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The Bayou Corne Sinkhole, Part II: What Really Happened (and today's flyover)

 
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The Bayou Corne Sinkhole, Part II: What Really Happened (and today's flyover)
First things first -


Today's fly over posted 2 hours ago -




For comparison, here is the fly over from August 2012 -




The article -
[link to www.redstate.com]

"About a year ago, bubbles of unknown origin were reported in the Bayou Corne area. At first, a pipeline leak was expected, but by August a sinkhole formed. About 350 residents of the nearby community of Bayou Corne were evacuated. What started as a few bubbles eventually grew to an unstable 24 acre pond that, as we saw in Part I, continues to suck in land and cypress trees. The Google Earth images below compare “before” and “after”.
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Yep, it's alot larger than a year ago... as is my DOOM boner!
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Yep, it's alot larger than a year ago... as is my DOOM boner!
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You must have an epic doom boner by now if this sinkhole is your yardstick.

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The Louisiana sinkhole is now at about 24 acres, which is about eight times more than a year ago.

Okay, so let's do some simple math, if this continues increasing at this rate:

August 2014: 192 acres
August 2015: 1,536 acres

Okay, now let's convert the following years to square miles. (640 acres = 1 square mile)

August 2016: 2.4 square miles
August 2017: 19 square miles
August 2018: 154 square miles
August 2019: 1,228 square miles
August 2020: 9,830 square miles
August 2021: 78,643 square miles
August 2022: 629,145 square miles
August 2023: 5,033,164 square miles

(Note: Numbers after 2016 have been rounded.)

Now, what does this mean? Well . . .

78,643 square miles is bigger than Nebraska.
629,145 square miles is bigger than Alaska's land area
5,033,164 square miles is about two-and-a-half times as big as Mexico.

Now, obviously, Louisiana is a coastal state, meaning that the figures above WON'T be correct as to actual land loss. Plus, I don't know if the sinkhole WILL continue to grow at an eightfold rate per year.

But can anyone smarter than I explain what WOULD be the possible outcome if this situation is allowed to continue unchecked? How much land CAN be lost before it must stop growing? (In other words, can anyone tell me the worst possible scenario?) And, please, if I am being "stupid" about this, please tell me so!!

(And, btw, according to DESMOG.blog, "Sonny Cranch, the PR spokesman for Texas Brine, says what is happening in Bayou Corne is unprecedented. So far that is the only fact all parties involved have been able to agree upon."
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The Louisiana sinkhole is now at about 24 acres, which is about eight times more than a year ago.

Okay, so let's do some simple math, if this continues increasing at this rate:

August 2014: 192 acres
August 2015: 1,536 acres

Okay, now let's convert the following years to square miles. (640 acres = 1 square mile)

August 2016: 2.4 square miles
August 2017: 19 square miles
August 2018: 154 square miles
August 2019: 1,228 square miles
August 2020: 9,830 square miles
August 2021: 78,643 square miles
August 2022: 629,145 square miles
August 2023: 5,033,164 square miles

(Note: Numbers after 2016 have been rounded.)

Now, what does this mean? Well . . .

78,643 square miles is bigger than Nebraska.
629,145 square miles is bigger than Alaska's land area
5,033,164 square miles is about two-and-a-half times as big as Mexico.

Now, obviously, Louisiana is a coastal state, meaning that the figures above WON'T be correct as to actual land loss. Plus, I don't know if the sinkhole WILL continue to grow at an eightfold rate per year.

But can anyone smarter than I explain what WOULD be the possible outcome if this situation is allowed to continue unchecked? How much land CAN be lost before it must stop growing? (In other words, can anyone tell me the worst possible scenario?) And, please, if I am being "stupid" about this, please tell me so!!

(And, btw, according to DESMOG.blog, "Sonny Cranch, the PR spokesman for Texas Brine, says what is happening in Bayou Corne is unprecedented. So far that is the only fact all parties involved have been able to agree upon."
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Thank you for that post.

I keep waiting for the final 'death nail' breach where enough water saturates the entire area and washes the entire mess into the G0M. Let's hope I'm very wrong.

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Here's a link to Part 1 of the article for anyone interested -

[link to stevemaley.com]

"Bayou Corne is the biggest ongoing industrial disaster in the United States you haven’t heard of."
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wont the containment berms contain this???


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wont the containment berms contain this???


rofl
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Re: The Bayou Corne Sinkhole, Part II: What Really Happened (and today's flyover)
Was totally attacked last night on their Fakebook page, should have no better. Was shocked though how many people think this situation is just gonna correct itself. The sinkhole is only gonna get as big as the cavern itself, blah, blah, blah. Those people are eating it up. So, I decided not to go back, I will stick to getting info. from my "BS" sites as that guy that works for Big Oil likes to call everything that isn't his opinion. Thanks for keeping us informed.hf
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The Louisiana sinkhole is now at about 24 acres, which is about eight times more than a year ago.

Okay, so let's do some simple math, if this continues increasing at this rate:

August 2014: 192 acres
August 2015: 1,536 acres

Okay, now let's convert the following years to square miles. (640 acres = 1 square mile)

August 2016: 2.4 square miles
August 2017: 19 square miles
August 2018: 154 square miles
August 2019: 1,228 square miles
August 2020: 9,830 square miles
August 2021: 78,643 square miles
August 2022: 629,145 square miles
August 2023: 5,033,164 square miles

(Note: Numbers after 2016 have been rounded.)

Now, what does this mean? Well . . .

78,643 square miles is bigger than Nebraska.
629,145 square miles is bigger than Alaska's land area
5,033,164 square miles is about two-and-a-half times as big as Mexico.

Now, obviously, Louisiana is a coastal state, meaning that the figures above WON'T be correct as to actual land loss. Plus, I don't know if the sinkhole WILL continue to grow at an eightfold rate per year.

But can anyone smarter than I explain what WOULD be the possible outcome if this situation is allowed to continue unchecked? How much land CAN be lost before it must stop growing? (In other words, can anyone tell me the worst possible scenario?) And, please, if I am being "stupid" about this, please tell me so!!

(And, btw, according to DESMOG.blog, "Sonny Cranch, the PR spokesman for Texas Brine, says what is happening in Bayou Corne is unprecedented. So far that is the only fact all parties involved have been able to agree upon."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44077168


It's funny, I was discussing this with my mother this past weekend. Started in August 2012, then around March 2013 the sinkhole really started to take off in the growth department. Had the same thought, just wanted to share. It's gonna be the biggest lake ever if it's not part of the ocean.
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Re: The Bayou Corne Sinkhole, Part II: What Really Happened (and today's flyover)
Was totally attacked last night on their Fakebook page, should have no better. Was shocked though how many people think this situation is just gonna correct itself. The sinkhole is only gonna get as big as the cavern itself, blah, blah, blah. Those people are eating it up. So, I decided not to go back, I will stick to getting info. from my "BS" sites as that guy that works for Big Oil likes to call everything that isn't his opinion. Thanks for keeping us informed.hf
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Wonder why anyone would think that? It's pretty obvious that it is going the complete opposite direction from "correcting itself".
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Was totally attacked last night on their Fakebook page, should have no better. Was shocked though how many people think this situation is just gonna correct itself. The sinkhole is only gonna get as big as the cavern itself, blah, blah, blah. Those people are eating it up. So, I decided not to go back, I will stick to getting info. from my "BS" sites as that guy that works for Big Oil likes to call everything that isn't his opinion. Thanks for keeping us informed.hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34263351


Wonder why anyone would think that? It's pretty obvious that it is going the complete opposite direction from "correcting itself".
 Quoting: amachiavellian


Was shocked, thought it would be a good way to get the word out to my friends about the seriousness of it all. Made one comment that went against the grain and they all pounced. They got one guy on there they all follow, Zombies!!!!! I always get my info. from you guys anyways so no love lost! Good job and thanks.
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wont the containment berms contain this???


rofl
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:1wall:
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Love it!
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That lake is going to need a name. Sinkhole lake just sounds bad. How about bottomless pit lake?
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That lake is going to need a name. Sinkhole lake just sounds bad. How about bottomless pit lake?
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BP Lake - "go ahead and swim, its safe - we promise"
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Just another stinking swamp in the south land.
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SORRY, THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE YEARS LISTED WHEN I FIRST POSTED THIS. THE CORRECTIONS ARE IN BOLD:

The Louisiana sinkhole is now at about 24 acres, which is about eight times more than a year ago.

Okay, so let's do some simple math, if this continues increasing at this rate:

August 2014: 192 acres
August 2015: 1,536 acres (2.4 square miles)

Okay, now let's convert the following years to square miles. (640 acres = 1 square mile)

August 2016: 19 square miles
August 2017: 154 square miles
August 2018: 1,229 square miles
August 2019: 9,830 square miles
August 2020: 78,643 square miles
August 2021: 629,145 square miles
August 2022: 5,033,164 square miles


(Note: Numbers after 2015 have been rounded.)

Now, what does this mean? Well . . .

78,643 square miles is bigger than Nebraska.
629,145 square miles is bigger than Alaska's land area
5,033,164 square miles is about two-and-a-half times as big as Mexico.

Now, obviously, Louisiana is a coastal state, meaning that the figures above WON'T be correct as to actual land loss. Plus, I don't know if the sinkhole WILL continue to grow at an eightfold rate per year.

But can anyone smarter than I explain what WOULD be the possible outcome if this situation is allowed to continue unchecked? How much land CAN be lost before it must stop growing? (In other words, can anyone tell me the worst possible scenario?) And, please, if I am being "stupid" about this, please tell me so!!

(And, btw, according to DESMOG.blog, "Sonny Cranch, the PR spokesman for Texas Brine, says what is happening in Bayou Corne is unprecedented. So far that is the only fact all parties involved have been able to agree upon."
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That lake is going to need a name. Sinkhole lake just sounds bad. How about bottomless pit lake?
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BP Lake - "go ahead and swim, its safe - we promise"
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Good one, are there any fish in that lake? Has the wild life been tested?
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How many miles is it from the ocean?
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That lake is going to need a name. Sinkhole lake just sounds bad. How about bottomless pit lake?
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BP Lake - "go ahead and swim, its safe - we promise"
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Good one! I hate those commericals, what a joke.
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How many miles is it from the ocean?
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I actually don't know the exact distance. It isn't hundreds of miles.

Close enough for this to happen though. It's been posted before, but so damn eerie it's worth a re-post.




Equally creepy -


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... or more appropriately ...

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How many miles is it from the ocean?
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I guess it is about 70 miles to the Gulf of Mexico.
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Throw some lard asses in there.

That should fix it.
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How many miles is it from the ocean?
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I guess it is about 70 miles to the Gulf of Mexico.
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That's not all that far at all.
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the depth of that thing is what staggers me, and its getting deeper
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the depth of that thing is what staggers me, and its getting deeper
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Yep. There's a video floating around where they extend 800' of drop line and run out before they hit bottom. I never found out if that video was legit or just some YouTube "showmanship". And the actual drop line length seemed to be in question.

Here it is though -


Here's something I think could be a concern the larger and deeper this thing goes. Surface subsidence and liquefaction.

This is Japan after the 2011 earthquake, not exactly a sinkhole - but you get the basic idea -


edit: fixed embedding.

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How many miles is it from the ocean?
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I guess it is about 70 miles to the Gulf of Mexico.
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More like 40 miles - but only about 5 miles from the mississippi river.
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OK maybe will will have to come up with a name for a new sea, not a new lake?
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latest flyover.... OMG 1111






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