake and aware world populace that wanted to live... Thread: Fukushima: Worldwide STRIKE until TEPCO is gone! Shut down the world economy and there would be action by the governments of the world to rectify the situation as best they could! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45087966 Brazil 08/25/2013 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People just can't stand corruption anymore. People are sick of being manipulated and deceived. Every one knows by now that something has to change, and maybe this is the reason why we are 'unconciously' looking for it, maybe even desiring it. And it doesn't make us evil - just normal people who have had more than enough of a sick world, enough of violence, pollution, destruction, lies, govt bullshit, disrespect, etc.. Just this. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 38538035 Australia 08/25/2013 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's flip the coin for a moment. what if you chose to be here to see this unfold?... would it make any difference? i' blessed with age to be here right at the time to document. children's children are the real problem, and i fortunately bought puppy dogs, as i wasn't blessed with any (though i raised two). to die or to live? death is not an equation when we are young. when you get older, it is opinion, of where am i and what for. that's the individual question on a personal level that needs to between you and yourself. does life mean anything? does death change anything? cool questions. It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45724276 United Kingdom 08/25/2013 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have WANTED to live a completely different life than the one I have been FORCED to live. And if the rest of my life only holds the promise of more of the same, then I can't wait for all of this shit to be over. "Afraid" and "fear" don't really describe what I feel about living...I think "resigned" sums it up pretty well. And I welcome death, I just hope I live long enough to see all of this madness to come to an end. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 38756104 Netherlands 08/25/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a lot of people are giving up on this world. But they are not killing themselves. What they are doing is praying, willing, meditating, doing rituals, summoning, call it what you will but what they want is an end to this world. Each person is a provocateur of trouble making to bring on the change quicker. They are self proclaimed "wizards" and really truly hate this world. The numbers of people like this are growing to extreme proportions. Quoting: SpiritWarriors 45537540 This is NOT good. But it is happening. People have given up on peace making any kind of a difference so they are trying the opposite. They are trying to destroy this world by force of will. They literally hate the modern world and all the broken promises and false progress it said would make life better. It has not. It is a failure. People are NOT happy. This growing number of angry secretive people using the intangible self to destroy the modern world is a very bad situation that will lead to horrors beyond imagination. This is what the machine world has created. This is what those who promised the machine world would make life better but who have lied have given us. Many people are projecting their inner hatred for this modern world outward. This is what happens when you bring people into the world and have no plan on how to insure their happiness in a filthy, evil, snake pit of a place. This is what happens when you don't emphasize love and peace above anything else. This is what happens when you believe in the mocking and ridiculing and the necessary cruelty. This is what happens when you bring people into the world and expect them to just be happy because now they are here and must adapt or else. Or else ????? Are you fucking crazy ? That attitude is only gasoline on the fire. Soul magic is being used to change things. The machine world has no chance. Our civilization is doomed. If this is a disease that's taken over the whole world, then it may explain why the leadership of the world is doing nothing about Fukushima (almost completely), they want the end too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38116888 United States 08/25/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person who has truly lived for even a split moment is content to die in the evening. Quoting: Cloud Hidden What's your definition of "truly live"? Tasted the present moment. my definition of truly living is to live, and to not be afraid of dying |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38116888 United States 08/25/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person who has truly lived for even a split moment is content to die in the evening. Quoting: Cloud Hidden What's your definition of "truly live"? Tasted the present moment. my definition of truly living is to live, and to not be afraid of dying to live without regret and the fear of dying, is truly living |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45726312 Netherlands 08/25/2013 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my definition of truly living is to live, and to not be afraid of dying to live without regret and the fear of dying, is truly living Regret has helped me to learn a lot, I wouldn't want to give up regret. Why do you think that's a positive thing? |
moses787 User ID: 41084500 United States 08/25/2013 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm looking for a reason for the apathy concerning Fukushima and this theory is looking good to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38756104 What do you think? It is a wonderful and great thing when you die knowing and serving Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour; because once you die in Christ, your spirit and soul will shoot straight up to heaven. And once you are in heaven, you will be living like a god or goddess. As your past families and friends who made it to heaven will come and greet you as soon as you get there. And they will hug you and kiss you and will eventually take you to your mansion that has already been built of gold and silver and diamonds and rubies and pearls. And you will even have the ability to return to the Earth occasionally, and visit your loved ones that you left behind on the Earth. But if you die without Jesus Christ being your Lord and Saviour; and if you die as a sinner, your soul and spirit will come out of your dead body and you will immediately be sucked straight down into hell. And hell is in the center of the Earth. And once you arrive in hell in about 60 seconds or so; the demons will immediately to attacking you and ripping you to shreds with their spears and pitchforks. And you will holler and cry and scream because of the severe pain. And you will bleed and try to fight them back; but they are 50 times stronger than you are. And are 10 to 19 foot tall, at times. And after hours of their tormenting's, they will throw you into a small barred cell; or they will take you to their lord Satan, who will light you up with his fireballs, and have you hollering and screaming again. And after that, the demons will either put you into the same barred cell; or throw you into your own little pit of fire. And if you are in the barred cell; a fire comes through it several times a day. And if you are in a little pit of fire; every 20 minutes to one half hour at the most, a fire starts at your feet, and spreads up your body and you will scream in great pains and agonies from it!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45680121 United Kingdom 08/25/2013 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person who has truly lived for even a split moment is content to die in the evening. Quoting: Cloud Hidden Oh i like this one! Why? Nothing should take away a person's natural self-preservation instinct, that's very unnatural and negative imho. Do you agree or disagree? Strongly disagree. The self-preservation instinct is not natural but something that we developed when the world changed to a world ruled by religion and law. |
Citizenperth User ID: 38538035 Australia 08/25/2013 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i like the point of why you want to be here when you have no idea about what it is all about, and what comes next.. makes life a house of mirrors/////////////\\\\\\\\\ It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45726339 United States 08/25/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My grandma gave up living, she just gave up and died :( . Doctors didnt find nothing wrong with her, she was prety healthy, even our family linage has good genes. She said at a time in the nursing home, your pa will pick me up in 3 days time, once those 3 days passed, she died. Strangest talk I had with her. Not sure what to make of this story. Not sure how people can just "die" , or getting their body to shut down on command? |