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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9195525 United States 09/04/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | circulating email: LEO Recently, the rash of "booksellers" going door to door soliciting information has caught my attention. A couple of weeks ago we had a visit at our home. My wife told me about the visit later in the day. It is similar to what has been reported, a white male (blond hair, blue eyes) soliciting information about quantity children in the house, and claiming to sell books. He had some type of ID on a chain. He claimed to be from Minnesota and was driving a car with a Florida license plate. I was able to determine the car was a rental. My wife also told me he kept looking inside the house and also asked for a Band-Aid, possibly as a ruse to look inside. He was not allowed into the house. Fast forward to today. At work I received a situational awareness bulletin (disseminated statewide) describing an incident where a federal officer had a visit from a w/m claiming to be a radio station intern and neighbor. The solicitor asked where the fed worked and had an ID card covered in words forming sentences with no meaning. The solicitor asked for a bottle of water (ruse to get inside the house) was refused and left. The solicitor was seen passing by several houses to go to a nearby local law enforcement officer's home, where he was also sent packing. FYI I have been a law enforcement officer for nearly 20 years. Most of my time has been spent working as a Deputy Sheriff and I currently work as a state L.E. officer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15746720 United States 09/11/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | circulating email: my grandson called me, a senior in high school, and heard many homes having Russian men and women saying they are foreign students coming and asking about children. They heard some children had been kidnapped. But after I told him what I knew from your alerts, my oldest grandson 20 yr. said a Russian salesman came to his house this week looking for his uncles' house which was next door to him, and said they were wanting to know about his daughter and gave her name to my grandson, she is 5yrs. old, then noticed the fenced in play area where his mom use to have daycare and they wanted to know how many children lived there. This is in a rural area, outside of Plainfield, Indiana where they are coming to homes and asking about children. THEY ALREADY KNOW WHO LIVES THERE AND WHAT THEIR NAMES ARE!! Linda J. (This is west of Indianapolis) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46086771 China 09/11/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had this happen. 2 of them came to my door saying they were students from Estonia and were asking questions about everyone on the street. How many kids, how old they were...etc etc... They were aggressively trying to get in my house. Aggressive sales tactics i mean. I didn't let them in of course. I made a thread about it somewhere on here but i cant find it now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15746720 United States 09/11/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had this happen. 2 of them came to my door saying they were students from Estonia and were asking questions about everyone on the street. How many kids, how old they were...etc etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46086771 They were aggressively trying to get in my house. Aggressive sales tactics i mean. I didn't let them in of course. I made a thread about it somewhere on here but i cant find it now. did you see that video at top of page? the data on the guy's sheet? not even social workers carry that kind of data around about the whole area. it had numerous addresses and names and ages -- demographics on that guy's tablet. Question is, what is this rally for? and why is law enforcement not investigating this or making arrest, or relaying information to their concerned public? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46086771 China 09/11/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had this happen. 2 of them came to my door saying they were students from Estonia and were asking questions about everyone on the street. How many kids, how old they were...etc etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46086771 They were aggressively trying to get in my house. Aggressive sales tactics i mean. I didn't let them in of course. I made a thread about it somewhere on here but i cant find it now. did you see that video at top of page? the data on the guy's sheet? not even social workers carry that kind of data around about the whole area. it had numerous addresses and names and ages -- demographics on that guy's tablet. Question is, what is this rally for? and why is law enforcement not investigating this or making arrest, or relaying information to their concerned public? I didn't watch the vid because i knew exactly what you were talking about. I will though. I was freaked out also, thats why i made a thread about it and detailed what happened. This guy had a note pad and a hand drawn diagram of the street with notes besides the houses. Scary part was he was getting this info from the neighbors! He was pumping me for info the same way. The back story was thet were from Estonia selling a learning system for children. They told me Estonia was a country close to Finland, which it is relatively speaking. It shares it's entire western border with Russia though and finland is across an arm from whatever sea they have up their.(Baltic?) I wish i could find that thread. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18261617 United States 09/11/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestlty OP. You are a fucking useless idiot. Realyl your a fucking morooooon! There is no word I can think of right now to describe how utterly mindless you are. I wish serious bodily harm on you and your family for being such a fucking dumb American. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45981961 I bet you do you Fucking COMMIE RAT BASTARD |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46086771 China 09/11/2013 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey dude i watched the video. Yeah, same accent and demeanor. Mine were more aggressive about getting in the home but were on my doorstep not outside my car. They will also treat you like you're an idiot if you don't want your kids to be smarter. It's one of their sales tactics. As you can see my thread on it derailed in typical glp fashion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42134372 United States 09/11/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if I buy it, A lot of good people come on work programs, From all nationalities, I think it is being too over obsessive to treat people like criminals just because they are from Russia, I met a very nice girl from Russia on a work program and we have become very good friends, and another good friend of mine is on a work program and from Russia and he is male. I went door to door and did sales as well and we took the same information as he did about our customers. Do not become oppressive to other people because they are different, Be on watch always but do not treat people like trash because of a mindset, that is what Hitler did. I am a tin foil hat wearer, but this is unnecessary. this is the voice of reason. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21424718 United States 09/11/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if I buy it, A lot of good people come on work programs, From all nationalities, I think it is being too over obsessive to treat people like criminals just because they are from Russia, I met a very nice girl from Russia on a work program and we have become very good friends, and another good friend of mine is on a work program and from Russia and he is male. I went door to door and did sales as well and we took the same information as he did about our customers. Do not become oppressive to other people because they are different, Be on watch always but do not treat people like trash because of a mindset, that is what Hitler did. I am a tin foil hat wearer, but this is unnecessary. this is the voice of reason. Quoting: MrResearch no it's not! the video shows these people collecting children's names, ages, and whatever else they can muster, which is illegal to do without parent's consent. this is what pedophiles and murderers do, stalk and observe their victims. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21424718 United States 09/11/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if I buy it, A lot of good people come on work programs, From all nationalities, I think it is being too over obsessive to treat people like criminals just because they are from Russia, I met a very nice girl from Russia on a work program and we have become very good friends, and another good friend of mine is on a work program and from Russia and he is male. I went door to door and did sales as well and we took the same information as he did about our customers. Do not become oppressive to other people because they are different, Be on watch always but do not treat people like trash because of a mindset, that is what Hitler did. I am a tin foil hat wearer, but this is unnecessary. this is the voice of reason. Quoting: MrResearch no it's not! the video shows these people collecting children's names, ages, and whatever else they can muster, which is illegal to do without parent's consent. this is what pedophiles and murderers do, stalk and observe their victims. Oh, and I am a SWIII A/I&T -- CPS Investigator for NC, and work in tandem with LEO, as I do nothing but sex and physical abuse cases. If this was reported to me, in my county, these people would be in jail and court. why don't you go test your theory of data collection at a nearby school and let the teachers fix you up, by calling us and the sheriff dept. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42134372 United States 09/11/2013 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if I buy it, A lot of good people come on work programs, From all nationalities, I think it is being too over obsessive to treat people like criminals just because they are from Russia, I met a very nice girl from Russia on a work program and we have become very good friends, and another good friend of mine is on a work program and from Russia and he is male. I went door to door and did sales as well and we took the same information as he did about our customers. Do not become oppressive to other people because they are different, Be on watch always but do not treat people like trash because of a mindset, that is what Hitler did. I am a tin foil hat wearer, but this is unnecessary. this is the voice of reason. Quoting: MrResearch no it's not! the video shows these people collecting children's names, ages, and whatever else they can muster, which is illegal to do without parent's consent. this is what pedophiles and murderers do, stalk and observe their victims. Oh, and I am a SWIII A/I&T -- CPS Investigator for NC, and work in tandem with LEO, as I do nothing but sex and physical abuse cases. If this was reported to me, in my county, these people would be in jail and court. why don't you go test your theory of data collection at a nearby school and let the teachers fix you up, by calling us and the sheriff dept. All I can say Is I was a door to door Salesman like this years ago, and we used the same tactics, Write downs, grids ect, what is alarming though, I must admit, is taking the childrens information down, we only took down adult information for Sales purposes. |
nah User ID: 39685812 United States 09/11/2013 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are they saying they are here on student VISA's? Because a student VISA doesn't allow a person to work legally. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9106856 United States 09/11/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if I buy it, A lot of good people come on work programs, From all nationalities, I think it is being too over obsessive to treat people like criminals just because they are from Russia, I met a very nice girl from Russia on a work program and we have become very good friends, and another good friend of mine is on a work program and from Russia and he is male. I went door to door and did sales as well and we took the same information as he did about our customers. Do not become oppressive to other people because they are different, Be on watch always but do not treat people like trash because of a mindset, that is what Hitler did. I am a tin foil hat wearer, but this is unnecessary. this is the voice of reason. Quoting: MrResearch no it's not! the video shows these people collecting children's names, ages, and whatever else they can muster, which is illegal to do without parent's consent. this is what pedophiles and murderers do, stalk and observe their victims. Oh, and I am a SWIII A/I&T -- CPS Investigator for NC, and work in tandem with LEO, as I do nothing but sex and physical abuse cases. If this was reported to me, in my county, these people would be in jail and court. why don't you go test your theory of data collection at a nearby school and let the teachers fix you up, by calling us and the sheriff dept. All I can say Is I was a door to door Salesman like this years ago, and we used the same tactics, Write downs, grids ect, what is alarming though, I must admit, is taking the childrens information down, we only took down adult information for Sales purposes. who war your employer? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42134372 United States 09/11/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21424718 no it's not! the video shows these people collecting children's names, ages, and whatever else they can muster, which is illegal to do without parent's consent. this is what pedophiles and murderers do, stalk and observe their victims. Oh, and I am a SWIII A/I&T -- CPS Investigator for NC, and work in tandem with LEO, as I do nothing but sex and physical abuse cases. If this was reported to me, in my county, these people would be in jail and court. why don't you go test your theory of data collection at a nearby school and let the teachers fix you up, by calling us and the sheriff dept. All I can say Is I was a door to door Salesman like this years ago, and we used the same tactics, Write downs, grids ect, what is alarming though, I must admit, is taking the childrens information down, we only took down adult information for Sales purposes. who war your employer? Worked For A LawnCare Company, Door to Door Sales as well as Telephone sales, we would grid out the Lawns, estimate measurements, as well as the streets, lawn care based on average income to know which areas would be more likely to buy Lawn care for their lawns, which lawns were treatable etc. such as Home owners associations, gated communities, etc. The gathering Data, for book sales... to me seems a little odd. I would never give my information to a foreigner though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9106856 United States 09/11/2013 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21424718 Oh, and I am a SWIII A/I&T -- CPS Investigator for NC, and work in tandem with LEO, as I do nothing but sex and physical abuse cases. If this was reported to me, in my county, these people would be in jail and court. why don't you go test your theory of data collection at a nearby school and let the teachers fix you up, by calling us and the sheriff dept. All I can say Is I was a door to door Salesman like this years ago, and we used the same tactics, Write downs, grids ect, what is alarming though, I must admit, is taking the childrens information down, we only took down adult information for Sales purposes. who war your employer? Worked For A LawnCare Company, Door to Door Sales as well as Telephone sales, we would grid out the Lawns, estimate measurements, as well as the streets, lawn care based on average income to know which areas would be more likely to buy Lawn care for their lawns, which lawns were treatable etc. such as Home owners associations, gated communities, etc. The gathering Data, for book sales... to me seems a little odd. I would never give my information to a foreigner though. specific company so I can call them and verify what you say, as it is illegal. stop speaking generalities and grayness. I think you are lying and paid to, myself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46677850 United States 09/11/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is also a green card lottery in Ukraine. If they get it, they can so to another country, work under the table and take lots of funds back home when the visa expires. If on student visa, they are not allowed to work Then, there are those who say that they are neither of the above, but part of the Russian military, based here, looking for kids to reprogram when SHIF . Notice how they have no information on the person who is supposed to pay for the books. How come all the supposed books are the same for all age levels? You know, not one for 1-2 grade, another for 5-6 grade, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9106856 United States 09/11/2013 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is also a green card lottery in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46677850 If they get it, they can so to another country, work under the table and take lots of funds back home when the visa expires. If on student visa, they are not allowed to work Then, there are those who say that they are neither of the above, but part of the Russian military, based here, looking for kids to reprogram when SHIF . Notice how they have no information on the person who is supposed to pay for the books. How come all the supposed books are the same for all age levels? You know, not one for 1-2 grade, another for 5-6 grade, etc. video shows that the books never arrive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42134372 United States 09/11/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrResearch All I can say Is I was a door to door Salesman like this years ago, and we used the same tactics, Write downs, grids ect, what is alarming though, I must admit, is taking the childrens information down, we only took down adult information for Sales purposes. who war your employer? Worked For A LawnCare Company, Door to Door Sales as well as Telephone sales, we would grid out the Lawns, estimate measurements, as well as the streets, lawn care based on average income to know which areas would be more likely to buy Lawn care for their lawns, which lawns were treatable etc. such as Home owners associations, gated communities, etc. The gathering Data, for book sales... to me seems a little odd. I would never give my information to a foreigner though. specific company so I can call them and verify what you say, as it is illegal. stop speaking generalities and grayness. I think you are lying and paid to, myself. If you will look at my posts and threads, I am no Liar, I am a Truth Seeker. Call any major company that does door to door sales and they will tell you what I just told you. I worked For Scotts Lawncare, one of the biggest Lawncare services in the world. No it is not Illegal to grid out an area based on higher sales revenue. We did not ask for income specifics, you can google areas and find those specifics, we can grid out streets, just like google earth and google maps does, people are not restricted to do so on Public Land. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40679504 United States 09/11/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw a report on YouTube about the VERY LARGE number of Russians living in the occupied "Palestinian" territories; of course they're playing the role of "jews" so you can't call them what they really are because it makes it difficult for them to stay in character |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22967051 United States 09/11/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Worked For A LawnCare Company, Door to Door Sales as well as Telephone sales, we would grid out the Lawns, estimate measurements, as well as the streets, lawn care based on average income to know which areas would be more likely to buy Lawn care for their lawns, which lawns were treatable etc. such as Home owners associations, gated communities, etc. The gathering Data, for book sales... to me seems a little odd. I would never give my information to a foreigner though. specific company so I can call them and verify what you say, as it is illegal. stop speaking generalities and grayness. I think you are lying and paid to, myself. If you will look at my posts and threads, I am no Liar, I am a Truth Seeker. Call any major company that does door to door sales and they will tell you what I just told you. I worked For Scotts Lawncare, one of the biggest Lawncare services in the world. No it is not Illegal to grid out an area based on higher sales revenue. We did not ask for income specifics, you can google areas and find those specifics, we can grid out streets, just like google earth and google maps does, people are not restricted to do so on Public Land. i Scott's chat now. Here is their answer thus far: Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with 'Thea' Thea: Hello, how may I help you today? Susan: Hi, does your company do door to door sales, and collect people's names, ages, and children's names? I person is caliming to represent your company and claiming this is your comapny's practice. Thea: Are you referring To Scotts Lawn Service? Susan: Yes Thea: Scotts Lawn Service would only consult with the adults of the household asking if they would be interested in the the Scotts Lawn Service, but they would not ask about the ages of children or their names. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42134372 United States 09/11/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did I not just say that we did not take down Childrens info in one of my latter posts? It seems to me that you pick and choose what you want to hear. Real Truth Seekers and In Depth researchers, look at all the words in a phrase before they react and put words in other peoples mouths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22967051 United States 09/11/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrResearch Worked For A LawnCare Company, Door to Door Sales as well as Telephone sales, we would grid out the Lawns, estimate measurements, as well as the streets, lawn care based on average income to know which areas would be more likely to buy Lawn care for their lawns, which lawns were treatable etc. such as Home owners associations, gated communities, etc. The gathering Data, for book sales... to me seems a little odd. I would never give my information to a foreigner though. specific company so I can call them and verify what you say, as it is illegal. stop speaking generalities and grayness. I think you are lying and paid to, myself. If you will look at my posts and threads, I am no Liar, I am a Truth Seeker. Call any major company that does door to door sales and they will tell you what I just told you. I worked For Scotts Lawncare, one of the biggest Lawncare services in the world. No it is not Illegal to grid out an area based on higher sales revenue. We did not ask for income specifics, you can google areas and find those specifics, we can grid out streets, just like google earth and google maps does, people are not restricted to do so on Public Land. i Scott's chat now. Here is their answer thus far: Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with 'Thea' Thea: Hello, how may I help you today? Susan: Hi, does your company do door to door sales, and collect people's names, ages, and children's names? I person is caliming to represent your company and claiming this is your comapny's practice. Thea: Are you referring To Scotts Lawn Service? Susan: Yes Thea: Scotts Lawn Service would only consult with the adults of the household asking if they would be interested in the the Scotts Lawn Service, but they would not ask about the ages of children or their names. Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with 'Thea' Thea: Hello, how may I help you today? Susan: Hi, does your company do door to door sales, and collect people's names, ages, and children's names? I person is caliming to represent your company and claiming this is your comapny's practice. Thea: Are you referring To Scotts Lawn Service? Susan: Yes Thea: Scotts Lawn Service would only consult with the adults of the household asking if they would be interested in the the Scotts Lawn Service, but they would not ask about the ages of children or their names. Thea: Is there anything else I can help you with? Susan: so no children's names or ages are taken? Thea: No. Susan: thank you Thea: You are welcome. Thea: Have a good day! [link to www.scotts.com] contact and live chat at bottom of link |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22967051 United States 09/11/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did I not just say that we did not take down Childrens info in one of my latter posts? It seems to me that you pick and choose what you want to hear. Real Truth Seekers and In Depth researchers, look at all the words in a phrase before they react and put words in other peoples mouths. Quoting: MrResearch then learn reading comprehension as this is what this thread pertains to, as the video atop the page clearly shows. bye bye now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42134372 United States 09/11/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9106856 specific company so I can call them and verify what you say, as it is illegal. stop speaking generalities and grayness. I think you are lying and paid to, myself. If you will look at my posts and threads, I am no Liar, I am a Truth Seeker. Call any major company that does door to door sales and they will tell you what I just told you. I worked For Scotts Lawncare, one of the biggest Lawncare services in the world. No it is not Illegal to grid out an area based on higher sales revenue. We did not ask for income specifics, you can google areas and find those specifics, we can grid out streets, just like google earth and google maps does, people are not restricted to do so on Public Land. i Scott's chat now. Here is their answer thus far: Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with 'Thea' Thea: Hello, how may I help you today? Susan: Hi, does your company do door to door sales, and collect people's names, ages, and children's names? I person is caliming to represent your company and claiming this is your comapny's practice. Thea: Are you referring To Scotts Lawn Service? Susan: Yes Thea: Scotts Lawn Service would only consult with the adults of the household asking if they would be interested in the the Scotts Lawn Service, but they would not ask about the ages of children or their names. Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with 'Thea' Thea: Hello, how may I help you today? Susan: Hi, does your company do door to door sales, and collect people's names, ages, and children's names? I person is caliming to represent your company and claiming this is your comapny's practice. Thea: Are you referring To Scotts Lawn Service? Susan: Yes Thea: Scotts Lawn Service would only consult with the adults of the household asking if they would be interested in the the Scotts Lawn Service, but they would not ask about the ages of children or their names. Thea: Is there anything else I can help you with? Susan: so no children's names or ages are taken? Thea: No. Susan: thank you Thea: You are welcome. Thea: Have a good day! [link to www.scotts.com] contact and live chat at bottom of link I said we did not collect Childrens names etc, in my posts above, you said that I said that. Do not misrepresent my words. We took down information regarding interest, Our planned routes were based on sales response, and we marked these areas as high information based on the info we got back from people as well as the landscape and grids. I have no need to lie, but it seems like you misrepresent. I also do not claim to represent that company, you said I said that....Sigh |